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Anonymous 2014-01-19 15:40:21 No.7312997

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Hey in going to the LSCC Con in the Uk this year its my first con in the uk what cons should i go to and stay away from.


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Anonymous 2014-01-19 17:02:38 No.7313136
Hijacking into a general Britfag thread.

Since Ame isn't running this year, what con should I go to? Are there any that actually have places left?

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Anonymous 2014-01-19 17:07:49 No.7313140
>>7312997
Might attend LSCC but not cosplaying, i even forgot about the con , is there any other cons besides the overrated MCM comic-con

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Anonymous 2014-01-19 17:13:01 No.7313148
>>7313140
also i heard yaya and riki are attending and judging the costume competition. im taking a guess its for the Heroes of cosplay.

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Anonymous 2014-01-19 18:02:57 No.7313240
London Film and Comic Con in July

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Anonymous 2014-01-19 19:18:33 No.7313377
>>7313136
I was going to go to Gemucon as a reluctant alternative to Ame, but I'm hoping to go to Japan Expo in Paris instead now and make a holiday of it (do touristy things in Paris as well as a few days at JE).

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Anonymous 2014-01-19 19:39:48 No.7313426
>>7313377
Sounds like a plan.

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Anonymous 2014-01-19 22:46:44 No.7313794
Don't go to MCM. LSCC is pretty nice. So's LFCC. Avoid anything affiliated with animeleague. If possible attend Japan Expo in Paris.

But most importantly, avoid animeleague like asbestos.

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/sp/orts 2014-01-19 22:57:49 No.7313823
Im glad there are no UK cons, keep that shit out of my country

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Anonymous 2014-01-19 23:03:12 No.7313835
>>7313823
Are you kidding

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Anonymous 2014-01-19 23:29:22 No.7313879
>>7313794
Seconding LFCC/LSCC. MCM is definitely the biggest, but man the % of weebs is far too much for me. For residential cons Minami is good for old fashioned convention fun. Kita is great for nightlife. Ame is ok but mostly down to who you go with. We all pray Aya will come back. Avoid Gemu and LAC like the plague. Never been to any Scottish/Irish cons.

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Anonymous 2014-01-20 00:11:57 No.7313982

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Can someone please explain to me the hatred with animeleague?
I don't get it. I mean, their con timetable time-keeping's pretty atrocious, but that doesn't explain it.
I mean, were they all prison guards at Auschwitz or something?

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Anonymous 2014-01-20 00:32:51 No.7314017

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>>7313982
michael towers........Need i say more

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Anonymous 2014-01-20 00:39:28 No.7314027
>>7314017
That name and that face mean nothing.
Elaborate. Lots.
And how does one man ruin an entire organization? That shit needs context

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Anonymous 2014-01-20 01:21:38 No.7314094
>>7314027
They tend to overwork volunteers and usually have no name guests. Basically the Lidl of UK cons. The fact Towers is an money grubbing pervert who uses his position to take advantage of teenage girls is just an added bonus!

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Anonymous 2014-01-20 02:02:59 No.7314171
>>7313982
>Badly organised
>Generally lower standard of attendee
>Every single one smells atrocious
>Worst programme of entertainment
>Shittest locations
>Michael Towers

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Anonymous 2014-01-20 02:38:23 No.7314229
>>7314027
Mike Towers is notorious. He has been banned from conventions in the UK - which is fucking hard to do.

Here's his ED, for once at least 80% of it is true, https://encyclopediadramatica.es/FreeSaiyan

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Anonymous 2014-01-20 02:42:17 No.7314235
There was that wonderful time he managed to get the email of everyone on the Expo forums and sent out this mass email:

>"Hey, Fellow Otaku! o_o; (Noticed you around online)

>I was going through some anime boards and I noticed your name there. So I thought that I'd send you an invite to our community! ^_^

>It's located at http://www.animeleague.net/forums . We're a friendly and slightly insane community that caters for anime, artists, roleplaying, general off topicness/randomness, entertainment, cosplaying and meetups. I feel that you'd fit in really well there, so would you like to come along and check us out? ^^

>Also, and just as importantly (!), I want to invite you to the clan I have on there for British people, and is called Anglo-Revolution. It's in the ClanNation section, and the link to it is http://www.animeleague.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=35215 . Clans are a great way to get easily involved and jump in. ^_^

>I'm also on AIM. My AIM name is FreeSaiyan
>My msn name is mtowers1982@yahoo.co.uk

>I do not check my email much, so if you wish to reply, then you're more likely to get a response if you either IM me, or register on the >boards and PM FreeSaiyan on there.

>Thanks, hope to see you around! ^_^

>~ Mike."

Completely unsolicited, so you can guess how well that went down in the UK scene. He was lucky just to have his email signed up to a billion mailing lists, and not get the law involved.

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Anonymous 2014-01-20 06:52:29 No.7314677
Remember that Pwanda (or whatever the fuck it was called) shit? Basically Towers tried to make himself the head of anime culture in the UK, and Pwanda was the mascot. He forced that shit absolutely everywhere; I'm sure someone knows more about the detail than me.

Whatever happened to it?

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Anonymous 2014-01-20 06:53:38 No.7314679
>>7314235

I was never on the Expo forums and still got that, multiple times. It must have been more than the Expo forums he got emails from.

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Anonymous 2014-01-20 12:26:08 No.7315087
>>7314677
It's still one of the AL mascots

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Anonymous 2014-01-20 12:47:05 No.7315102
>>7313879
>Kita is great for nightlife.
like what? is such a thing possible at a "UK Anime and Geek Culture convention"

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Anonymous 2014-01-20 21:14:21 No.7315829
>>7314229

>banned from conventions in the UK - which is fucking hard to do.

-Go to MCM
-Observe screeching, obnoxious, neckbeardy weebs
-Observe how they come back again and again and their behaviour is barely even noticed.
-Towers got banned from this convention

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Anonymous 2014-01-21 00:17:59 No.7316209

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>>7315102
You have to be there to realize how great it is

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Anonymous 2014-01-21 10:57:36 No.7317546
>>7316209
is it comparable to meeting up with your best friends and starting off with a few drinks and dinner at Scott's before then going to the Groucho Club for a few more drinks. then picking up 250mg of MDMA each and getting a taxi to Fabric and dancing till 6am to Andy C and Skibadee where you pick up some beautiful Brazilian girls who are here on holiday and then going to a warehouse party just off Shoreditch High Street where you cop some coke to keep you going till 10 and then finally crashing out at a house party filled with models, artists, musicians and old Etonians?

if it's not like that, i don't want to hear about it

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Anonymous 2014-01-21 19:21:17 No.7318260

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>>7317546

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Anonymous 2014-01-21 21:39:59 No.7318642
>>7313794
>Avoid animeleague
>Recommends LFCC and LSCC

what

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Anonymous 2014-01-21 21:46:04 No.7318659

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>>7317546
>going 2 fabric
>2014

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Anonymous 2014-01-21 21:57:31 No.7318684
>>7314677
It wasn't AL's mascot it was some western manga nutjob who was into scientology and thought his comic transcended the mind or something, Towers teamed up with him to make the Manga Alliance to get anime conventions talking to each other, as long as they marketed AL for free.

Only group not talking to others at the time was of course AL

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Anonymous 2014-01-21 22:02:51 No.7318694

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>>7312997
Im planning to hit up Sunnycon and OneCon this year, mainly staying local to make travel easier... might hit up some others next year, but these two are the ones ive got money for this year
>mfw next to no commissions so cant afford to go anywhere...

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Ninjabread 2014-01-21 22:08:12 No.7318708
>>7318642
Does Animeleague own Showmasters or is it just affiliated with Showmasters or just run the anime sections of Showmasters events?

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Anonymous 2014-01-21 22:30:19 No.7318762
>>7318708
Showmasters didn't want anime in their event, got left in the dust by MCM when it picked up anime and cosplay, then wanted in on the action but couldn't be arsed so outsourced it to Towers, there was a petitions worth of people warning them it was a bad move but they did it anyway

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Anonymous 2014-01-22 22:52:43 No.7321777
>>7318684
The panda stuff emailed all the uk con organisers. It basically said " we can all together under our banner. Panda panda panda or whatever" everyone laughed and went "no". Towers obviously saw it as a good way to self promote and become part of something big. (Which none of the other cons needed to do as they were popular and what not in theier own right. They didnt need to promote something else as it didnt benefit them. Towers could use this and make himself a cult leader of sorts so he leapt at it. There was lots of delicious live journal shenanigans and forum posts back in the day. It was awesome.

We hadn't had that many lots since wildercon became tokunatsu, mogchan went crazy and that yazz guy trademarked the con name and tried to take over.

I think I'll go read the Ryan gentle ed article as well now for old times sake.

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Anonymous 2014-01-23 09:44:25 No.7323273
>>7321777
It's always amazing when they forget to lock their secret plan posts.

The big scheme to give his hoardes of unwashed weebs "forum points" for every 50 other forums they spammed for AL was pretty classy.

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Anonymous 2014-01-23 16:44:02 No.7323825
>>7318708
AL just runs the cosplay section of LFCC.

LFCC have had a shaky history with their cosplay organisers. Its rather unfortunate that they are left with AL to run it. Surely, there are better people available to run it.

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Anonymous 2014-01-23 17:26:24 No.7323933
>>7317546

>Drum n bass

Yeesh. Yeah, enjoy your 'MDMA' in a club full of lads and chavs.

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Anonymous 2014-01-23 17:39:17 No.7323952
Auchinawa posted their dates.
Wonder if it's same shit different venue again

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Anonymous 2014-01-23 19:41:29 No.7324243
>>7323825
They haven't had any other, it's been AL since 2007, they just haven't cared enough to let anyone else run it

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Anonymous 2014-01-24 12:47:35 No.7326030
>Each application will be reviewed and successful applicants will be confirmed by a member of the Costume Play team.

So, when is LSCC going to confirm?

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Anonymous 2014-01-24 13:37:59 No.7326072
>>7326030
They should have already, I've just dropped out myself...

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Anonymous 2014-01-25 01:15:06 No.7327263
>>7326072
Why did you drop out

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Anonymous 2014-01-25 01:16:55 No.7327266
>>7326030
Three waves of confirmation have already been out.

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Anonymous 2014-01-25 13:15:52 No.7328034
>>7323952
last one was in Edinburgh wasn't it? I think this one will be in Glasgow

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Anonymous 2014-01-25 13:20:49 No.7328039
>>7327266
Where? I haven't had an email or seen any announcements

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Anonymous 2014-01-25 13:30:16 No.7328046
>>7327263
To much dramu and stress, I'm still attending LSCC just not entering the competition

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Anonymous 2014-01-25 14:18:28 No.7328066
>>7328039
Ziggy posted in the group 3 times and I had my confirmation e-mail the day after the competition opened.

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Anonymous 2014-01-26 02:19:09 No.7329191
>>7324243
That I know is wrong as I've known all the cosplay organisers for Showmasters. AL have only had it for the past couple of years. 2011 at the earliest.

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Anonymous 2014-01-26 09:09:41 No.7329718
>>7329191
Umm, not that anon. But from what I remember. AL were there in 2009 when I first went to LFCC

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Anonymous 2014-01-26 20:52:23 No.7330329
bump

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Anonymous 2014-01-26 21:36:59 No.7330392
>>7329718
LFCCs first cosplay events were in 09 not 07, it was definitely AL run though

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Anonymous 2014-01-26 21:43:55 No.7330402
>>7330392
Think you replied to the wrong anon seeing as that's what I've just said...

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Anonymous 2014-01-26 21:44:57 No.7330405
>>7326030
>>7328066
Registration doesn't even close until Febuary 3rd

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Anonymous 2014-01-27 00:31:21 No.7330733
>>7329718
>>7330392
I've been attending LFCC for years and can confirm that AL did not run the cosplay in 2009. I've helped out with the cosplay on occasion and got to know thes
staff over the years.

2005 LFCC launches first cosplay comp. Run by one of the Pit crew. It is then run every year by the same guy till about 2007-08 when Emily Bastin took over. In 2009 it was taken over by a cosplayer called Lady D. In my opinion one of the best who has ever ran it. She runs it for a couple of years until she retires from it. She is replaced by Turkfox who then ran it in 2010.

None of the above had anything to do with the AL. AL didn't come into play into 2011. I didn't attend that one but know of others who did and they can confirm.

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Anonymous 2014-01-27 00:55:07 No.7330768
Found this: http://www.animenewsnetwork.co.uk/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=117646

Sounds like they run/ran more than just the cosplay

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Anonymous 2014-01-27 16:29:00 No.7331890
As this is a UK thread, what are people working on for Kita?

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Anonymous 2014-01-27 16:35:19 No.7331900
>>7331890
I'm just sitting crying while surrounded by bits of fabric. Starting is the hardest bit. There's still 2 months to go though so it should be fine. I'm really just excited to see friends again and hang out and party. Should be a good laugh.

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Uncle Ulty 2014-01-27 21:06:29 No.7332198
>>7331890
Couldn't get Kita off work unfortunately, but heading to LFCC.

Any seagulls going to
CFCC
LFCC
ALcon (god help me)

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Anonymous 2014-01-28 11:51:27 No.7333615

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>>7332198
Kitacon is an entirely different experience to events like MCM and LFCC. Far more personal and IMO enjoyable. Kitacon especially with the whole thing being held in the hotel.

>>7330733
>>7318708
Showmasters approached Towers for his services to compete with MCM as they wished to branch more into the anime scene. The original showing of AL at LFCC was the VG section and the artist alley. I was one of the people running the VG section at that even on behalf of AnimeLeague and it went down a storm, which was great. The artist alley, not so much.

As time went on each even was almost exactly the same and boring so I eventually hopped off after the first LAC after then venue change, even went with Towers to check out the new venue initially. Due to pulling out my interest a few months before ALcon 2010 Michael Towers considered me a threat to AL or something and started treating me poorly on his forum, eventually eradicating the only section that called out his bullshit and banning people that did so on a regular basis.

More of a personal issue there but it shows the way that he treats people and why so few people stick around in his community so long.

>>7321777
The problem with Pandwa was that they manga was complete shit, even before the arrogance of what FreeSaiyan proposed.

Even so, ALcon 2009 was my first event and I have great memories of it - but that was due to friends being there, as people experienced with Gemucon I guess.

I swear Mike only used to talk about Bleach, Sonic and Code Geass too, it's like he has no understanding of his audience but shovelling the same few things into their mouths. That said, at the last AL event I attended Ashens was a quest which was awesome.

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Anonymous 2014-01-28 15:23:02 No.7333789
>>7313240

I went on a whim last year, it was awesome. Nearly entire cast of DS9 and Amanda Tapping/Jason Momoa were there.

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Anonymous 2014-01-28 15:50:41 No.7333832
So who is still entering LSCC, any progress shots from anyone?

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Uncle Ulty 2014-01-28 19:26:39 No.7334200
>>7333615
Yeah I went to the Kita a good few years back and it was amazing, and I'm sorely gutted I couldn't go this year, just means I have longer to work on a costume for the next Kita. The events I'm going to this year don't require much effort costume wise, apart from LFCC. Already have costumes I haven't wore yet due to the lack of cons I attended last year, so it's all good.

Who do you all think will win LSCC?

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Ninjabread 2014-01-28 20:00:30 No.7334315
>>7334200
Kind of hard to tell without knowing who all is entering.

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Anonymous 2014-01-28 20:06:20 No.7334333
>>7334315
Seems a lot of people dropped out, think I saw a doctor doom and some Wonder Woman entering and a cheap iron man.

No big names in the community then? No Xae, Sands, Lex, Karen or Yuka?

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Anonymous 2014-01-28 21:01:09 No.7334473
>>7334333
Any idea why they've dropped out?

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Anonymous 2014-01-28 21:16:28 No.7334498
>>7334473
I'm guessing some because of time, some money, and maybe some because of Tabby now being a judge?
I'm debating dropping out myself... Knowing that someone else is planning on doing the same cosplay as you is a huge turn off. I don't think my confidence could take a hit like that right now.

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Anonymous 2014-01-28 21:24:17 No.7334514
>>7334498
Why on earth would anyone care about tabbys opinion she doesn't even make her costumes. She only got to judge because she asked Ziggy if she could and Laura turned it down first

You should still enter.

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Anonymous 2014-01-28 21:27:22 No.7334521
>>7334514
I think people are put off because she doesn't make her stuff, specially if 50% are based on the making, it doesn't make sense.

Shame, I would of liked Laura to have judged since she has legit skills.

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Anonymous 2014-01-28 21:29:36 No.7334525
>>7334514
Not clue, I just know some who said that's her reason.

I'm planning on it, but I'm not going to rush and panic to finish it in time. If I don't get it finished then I won't enter. If I do, I'll see how I feel on the day. Right now all I want to do is run for the hills but I might feel differently nearer the time hence still planning on doing it.

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ai-honey 2014-01-28 21:55:59 No.7334560
>>7334514
>Laura turned it down first
You should be careful saying things like that. I highly doubt Laura told many people this.

As it is, Tabby has been involved with her Dad's larping business since she was a kid. Do you really think she hasn't learnt how to do anything?? She is however not the most confident person, she also hasn't been cosplaying long (though she has been larping a long time), so she tends to downplay what she is capable of. She doesn't know how to sew especially well, but a lot of prop making guys don't either and no one gives them shit for it.

Anyway, being as I'm the only one here who's been to their workshop and seen them work, it should be obvious in such a small business everyone has to know how to help out with everything. Even Ross has made a troll head and he is not there to make anything.

At the end of the day, she's still a professional and has eyes. She will easily be able to tell a shit prop from a good one, so why you lot are moaning I do not know.

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Ninjabread 2014-01-28 21:59:17 No.7334561
>>7334521
To be fair a judge or critic doesn't need to be an expert in practicing in their field of interest. They just need to be able to recognise the signs of skill and quality.

I'd be less worried about her capacity to judge and more her partiality.

For competitions with bigger prizes to me it seems fairer to use judges from a variety of backgrounds who aren't likely to know any of the entrants. That's not always possible though, especially in the UK where the community is so small.

Still looks like it's going to be an interesting competition. As I've said before I'm looking forward to the skits.

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Anonymous 2014-01-28 22:08:25 No.7334574
>>7334560
If it's true I wouldn't imagine the leak of info would be from her end......

I personally don't think someone who grew up surrounded by professionals and workshops full of equipment and materials could really be a good judge for a home-grown skills contest.

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ai-honey 2014-01-28 22:21:00 No.7334590
>>7334561
Indeed.

That being said, she has a lot of friends in the cosplay scene so I doubt she's going to be overly biased when many of them are entering. Yaya/Riki's votes will all balance it out.

>>7334574
>home-grown skills contest
It's a small company of about a half dozen. It's a home-grown props company.

Also that is just daft.

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Anonymous 2014-01-28 22:21:51 No.7334592
>>7334574
I agree, it doesn't matter how much you look at people making things, if you're not making it yourself its not the same, that video that was posted earlier -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUJy4yUIXrQ

Shows how much she doesn't do, until you've made a whole costume from start to finish then you cannot judge. People entering that competition aren't going to have used to professional techniques, with tools to hand.

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ai-honey 2014-01-28 22:39:04 No.7334608
>>7334592
>until you've made a whole costume from start to finish then you cannot judge

Err.. why. I'd rather trust the opinion of someone who's worked on a hundred different things, than a person who made one full costume.

She's also not removed from the cosplay community. Her knowing about various tools is not going to make the blindest bit of difference.

The video also proves diddly squat. Laura also does a lot of Admin/Community management for Artem. Doesn't mean she never makes anything.

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Anonymous 2014-01-28 22:46:08 No.7334617
>>7334608
I new someone who judged with Tabby one convention she told me couldn't name half the characters and she couldn't tell bought costume from a made one...

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Ninjabread 2014-01-28 22:48:40 No.7334618
>>7334617
Being able to name and recognise characters as a judge somewhat defeats the object the entrants providing reference pictures doesn't it?

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Anonymous 2014-01-28 22:49:32 No.7334620

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Ai-honey, please stop talking, you have no right to talk about who can judge costumes or not.

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Anonymous 2014-01-28 22:54:35 No.7334624
>>7334608
Surely Sands joined the industry AFTER already having made plenty of good costumes, how is that remotely the same?

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ai-honey 2014-01-28 23:05:34 No.7334646
>>7334617
She doesn't watch a lot of anime (why does that matter???) and I already said, she isn't good at sewing, which is what 99% of pre-bought costumes are. Yaya and Riki can sew however, so it doesn't matter.

>>7334620
And all these anon's bitching are, right? Surreeeeeee.







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