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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:39:03 No.86498637

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I tried /a/, I really tried, but I couldn't even make it past episode 15.

The flat characters, the sterile dialogue, the poorly handled drama, the dated animation, the...everything. I just don't understand how anyone could find it entertaining.

When you compare it to works that occupy the same genre space such as War and Peace, Taiko, A Song of Ice and Fire, etc, it's just so fucking inferior that I just can't bear to watch it. If you're looking for epic war/political drama there are so many better things out there to watch and read. To each his own I guess, but if something forces you to endure hours of tedium before you can extract even a little enjoyment from watching it, then as far as I'm concerned it's shit. Am I missing something?


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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:40:36 No.86498691
Gay Germans in Space

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:41:17 No.86498725
You are missing something called taste if you think A Song of Ice and Fire is better.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:42:41 No.86498779
>>86498637
>there are so many better things out there to watch and read
I'm sure you're just about to list them

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:43:07 No.86498798
>I watched 1/10th of a series and I knew it was shit

Do you also only watch the first 10 minutes of a movie before making a judgment call?

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:44:33 No.86498857
>>86498637
Drop it. It becomes worse.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:44:59 No.86498876
>flat characters
Gay Lactating Heroes is one of the few anime that actually has round characters. Even minor characters get development and screen time. Each character has his own desires and motivations and reasons for doing what he does, and many of them change and evolve over the course of the show.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:45:55 No.86498907
Watching the sixth episode and I'm liking it. Got done catching up with Gunka no Baltzar and got to watching Game of Thrones only to catch up at the two week delay I'm thinking "fuck, I need more!"

It's very slow paced but at the same time I feel it to be appropriate since they are in space and all. And that obvious spoiler that Reinhard will be Kaiser makes me curious on how he gets there.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:46:22 No.86498932
Don't worry anon, it was all a big circle jerk formed from people like this >>86498725

They all just want to believe that they have good taste for liking the legend of lactating homos.

If you want a SPACE anime just watch moretsu pirates and crest of the stars.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:47:59 No.86499003
>>86498691
This.
That is the reason why the majority of fans are female. When you see a show which have females having the majority of fandom, you can be sure that it sucks.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:48:33 No.86499024
tell me more about this "Taiko"
looking for it on google and the usual databases and all I'm getting is drums.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:48:37 No.86499028
Newfags these days...

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:49:30 No.86499059
>>86499003
>the majority of fans are female
[citation needed]

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:50:31 No.86499102

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>Daytime /a/

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:50:31 No.86499103

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>>86498637
>2deep5you
>Thinking A Song of Ice and Fire is any better

LOGH ain't the greatest thing but ASOIF ain't great either.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:50:39 No.86499106
>The flat characters, the sterile dialogue, the poorly handled drama, the dated animation, the...everything. I
Its almost amazing how you pinpointed that all from just 15 episodes, you should be a critic or someth...oh wait I'm being le troled

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:50:47 No.86499114
>>86499059
Majority of /a/ loves it.
/a/ is for little girls onry.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:50:59 No.86499123
>>86499003
>women
>watching LoGH

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:51:43 No.86499156
>>86499059
Pretty sure it's pretty obvious.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:52:45 No.86499200

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>>86499024
It's a boat.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:53:31 No.86499230
>>86499156
It isn't, unless you're talking about the golden wings OVA.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:53:43 No.86499241
>>86498637
>When you compare it to works that occupy the same genre space such as War and Peace
Well yeah, but I think thats unfair to...
>A Song of Ice and Fire
Nevermind, you are just a faggot with shit taste.
>urobutcher kills everyone off
>People hate him for it.
>Martin is killing everyone off, in a generic fantasy world.
>10/10

Well its either that, or the shitty fanfic like sex scenes.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:53:57 No.86499252
OP I don't blame you in the slightest for disliking it.

I personally enjoy it because enjoy other works such as Romance of the Three Kingdoms and other war dramas. It's a learned taste that not everybody has.

But saying LoGH is the best anime ever is like saying Dynasty Warriors is the best video game ever, that is just retarded.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:55:43 No.86499322
>>86498876
>Even minor characters get development and screen time
Utena did that much better

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:56:48 No.86499363
>>86498798
>knew it was shit
I am me, and yes, I know what I experienced while watching it, i.e., boredom. 15 episodes is about 4 1/2 hours. When you add in a movie on top of that, you're looking at a roughly six hour time investment where most of the time you're experiencing boredom and nothing much else. Giving up 10 minutes into a movie is not the same thing.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:56:49 No.86499365
>>86499241
>everyone hates urobutcher
>everyone loves grrm
Your post makes so little sense.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:57:25 No.86499384
>>86499059
Just look at tumblr, /m/ and other forum sites.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:57:43 No.86499393
>>86499322
Utena didn't have a very large cast of characters.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:58:19 No.86499419
>>86499393
nor 100 episodes

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:58:29 No.86499425
>>86499252
LOGH is pretty badly written, though. First season had too many filler episodes, plenty of battles ended thanks to deus ex machina, some plot points felt unfinished, rushed.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:59:47 No.86499470
>>86499241
>>urobutcher kills everyone off
>>People hate him for it.

What?

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:59:48 No.86499471
>>86499252
So whats the best anime ever, dear patrician?

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 15:59:51 No.86499472
>The flat characters
Reported
> the sterile dialogue
Lrn2read
>the poorly handled drama
Pay attention
>the dated animation
Deal with it faggot

You haven't even experienced 10% of the series yet.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:00:41 No.86499504
>>86498725
Everything about asoiaf is much better in my opinion: dialogue, plot, world, characters, drama and intrigue. the writing in lotgh is, dare I say, rather plebeian in comparison.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:02:05 No.86499559
>>86499419
39 is still quite a lot too.
Even if you take that into account LoGH handles way more characters.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:02:18 No.86499568
>>86499365

Game of Thrones becoming a TV series really created a cancerous fanbase. They assume that GoT is actually anything above average, and aren't ready for a decrease in quality after a Storm of Swords. grrm also has two books left to fuck up.

>>86499425

>LoGH
>filler

You don't know what filler means.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:02:58 No.86499592
>>86499471
Boku no Pico, obviously.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:04:46 No.86499669
>>86499568
>You don't know what filler means.
I know, and yes, LOGH has filler-like episodes.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:05:03 No.86499682
>>86499592
>le maymay cop-out
Thanks for playing

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:06:03 No.86499719
>>86499669

Examples please.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:06:34 No.86499741
>>86499568
It's above average fantasy that's fun to read. That's really it. It's not a revolutionary piece of literature that will be read for ages to come, it's just fun.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:06:43 No.86499746
>>86499682
I never said I was a patrician anyway.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:06:49 No.86499750
>>86499024
a novel by Eiji Yoshikawa, the guy who wrote the novel Musashi which the manga Vagabond is based on. It's historical fiction set in the late Sengoku period and centers around the life Toyotomi Hideyoshi, along with Oda Nobunaga and to a lesser extent Ieyasu Tokugawa, the three great unifiers of Japan. It's good stuff

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:06:50 No.86499752
>>86499682
>hurr tell me your favorite anniemay so I can call it shit

Not even the guy you were talking to but I believe you lost this before he did.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:07:40 No.86499776
>>86498637

Get a load of this faggot. Why don't you hang a sign around your neck proclaiming your bad taste while you're at it?

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:08:23 No.86499806
>>86499669
Every episode serves a purpose, whether it be developing a character, progressing the plot, or giving historical information for the viewer.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:11:08 No.86499909
>>86499750
of course you know the underlying difference between LoGH and the series OP claimed higher than it.

they are all historical works well Song of Fire and Ice is a fantasy but takes from historical elements like all Tolkien fantasies

maybe you don't like Sci-fi?

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:11:12 No.86499912
>>86498637
>A Song of Ice and Fire
Stopped reading there.

You're clearly a peasant with no taste.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:12:54 No.86499980

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I think the first season is the worst, but i doubt if you don't like it so far your opinion will change. I liked the way it was presented and think it set out to do what it wanted well.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:12:57 No.86499982
even if you think it has sophisticated content and subject matter, if it comes entirely at the expense of actually being entertaining, it's still shit.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:14:01 No.86500022
>>86499669
A filler is a (usually non-canon) episode made when a show caught up with the source material.

There are episodes in LOGH which happen between big events but they usually serve the purpose of fleshing out the characters and the universe and to set the stage for the next big events.

The word "filler" doesn't fit.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:14:12 No.86500029
>>86499719
"The Klopstock Incident", "The Actress Exits".

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:14:32 No.86500044
>>86499982
I agree, but people find different things entertaining. I enjoyed the series and don't really consider it 'sophisticated' anyway.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:16:21 No.86500124
>>86500029

>showing two examples of the decay of the nobility in the Empire
>filler

Dude he beat you so hard over the head with it, how can you not get it?

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:16:39 No.86500134
>>86499912
you are the worst kind of human. the kind that shits on good things that happen to be popular just to make themselves feel superior to others.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:17:14 No.86500162
>>86500124
Same shit was done in almost every other episode.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:17:44 No.86500181
>>86499669
Not really. I mean the closest thing I can think of would be the history lessons and the julian episodes. But even then they are part of the main storyline. But yeah holy shit julian episodes are boring.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:17:50 No.86500184
>>86500029
Those are not filler. It's meant to showcase the internal political conflict of the Empire. Why would you think an attempted assassination of the Kaiser is filler?

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:18:08 No.86500195
Please stop, I don't want to know that I have the same taste in anime as someone who puts A Song of Ice and Fire on the same level as Tolstoy.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:18:11 No.86500196
>>86500134
That's what OP is doing.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:19:17 No.86500230
>>86500134
>implying this thread isn't exactly that

I'm not either him or OP and like both but this is a pot calling the kettle black in its most obvious case.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:20:24 No.86500280

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But that's where it starts getting really good.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:20:30 No.86500281
>>86500134
>implying this isn't what this thread is about
Get the fuck out retard.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:20:33 No.86500283

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>A song of ice and fire
>good
You've got to be shitting me.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:21:30 No.86500328
>>86499568
>Game of Thrones becoming a TV series really created a cancerous fanbase.

It has always had a cancerous fanbase. I remember back when I first read, sometime around 2000, they were insufferable then too. They kept bragging about how their series wasn't like WoT (that was their big rival back then), because their author wasn't dragging the series out, and didn't take forever between books.

Dohohoho.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:21:36 No.86500331
>LOGH
Very dry dialogues. The whole series is pretty dull.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:21:44 No.86500338
>>86500195
OP hasn't actually read Tolstoy, he just wanted to drop the name because he saw it mentioned in a thread before.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:23:02 No.86500381
>>86500195
to be fair there will be people who fuck with War and Peace the same as LoGH and Game of Thrones pretty sure /lit/ has already done so more than enough times

there's no such thing as "sacred" on 4chan, or at least not on /a/ except maybe Yotsuba's purity

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:23:21 No.86500395
>>86500181
I really enjoyed the 'history lessons' and generally Julian's episodes. I don't really think you can call the backstory of the series in anyway filler either. The series presented itself a lot like a fictional history, and the history lessons provided context to current events

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:23:55 No.86500410

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>>86500338
I think you're onto something there.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:24:57 No.86500450
>>86500381
as it should

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:25:49 No.86500484
>>86498637
You think Reinhard is a Char?

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:26:22 No.86500497
>>86500331
I disagree about this. LOGH has good dialogues. The issue is that it's a more straight to the point series rather than one which hides what it tries to say in flowery allegories. It's more a show in the spirit of Clausewitz, who wrote about warfare with the empirical mind of a 19th century European scholar.
It wouldn't appeal to people who seek to lose themselves in pretty pictures and figures of speech. The show clearly says what it thinks and that's what makes it both refreshing and unique in the context of anime, where you usually have all kinds of "deep" symbolism to express something very mundane.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:26:31 No.86500503
>>86498637
I bet you didn't even watch the first movie.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:26:57 No.86500520
>>86500381
I don't mind people criticizing or disliking classics (they're so varied nobody could possibly like them all), I just object to this vast overrating of GRRM. This anon pretty much nailed it:
>>86499741

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:28:44 No.86500580
This turned from a thread insulting LoGH to a thread insulting Song of Fire and Ice.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:29:17 No.86500601
>>86500395
I enjoyed them as well. Also, historiography is the central theme of the show, probably best embodied in Yang Wenli, who wanted to be a historian who records history but finds himself in the unlucky position of having to write it first hand.
The idea that LOGH had one dimensional characters is utter nonsense, and it's pretty obvious that OP either hasn't been paying attention or that he's attempting to troll /a/.
Given the quality of his post, it's more likely to be the latter of course.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:29:37 No.86500613
>>86500580
Thread saved! Nice work /a/.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:30:34 No.86500653
>>86500613
bah

/tv/ could do better.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:31:27 No.86500688
>>86500653
/tv/ would have turned this thread into a discussion of how they want to fuck Bran.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:32:12 No.86500713
>>86500497
No, film is a completely different medium than books. LOGH is a horrible anime. It feels exactly like a book.
Show, not tell, this is the difference between literature and film.
Facian expressions, acting and so on are very, very bland in LOGH. The whole anime is basically talking heads and pretty lasers in space. It doesn't help that the battles aren't especially interesting or good.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:32:25 No.86500721
>>86498637
>When you compare it to works that occupy the same genre space such as War and Peace

>actually comparing one of the great works of classical literature to a fucking anime
>mfw your argument is "ITS NOT TOLSTOY THEREFORE SHIT"

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:32:30 No.86500726
>>86500196
>>86500230
>>86500281
I wouldn't say lotgh is hugely popular by many standards, so I don't think I'm expressing my dislike for it just to appear cool. The difference is, I tried to watch and enjoy it in earnest, but didn't and have tried to explain why in a relatively non-incendiary way. Yet when I mention that I think asoiaf a good series (that's good, not Shakespearean) I get endless shallow replies all of which are along the lines of "LOLASOIAF PLEB SHIT TASTE LOLLOL".

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:33:27 No.86500755
>>86499750

this weaboo on a whole other level, take note gents.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:34:05 No.86500785
>>86500726
>I wouldn't say lotgh is hugely popular by many standards

you'd be wrong though

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:34:41 No.86500807
>>86500726
>so I don't think I'm expressing my dislike for it just to appear cool

nobody thinks that, don't worry you aren't in danger of looking cool anytime soon

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:34:51 No.86500816
>>86500688
>watch game of thrones
>go to /tv/ to discuss it
>happens to be a general
>go to general
>HEY /tv/ WHAT HAPPENS IF GoT WAS AN ANIME

must've came at a bad time
also it seemed they preferred Rob

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:34:57 No.86500819
If you don't like it after episode 12 you should just drop it

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:35:08 No.86500830
>>86500726
It's because you're objectively wrong.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:35:19 No.86500841
>>86500726
LoGH is one of the highest rated anime ever and you think that it isn't popular?

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:35:59 No.86500862
>>86498637
>hours of tedium

8deep9you

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:36:35 No.86500890
>>86500283
>cherrypicking

Also, ASOIAF is a filthy and grim universe, of course he's going to be vulgar and use words like cunt.

I haven't even read ASOIAF.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:36:47 No.86500898
>>86500726
You opened up the thread showing you were fully aware a good portion of /a/ had positive regard towards it. So saying that you didn't think LoGH was hugely popular is an outright lie.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:37:59 No.86500939
>>86500195
You must be slightly stupid. I put them both above lotgh, but not on the same level as each other. If I say Aliens and Alien are better than Alien Resurrection, that doesn't mean I think Alien and Aliens are on equal standing. Understand?

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:38:22 No.86500961
>>86500816
>HEY /tv/ WHAT HAPPENS IF GoT WAS AN ANIME

It would be better.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:38:24 No.86500963
>>86500755
Nignog please, there's at least 1 anime based on the sengoku period almost every season.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:38:33 No.86500973

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>>86500713
>implying this scene is bland

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:38:51 No.86500987
>>86500713
>LOGH is a horrible anime. It feels exactly like a book.
Because reading is for faggots, amirite?

>Show, not tell, this is the difference between literature and film.
Ideological nonsense. There is no such rule.

>Facian expressions, acting and so on are very, very bland in LOGH.
Facial expressions in a 110 episodes anime that started in the 80s are lacking? Stop the presses.

>acting and so on are very, very bland in LOGH.
Are you out of your mind? Reinhard is one of Horikawa Ryo's best roles, Norio Wakamoto was so brilliant as Reuental that people stopped giving him serious roles because he can't possibly surpass his performance there and he nowadays only has to play himself. Toriyama Kei was brilliant as Yang.

About the former two issues regarding that retarded ideology that film isn't supposed to use words and that the animation in an old show isn't top notch I can even understand your point of view - but to criticise the acting is utter retardation and you should be rightfully ashamed of it.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:39:19 No.86501004
>>86500283
Good writing means nothing if the story is bad, and The Great Gatsby is a boring story.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:40:48 No.86501076
>>86500195

Lets be honest here, War and Peace was horribly horribly boring. Yes its a extremely important work, but everyone I talk to has agreed with me that it is the most boring thing they have ever read.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:40:57 No.86501078

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>not realizing that LoGH is basically an animated history book and should be enjoyed as such

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:41:53 No.86501117
>>86501076
>War and Peace was horribly horribly boring.
>but everyone I talk to has agreed with me that it is the most boring thing they have ever read.

good lord do you hold pleb conventions with your friends or something

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:41:52 No.86501119
>>86500726
>I wouldn't say lotgh is hugely popular by many standards
It is though. It was incredibly iconic in Japan, being referenced often.

In the west it wasn't that well known since nobody bothered translating it until a few years ago, but since then it has gotten quite the reputation and it's rightfully considered one of the greatest shows ever made.

And even if it's not to your liking because you're not into this kind of entertainment you should still have the mind to realise that it does remarkably well what it attempts to do and that it is fairly unique - there simply isn't much that is alike when it comes to anime.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:43:17 No.86501179
>>86501076
People in the XIXth century had different tastes. By then, War and Peace was hugely popular, like ASOIAF nowadays, but things change. I wouldn't be surprised if, 200 years from now, ASOIAF is held as a classic and people find it boring.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:44:00 No.86501207

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>mfw somebody thinks Wheel of Time: Edgy Edition is a good series

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:44:32 No.86501233
>>86500987
>Because reading is for faggots, amirite?
Because books are for reading, films are for watching.
>Ideological nonsense. There is no such rule.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Show,_don%27t_tell
It's even more important in visual media.
>Facial expressions in a 110 episodes anime that started in the 80s are lacking? Stop the presses.
Not everything needs an anime.
>Are you out of your mind?
Most characters act like the same character. Same manner of speaking, similar boring delivery.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:45:07 No.86501246
>>86501078
Then it's a very bad history book.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:45:22 No.86501255

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>>86501179

>putting War and Peace and ASOIAF on the same level

I'm the guy who found it boring, but please don't demean the work.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:45:24 No.86501257
>>86501179
>I wouldn't be surprised if, 200 years from now, ASOIAF is held as a classic and people find it boring.

How horrifying

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:46:03 No.86501287
>>86501246
Why?

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:46:18 No.86501298
>>86501233
>Because books are for reading, films are for watching.
>mfw he doesn't even meta

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:48:21 No.86501379
>>86501287
Because it's badly written.
>Earth Cult
>laughable tactics
>incredibly stupid characters
>very simplistic

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:49:07 No.86501413
>>86501255
>"muh classics"

I'm just putting things in a context. People didn't think of War and Peace as a untouchable classic by then, it was just a book people read for fun, it was even serialized in a magazine. This concept of this (and other books from the same time) as great classics for patricians only is a modern invention that was constructed over time.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:49:24 No.86501422
>>86501379
Just like real history.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:49:27 No.86501425
>>86501379
Yes and?

Are you implying life isn't as simplistic?

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:50:27 No.86501462
>>86500497
Never really tought of it this way, but I find the comparison you make between LOGH and Clausewitz to be very fitting.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:50:58 No.86501488
>>86501233
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Show,_don%27t_tell
>It's even more important in visual media.
You think linking me to a wikipedia article where some people suggest that film should do a certain thing rather than another is going to prove that this isn't just ideological nonsense? The idea that film isn't supposed to make use of dialogue but that it's supposed to use imagery is a huge load of crap. In the days of theatre dialogue would be everything.

>Most characters act like the same character. Same manner of speaking, similar boring delivery.
You clearly haven't watched the show if you think Reinhard, Yang or Reuental were any alike - not to mention plenty of other characters.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:51:47 No.86501518

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>>86501379
>laughable tactics
Pussy space german detected.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:51:48 No.86501519
>>86501425
It's not. Read history books.
>>86501422
Hardly.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:52:02 No.86501527
>>86498637
im still at episode 8 OP.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:52:53 No.86501560
>>86501519
You are saying real history doesn't have dumb generals who make stupid tactical decisions?

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:53:43 No.86501594
>>86501488
I'm talking about their manner of speaking. It's very similar. It's the same boring, emotionless delivery every time.
I watched all episodes. First two season were okay.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:53:54 No.86501605
>>86501518
>Yang
>died like a bitch
>Reinhardt
>got killed by the plot on the peak of his life

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:53:55 No.86501606
>>86500713
Except Japan is loves to do the tell more and narrate rather than show.
It's a different mentality than what we have in the west.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:54:15 No.86501621

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>>86501379
What Earth Cult? That is most certainly only a myth! Now would you like to buy some goods from Phezzan go-, i mean sir.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:54:19 No.86501627
>>86501560
Not that stupid.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:55:04 No.86501655
>>86501379
People who whine about the depiction of warfare in LOGH are in 9 out of 10 cases complete idiots who probably think line infantry tactics were stupid as well.

LOGH doesn't deliver a lot of technobabble to justify certain things. The show simply asserts that a certain manner of fighting is efficient and rolls with it.

The viewer is in no position to assess the effectiveness of the tactics applied. To call them "retarded" would imply that the viewer has an understanding of what is involved, but such a thing is not given. It is by no means more retarded than what you see in Star Trek, Star Wars or Gundam.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:55:07 No.86501658
>>86501606
Except that's wrong. Watch more Japanese films. Anime isn't the only thing Japan produces.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:55:11 No.86501664
>>86501519

>stupid people in positions of power
>commanders using retarded tactics and strategy
>commanders essentially suiciding themselves and their troops in battle for the sake of pride
>not realistic

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:56:11 No.86501708
>>86501627
http://www.strangehistory.net/2011/07/18/the-emu-war-of-1932/

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:56:56 No.86501745
>>86501594
>I'm talking about their manner of speaking. It's very similar. It's the same boring, emotionless delivery every time.
What do you think am I speaking about?

And if you think the aforementioned performances (Reinhard, Yang, Reuental) were bad, then I have no choice but to call you an idiot who clearly has no idea what he's talking about because the performances were great. These were good voice acting performances. By no means boring or emotionless.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:57:12 No.86501752
>>86501655
The warfare was fine but what was the most annoying were the generals that go all FUCK THAT SHIT DO WHAT I SAY while the weak little assistant who somehow guesses what should be done is told to shut then fuck up and Yang wins or some shit, rince and repeat.

The beginning really annoyed the shit out of me that way.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:58:19 No.86501800
>>86501708
>emu war as an example
>being this retarded

Seriously, this is australia you're refrencing.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:58:38 No.86501818
>>86501708
It wasn't even a real war.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:58:43 No.86501820
>>86501627
Yes, the history of warfare is filled with stupid decisions.

And it's also filled with people who far surpass any LOGH admiral in terms of success. There have been people who have fought over a hundred battles and were beaten in none.

If you saw their lives animated you'd call them mary sues and whine about plot hacks.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:59:11 No.86501840
>>86501627
Remember trench warfare? That is one of the dumbest tactics ever conceived by man.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:59:19 No.86501852
>>86501664
I love LoGH, but i have to agree that sometimes people are shown as unbeliavable stupid just to highlight the genius of the main characters.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:59:37 No.86501866
>>86498637
Biggest troll i have seen this year

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 16:59:51 No.86501872
>>86501745
Yes, they were boring and emotionless.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 17:00:19 No.86501897
>>86501852
I can agree with this.

Maybe for plot connivence or whatever but that was annoying.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 17:01:34 No.86501951
>>86501852
In the beginning I can completely agree but later on when the main characters are running their armies, not really.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 17:02:03 No.86501962
>>86501852
Usually Yang. Every time there was a battle with Yang all his enemies became stupider. It was ridiculous and extremely annoying. I still remember that dumb as fuck episode when they hacked Iserlohn fortress.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 17:02:24 No.86501974

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>>86501872

>Reuenthal
>boring and emotionless

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 17:02:45 No.86501984
>>86501752
>the most annoying were the generals that go all FUCK THAT SHIT DO WHAT I SAY while the weak little assistant who somehow guesses what should be done is told to shut then fuck up
That happened more than often in the real world.

Historically, military leaders had a strong sense of pride. They made stupid decisions all the time.
Read up on how long it took to persuade General Yorck to move against Napoleon. How hard his advisers had to persuade him.

You, as the viewer, having the global perspective may consider it retarded, but in my opinion you're judging a bit too harshly.

Also, while the show may do the very concept a few times too often - a criticism I can led slide - it's nothing which invalidates the whole show. There is a lot more to be found in these 110 episodes to be nitpicking about a handful of scenes; which as mentioned before in a historical context aren't even that far from reality.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 17:03:02 No.86501995
>>86501605
funny thing the series does use historically successful military tactics

author done his homework

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 17:03:38 No.86502028
>>86501872
That is your opinion then and you'll have to live with people calling you a deaf retard for it who is obviously unable to tell a good from a bad performance.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 17:04:39 No.86502066
>>86501962
If anything is called impregnable in the series then it is guaranteed not to be. Iserlohn and the Artemis necklace come to mind.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 17:04:52 No.86502077
>>86501962
This is honestly my only gripe with the show. Previously intelligent and remarkable Imperial admirals had a tendency to go full retard when Yang was on the field

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 17:05:55 No.86502116
>>86501984
Oh I completely understand that, and after learning the history and mecanics of the empire, I completely understand why they kept doing that but by god was it annoying when I knew from the moment the commander spoke how the fight would end.

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Anonymous 2013-05-29 17:06:09 No.86502124
>>86502066
But all battles against Iserlohn were dumb and ridiculous. Impregnable my ass.







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