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Anonymous 2013-09-11 04:51:38 No.4790490

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How can we get diners to raise wages so there can be no more tipping?


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Anonymous 2013-09-11 04:55:29 No.4790500
>Raise servers' wages
>Owners spend more money on payroll
>Prices increase on menu to cover the difference

You bet your ass it would be more than 20% too. Get fucked. Can't afford to eat? Then don't go to a place with service.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 04:56:50 No.4790507
>>4790500
I'll gladly pay the extra to be rid of entitlement bullshit.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 04:57:01 No.4790509
>>4790500
*can't afford to tip.

If you can't afford to eat, you have bigger issues than tipping.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 05:05:56 No.4790528
>>4790507

Same, at the very least it would end the fucking tip threads.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 05:06:56 No.4790529
>>4790500
...and the servers actually pay taxes instead of pocketing most of their income.

Win-win.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 05:07:13 No.4790530
>>4790507
It's not entitlement when it's a common practice that has been well established in American culture to the point where laws have been written around it.

>Fucking people feeling entitled man! Just because their traffic light was green doesn't fucking mean they get to go! Don't they know _I_ have to be somewhere? Jesus, they're making ME account for them getting somewhere on time! What about me?


This is what you sound like. If a server ignores you, is rude, and does a worse job than what you could do if you were drunk, fine. Don't tip them. Inform the manager as well. This way you don't look like an asshole and the kid gets fired for being a shit server.

If they were a decent, average server 15% of your bill is socially considered the minimum amount.

I went to a place the other night. Fucking busy, sit down and my server rushes over and asks for drink orders, because there's five minutes left in the happy hour and tells us he can get us two beers a piece at the happy hour price. Not only that, but he chatted a little bit, and actually seemed like he wanted to make our dinner more enjoyable rather than just be a guy who brought our food. Not to mention he brought our food out fast ontop of all of this. I tipped motherfucker 50% and flagged down the manager to tell them how good that dude was at his job. If someone does a goo job, you shouldn't feel obligated to tip them well, you should WANT to tip them. However, unless the service is horrendous, you ARE obligated to leave an acceptable tip. It's like brushing your teeth or not farting loudly in public. It's the fucking social norm. Deal with it.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 05:10:04 No.4790535
>>4790530
>If someone does a goo job
I bet you love getting a goo job all over your face you big fucking queer.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 05:11:44 No.4790539
I pretty much never tip, unless the service is fucking stellar. And being crazy obsequious and my buddy isn't what I consider good service, so it is a very small window of opportunity to get a tip from me.

I hope they don't get a good minimum wage, because all the tippers subsidize the servers while I pay for a cheaper menu price and waive the tip fee.

Basically, I eat for 20% less than everyone else. Feels awesome.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 05:13:09 No.4790543

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Most servers would prefer to keep tipping credit, since they make more money that way.

Also,

>tipping thread
>ck
>guaranteed b8

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 05:13:48 No.4790544
tips are already basically free money for the restaurants

restaurants need to stop being so greedy and start paying their employees more.. then again, maybe it's not entirely greed based, and maybe it's related to the fucked up system being broken; liabilities, lawsuits, etc.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 05:16:32 No.4790549
I don't know why people support tips. Servers never claim all their income and still take advantage of all the benefits of society that taxpayers pay for.

In other words, they are self-entitled. I tip 10% and wish I had the balls to say "fuck social practices" and not tip anything.

It really annoys me that people act like bleeding hearts when it comes to people who don't pay their share of taxes simply because they walk your food like 50-100 feet over to you.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 05:16:55 No.4790550
>>4790544

It's greed-based, but not in the way you'd think. Tips are there to guarantee high sales, not promote better service.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 05:34:00 No.4790586
>>4790530
>that'll be 19.95 plus tip
>here's 50 dollars, keep the change buddy

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 05:40:28 No.4790600

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By actually making companies follow the law, like they do in every other country on the planet.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 05:47:58 No.4790610
>>4790549
I don't expect a timid dolt like yourself to understand, but a server does a FUCKTON more than take your order and bring you the food. It's about making you feel welcome, about anticipating your needs, knowing when to approach the table, what to say, how to amuse you.
Sure, you don't get this at the Olive Garden, but the high end places have it in spades.
Also, though it may seem unfair, most servers are taxed on their "assumed" tips, not what they actually receive. So if you stiff them, they may end up owing on it.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 05:48:36 No.4790611
>>4790549
you must have shitty waitresses were you live. but i usually get great waitresses and the tip i leave usually increases with the refills and what ever else they can get for me or other people at my table while im eating

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 05:52:58 No.4790615
I find it hilarious when waitstaff actually get so mad at you for tipping 10% that they would give it back to you.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 06:02:02 No.4790631
is anyone over 17 in here?

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 06:03:10 No.4790632
>>4790615
i find it hilarious that instead of tipping. people would rather have the prices of restaurant food go up in price by about 25 to 30% to cover the cost of having to pay the waitress and the cost for the tax the company has to pay for paying the waitress

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 06:03:22 No.4790633
>>4790530
>Inform the manager as well.
It's their fucking job to do this, not yours

You're saying you should either pay them extra or do extra work to complain, when this should be a customer service relationship

That's fucking ridiculous

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 06:07:45 No.4790637
This how you know the average age of 4chan is underage b&

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 06:10:05 No.4790641
>>4790610
>olive garden

Is this a thing? Everytime I've been there, the service has been dogshit.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 06:15:34 No.4790648
>>4790633
anal much?

i bet waitresses go to your table only once or twice i imagine

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 06:26:00 No.4790671
>>4790507
Entitlement doesn't mean false entitlement.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 06:27:19 No.4790673
>>4790633
It's . . . the server's job to . . . report their own poor service to their manager?

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 06:29:01 No.4790678
>>4790549
Refusing to pay for a service sounds like self-entitlement to me.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 06:34:18 No.4790690
>>4790673
It's the manager's job to manage

You're not there to give the waiter their evaluation, you're there to enjoy food

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 06:53:08 No.4790714
>>4790632
But that's how it works in most of the world. The only reason I like tipping is because I can give them zero if they are really shitty. Whereas without that ability, I'll still have to pay full price to have some shitty waitress ruin my mood.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 06:57:27 No.4790723
>>4790490

Do like other countries and make paying employees minimum wage before tips a federal requirement. Unskilled positions in my country all get at least minimum wage, which is about $16/h. If you work less hours you get paid less, (or if you're underage) but it's the same rate. tips are extra money, not make-up-my-shitty-pay-rate money.

Yes we tip here, though most tips are auto calculated by the venue when you pay, it's not up to you how much you pay.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 07:10:57 No.4790742
>>4790530
I'm not obligated to leave anything, take your shit somewhere else. I bet you even tip employees at McDonald's.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 07:13:18 No.4790746
>>4790507
this a million times.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 07:13:54 No.4790749
>>4790610
Just like every other customer service job.
Nobody tips retail employees even though the same level of work is expected of them.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 07:14:26 No.4790752
>>4790530
actually, it is entitlement. because it's not part of their wages unless you live in fly over land.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 07:18:30 No.4790759
>>4790500
Have you actually read up on the subject? Significant increases to server wages (to the federal minimum, for instance) would result in negligible price increases for customers, on the order of 1 to 5% if I recall correctly.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 07:23:06 No.4790767
>>4790723
my country sucks!!! 16.00 is 3 times the minimum wage i got paid. fuck!

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 07:28:36 No.4790776
>>4790723

Goddamn $16/h for minimum wage? Here it is $7.50. When I was a teenager I think minimum wage was around $6.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 07:33:05 No.4790785
>>4790776

$16/h is the adult wage, you must be 20 if you're 16 it's half that, so $8/h.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 07:42:47 No.4790791
>>4790759
5% of $20 is one dollar then minus income tax the company has to pay on that dollar will equal around 50 cents. a waitress would have to wait 20 tables an hour at the cheaper restaurants to get the extra 10 dollars for their hourly wage of 10 dollars oh wait restaurants are only packed during lunch and dinner hours and even then waitresses dont wait on 20 tables an hour. hmmm you 1 to 5% figure is wrong buddy

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 07:48:45 No.4790795
>>4790791
I live in a state where everyone is paid minimum wage no matter how many tips are made. some faggots live in states where if they make less than minimum, the employer is expected to compensate them. either way your argument puts you on the bottom of the totem pole. even if you're better at math than the other guy, you don't have a point.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 07:49:26 No.4790796
>>4790787
waitresses here get paid about 1.75 an hour and its only 3 dollars for a loaf of the healthy oatmeal bread or 18 grain bread with all the fancy stuff sprinkled on the crust or other breads of that caliber. also our sweets dont need warnings that excesive consumption will have a laxitive effect

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 07:51:07 No.4790799
>>4790791
Fuck your back-of-a-napkin 'common sense,' have some goddamn research: http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2012/10/24/food-day-report-on-how-minimum-wage-hike-would-impact-consumers-workers/

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 07:53:38 No.4790800
>>4790795
you dont have to tip and if your poor but still nice to the waitress its fine. but if your a douchebag. the waitress dosnt have to serve you and can even get you kicked out of the establishment. the waitress works on tips and dosnt have to put up with your shit if your being a dick! tips are great! it keeps the waitress happy to be at work

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 07:57:13 No.4790804
>>4790799
maybe if each plate cost 200 dollars per person either that or the place was packed from open until closed and the workers worked even harder then they already do

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 08:06:28 No.4790818
>>4790800
actually thats provably wrong, Waiters and waitresses perform better without tipping to agaonize and pan handle over.
It's also pretty fucking clear your whole point of view relies on assuming I'm a jack ass who gets thrown out of restaurants.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 08:08:28 No.4790821
>>4790799
berkeley fags who dont want to tip figured it out while being cheapskates sitting at a table in the restaurant. of look fellow berkeley fag. this waitress has 20 tables even though almost all of them are empty we will ignore that part because we are berkeley fags and if we ran the place obviously every table would be full always. plus also everybody would order the most expensive meal always because we are berkeley fags and durr dee durr i hate having to tip money because im a pretentious berkeley fag and blah blah blah no kindness in my heart for anybody and blah blah pretentious faggotry and stuff tipping sucks

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 08:10:42 No.4790832
>>4790818
you must be from an area were everybody feels self entitled. im assuming you do as well

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sage 2013-09-11 08:11:20 No.4790834
>>4790791
>>4790804
>you know, i'm pretty sure x is like this
>NUH UH, CAN'T BE, I KNOWS IT, LOOKIT DEM NUMBERS I DREW
>alright, I dug up a news article about a study demonstrating that's what it's like
>CAN'T BE BUD, I KNOW THIS SHIT, YOU'SE BETTER TAKE YER FANCY BOOK LERNIN BACK TO COMMIESTAN

Yup.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 08:12:40 No.4790839
>>4790500
>You bet your ass it would be more than 20%
I would like to see some maths to support that.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 08:18:57 No.4790858
D-do people really get this upset over a lousy tip or is this all some in-house /ck/ trolling and I'm not a part of the joke?

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 08:19:01 No.4790860
>>4790818
my experience with waitress gfs is that the waitresses who only go to a table once and then go stand around talking to the other waitresses and bus boys talking about who is going to give a shitty tip usuall dont make that much and are pissed off all day and even if they did get paid a decent hourly wage they would still give shitty customer service. where as all my waitress friends who are good at their job and happy for what ever tip they get and even if happier once the shittier dick heads leave usually give the best service and make decent tips

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 08:22:51 No.4790869
>>4790858
a little of both

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 08:24:45 No.4790873
>>4790858

Some people really do. There was even some blog where analpained wait staff were posting names of people who gave bad tips (and by bad, anything under 20% was bad) to try and shame them.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 08:30:26 No.4790881
How did tips mushroom from "exceptional service gets something extra / keep the change, average service gets nothing, bad service gets reported to the manager and fired" into "20% is customary, good service deserves more, and no matter how bad the service is you are never ever ever allowed to not tip and 10% is the barest of minimums"? Because fuck that shit.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 08:32:12 No.4790884
>>4790873
once after waiting for the check for atleast 15 minutes me and my party got up and left without paying. staff was to busy socializing with one another to pay attention to the customers

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 08:46:16 No.4790904
>>4790881
Shitty restaurant operators like it because their margins are that razor thin, due to shittiness.

Customers enjoy having peons sing and dance for pennies, to distract themselves from the fact that they, too, are peons dancing for pennies.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 08:53:08 No.4790912
>>4790858

people really get that upset.
I work at a restaurant (in the kitchen) and the servers get so MAD when people leave bad tips. and for good reason really, its basically someone telling them that they don't deserve to earn money.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 08:53:59 No.4790913
tipping is such bullshit, i'm not going to pay somebody for doing their job, i pay the company they work for and the company pays them, that's how it works for every other company, my servers are always little punks from college who turn insane if you don't tip well, regardless of how shit they were

if you want my tips go above and beyond at your job, and stop being such entitled pricks, your job isn't hard and unless you are autistic it's easy to be polite, remember my order and bring it to me

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 09:08:59 No.4790920
What really bumps my goose is restaurants that have you order and pay before you're seated and served.

I suppose I could pay, be served, and leave a tip at the end but what if they think I'm not going to tip at all and make my food shit. I've never experienced restaurants that operate like that (besides fast food; but you don't tip those dingus') up until last month when I was visiting a friend out of my country.

Wat do /ck/

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 09:31:53 No.4790948

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>tips already added on the bill
There is nothing on earth more grotesque than this.
It sounds like something that has been made up, but it hasn't, it is here and it exists.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 09:40:30 No.4790965
>>4790610

>assumed tips

Stop right there criminal scum. This is a sack of shit and you need to die in the nearest fire.

Also yes, servers ARE entitled shits. Tips make people into assholes. If you don't believe me, you should have seen what happened to my workplace when they adopted an official protocol for dealing with tips received (I work in airport food service which is not fast food based so don't even try).

Everyone got along and just took whatever tips they were given till mandated sharing and percentages and whatnot were enacted because the non-cooks were supposed to receive more tips than the cooks due to that being a promised part of their wage (like a server even though they have an even easier job than a server does) and it turned everyone into greedy grabasses who backstab each other and fight over twenty cents.

It's pathetic. I once asked the servers at one of my previous jobs if they would work for me if I paid them $9/hr (this was in Michigan; the minimum wage at the time was a little over $7/hr) AND let them keep 50% of all tips they got, with the rest going to the back of the house and buss staff, and they laughed at the notion.

tl;dr - servers are entitled cunts. Don't be fooled. Tipping is not mandatory. If they don't make the minimum wage post-tips they get comped. Only tip if they do a good or great job. And never believe anyone who says they need those tips to prevent getting fucked on taxes; 'assumed' tips is not nor ever will be a thing unless you work at Amy's.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 09:57:04 No.4790987

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Went out to eat to a ny-themed deli out here in Houston, TX called Katz with my grandma and girlfriend. The service was not exceptional, but definitely good. From sit down to exit, we probably spent about 45 minutes in the place. At the end of our meal, the bill was 41 dollars. I thought 4 dollars was an acceptable tip. I work as hourly management(shift leader) at a restaurant and make 9.55/hr(table staff makes 7.50 plus tips from people who think that the table staff makes 2.00 hr because muh standards, but thats another story), so a 4 dollar tip seems quite reasonable. I was waterboarded by both my grandma and gf over such a low tip. I ended up leaving 5 dollars. Would a waiter really be offended by a 4 dollar tip? I'm occasionally tipped 2 or 3 and feel very thankful. Do waitstaff really feel that entitled to 15%? Also, I can't believe I was grilled over how much to tip by two people that I was paying for... but one of them was my nan so its ok LOL.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 10:13:05 No.4791003
>>4790507
100%

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 10:14:39 No.4791005
>>4790490
>Live in Sweden
>Made 13 dollars per hour when I worked at Burger King a few years ago
>Restaurants still don't go bankrupt, and can all afford to pay their workers a good salary

Thank god I don't live in a third world country.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 10:37:32 No.4791032
>>4790948

>or when there are only three options for a tip: 10,15,20

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 10:52:48 No.4791047
>>4790500
>prices go up 5%
>no longer expected to tip 25% if I ever want to eat there again
sounds like a good deal, especially since it would discourage shit service towards tourists

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 11:00:14 No.4791050
>>4791005
do you know the definition of third world or do you just say it thinking you know

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 11:25:11 No.4791063
>>4791050
I know both definitions. USA fits the more modern one, even if they were, by definition, the prime opposite of the original one.

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BERKLEYBERKLEYBERKLEY 2013-09-11 11:29:10 No.4791065
>>4790821
>BERKLEYBERKLEYBERKLEY
>BERKLEYBERKLEYBERKLEY
>BERKLEYBERKLEYBERKLEY
>BERKLEYBERKLEYBERKLEY

I'm not even from there, you psychopathic mong.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 11:30:09 No.4791066
Oh God, this is a terrible crime. Racism is the WORST (imagine an underline under that word) crime that can be committed in America, ever. Nevermind that we are going to engage in another illegal war, no, we've got to worry about this poor, poor woman who was a victim of racism. Good Lord, save us from this degraded society!

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 11:30:24 No.4791067
>>4790839
The numbers don't support it. They flat out contradict it.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 11:33:00 No.4791069
>>4791063
you don't know much
you didn't make much more than a burger king worker in the US would earn
and shit is cheaper in the US so I'm pretty sure they got the better deal

enjoy delusion about your country

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 11:33:40 No.4791070
>>4791066
if the war is illegal, why haven't you followed the logical route of those implications and sought to remove the illegitimate leader from power? Given it is effectively treason he is committing there are few actions you can take that could be called illegal by anyone not corrupt

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 11:35:20 No.4791071
>>4791070
>illegitimate leader
How is he illegitimate?

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 11:45:22 No.4791076
>>4791071
His job is to represent the people and uphold the constitution, yet he propagates rights violations, such as NSA violating privacy rights, while also dismissing the people's near-unanimous opposition of delivering more 'murikun freedumb' to the middle-east.
Nixon was impeached for wiretapping a hotel room, Obama wiretapped the nation.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 11:59:32 No.4791082
tipping has nothing to do with cooking or food.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 12:10:50 No.4791098
>>4791069
Even after tax I still get more money than your typical wage slave in murrika. And healthcare is almost free, and education is completely free. Back when I was unemployed and sick, the state gave me about 1200 dollars per month, and paid for my healthcare. Not once did I have to worry about becoming homeless, starving, or getting crushed by dept. I'll never understand how Americans can think they have it better than us.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 12:16:43 No.4791106
>>4791098

b-but...muh freedoms...

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 13:18:15 No.4791171
Restaurants must raise prices in order to make that feasible.
I'm from Jewropistan. My country occasionally has tipping, but mostly not. I live in Freedumbs now. One thing that I prefer here in Freedumbs as opposed to back home is the price of going out to eat.
Where back home, the cost of a steak dinner with chips/fries, spinach and bread would cost around the US equivalent of $26.50, an identical meal in the US would cost about a third less (around $15-17USD). Add around a 20% tip (about $3.20) and 8% tax (about $1.25) and it's still cheaper than back home.

I've few problems with living and working in Freedumbs (and many, many issues with doing the same in Jewropistan), but as the thread is yet another tip v no-tip thread, I won't get into those and will say only that tipping is the better system as it benefits the customer, business owner and worker alike, so long as all three parties acknowledge the implied social contract of dining out according to US customs and fulfill their duties therein.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 13:19:55 No.4791173
>>4791171
back home you would have gotten grass-fed, msg-free steak

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 13:29:25 No.4791179
>>4791173
Honestly, I don't notice too great a difference with beef quality here v home. Some things are vastly better here (best damned apples and plums ever here in the US), while we've some products back home that are far superior to what's sold in the US (chicken stateside is horrid and the fish isn't so great, either), but most things are roughly comparable, some slightly better here and some slightly better back home.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 13:30:56 No.4791181
>Dunn Purnsley

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 13:55:58 No.4791208
>>4790500
Actually a study was done (I forget by who, you can probably find it on Google somewhere) which showed that if waiters and waitresses wages were changed to minimum wage that food prices at restaurants would go up by about ten cents at most. At restaurants the smallest expense which owners pay is the wages of their staff, and they are already so low that it won't make much difference. Additionally, there's this thing called balancing your budget and an owner could simply allocate a little money from one area and use it for wages, which would result in no change of food prices.

The whole "your food will become super expensive!" argument is perpetuated by the greedy chain-restaurants who want to get away with paying their staff next to nothing. They want customers to pay staff wages instead (which you do in the form of tips) and they have fixed the minimum wage for waiters and waitresses at a very low price. We have to do something about it, not just let businesses push around their employees and customers.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 13:59:36 No.4791216
>>4791208

Most chain franchise owners are middle class households struggling to get by on under $600,000 per year. That's not some fresh faced kid just out of business school with zero expenses and retirement 30 years out mind you - it's the TOTAL net income for a four to five person household, with retirement age looming in the next 15 years, and that's BEFORE taxes (aka stealing and giving money to lazy people).

Anyway before you go off on "greedy" chain restaurants you should consider what kind of people you're trying to hurt with your unreasonable suggestions on how to run a business.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 14:03:48 No.4791220
>>4790490
I don't want diners to raise wages because I don't tip and I don't want prices to go up at all. I just take advantage of how things work now.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 14:04:45 No.4791221
I'm black and live in Tennessee. Anyone have any questions for me?

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 14:06:56 No.4791225
>>4790987
i always do the 15% rule not a penny more. also the wierd thing is the only place where i have tipped over the limit is at a dennys the food wasn't that great but man the service i recieve was the best, literally the nicest servers.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 14:10:09 No.4791229
>>4791221
Why are you such an attention whore?

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 14:10:56 No.4791231
>>4791229
Because my parents didn't love me.

Anymore questions?

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 14:12:20 No.4791233
>>4791221
Do you live in a predominately black or white town?

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 14:14:16 No.4791236
>>4791208
Former server here, you can get fucked. I would much rather work for tips than work for minimum wage and receive no tips.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 14:14:34 No.4791238
>>4791233
I live outside the city's limits in the county. It's equal black and white with sprinkles of Asians.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 14:14:37 No.4791239
>>4790490
>Taking pictures of the entire receipt.

Has anyone used this to get the negress fired yet?

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 14:15:52 No.4791241
>>4791236
Is 15 percent a sufficient amount?

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 14:20:57 No.4791248

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>>4791239
You're right

What is the signed name on the receipt? I wish to retribut- I mean warn the customer that their friendly tip is being posted on the internet.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 14:26:54 No.4791253
>>4791241
It all depends. Most servers will tell you 20% should be the norm, but in my experience it all averages out regardless of what they want.

I've had people stiff me on big checks, and have had people give me a $100 tip on a check that wasn't more than $60.

But in the end, I was clearing at least $100 for a less than 8 hour shift, and I was making $2-4 an hour on top of that (I don't remember the exact amount now its been a few years). That averages out to around $15 an hour, most of it in tax free cash tips.

I would much rather depend on people complementing my service through tips than being paid a lower guaranteed wage. And for all the bitching that some of these servers do, I'd bet none of them would disagree with me.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 14:29:57 No.4791257
>>4790490
Strikes... oh wait no, that's socialism and thus automatically evil.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 14:32:51 No.4791262
>>4791257
>strikes=socialism

I realize you're trying to be sarcastic but you're trying to hard. I've never seen free market proponents argue that.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 14:48:16 No.4791280
People who know servers: are they waiting on purpose until I have a mouthful of food to ask me how things are?

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 14:52:29 No.4791287
>>4791280

I did this intentionally for lulz. I would also crop dust my co workers tables and watch the guests reactions. Good times

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 14:58:16 No.4791295
>>4791280
I think that just happens because once people get their food their mouths are always stuffed, at least in america.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 15:02:34 No.4791307
>>4791295
Only in the south. Or if It's a burrito

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 15:09:39 No.4791321
>>4790490
It's been proven that the sheboon wrote the 'racist' remark to garnish sympathy

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 15:12:11 No.4791325
>>4791321
sauce?

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 15:19:58 No.4791339

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>>4790507
this, i don't even eat at restaurants but this is such a big annoying issue that i want people to stop having wars over it.

i always feel like its unfair how unairly waiters and other tippable-type jobs get paid, just because the boss thinks that these poor f****rs get enough and should earn the rest from people who just wanted to eat a sandwich, and are not expecting to give up even more money than the price of the food.

what a retarded paradoxical system.

waiters should get paid FULL wages, not a penny and "earn the rest if your so good" they are already working a job, they should get paid for it.

as for the people eating at a restaurant, they shouldn't have to worry about paying for anything other than the price of food, people go to restaurants to sit down and relax and pay the restaurant to prepare and cook the food and bring it to them, and they already pay much more than it would have costed them to buy all the ingredients and make it themselves at home, so for the pressure of needing to pay some poor kid tips to be there, it kind of screws everyone over, the waiter, the customer, etc.

imagine if you could just walk in, sit down, pay for your meal, eat it, go home.

imagine if you could go to work, get paid for working, and go home.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 15:29:08 No.4791349
>>4791236
first look at
>>4791339

and now my comment

>"Former server here, you can get ****d. I would much rather work for tips than work for minimum wage and receive no tips"

what if tips were not mandatory (as they seem to be)
anymore, and optionally you could tip if you really felt a
waiting employee did a really great job?

(assuming you also got paid a better minimum wage like i said in
>>4791339

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 15:31:51 No.4791356
>>4791349
In virtually all other jobs, one gets no more than a thank you if one does a good job. Why should poor students be any different?

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 15:42:04 No.4791384
>>4791253

Basically the reason for every waitstaff internet defence force post ever - you don't want the system to change because the present scam is inherently more profitable for you.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 15:42:48 No.4791385
>>4791339
>imagine if you could just walk in, sit down, pay for your meal, eat it, go home.
That would be called fast food anon. Although in a different order: walk in, pay for meal, then you sit down and eat it, then go home.

But all joking aside, in a perfect world this would be ideal. Servers would get paid better, full wages so they didn't have to depend on tips, and customers wouldn't have to worry about giving tips if they don't want to.

But we live in a world that's far from perfect. Many thing can go wrong with that and not many restaurant owners will be willing to use up more money for employee wages when they can have the customers help "pay" for the salary of the servers.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 15:55:46 No.4791398
>>4790530
I can feel your entitlement from here.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 15:59:41 No.4791401
>>4791384
>scam
>adding an optional gratuity to your bill

>>4791349
>what if tips were not mandatory
They aren't. I've served plenty of people who don't tip and don't ever seem to tip (eurofags and niggers I'm looking at you). I still serve them. Will I think kindly of them? Probably not. But I'm not going to do a bad job just because.

The rub of it is is that it's part of our culture now. It's not something you can just decide to change overnight by raising server's wages. People will still tip, and thus server's will still expect tips for good service. It's not something that can just be changed with a flick of a switch.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 15:59:52 No.4791402
>>4790632
>prices of restaurant food go up in price by about 25 to 30%
Can you prove that? No? Alright then.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 16:04:33 No.4791408

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>>4790500

>tfw proponents of tipping tell you that they're only trying to save you money, that you can't afford what you're asking for, then in the same breath call you a poorfag for trying to avoid the tipping.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 16:04:50 No.4791409
>>4791402
Not that anon, but in an industry with already notoriously low profit margins, you can expect any increase in cost to passed through to the customer. I don't know if it would be as high as that person claimed but it would most certainly go up.

And all of the "studies" that show prices wouldn't increase by much use minimum wage as the price of wage increase. I can tell you first hand there isn't a server alive who would work for no tips and minimum wage.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 16:08:57 No.4791413
>>4791401
>I've served plenty of people who don't tip and don't ever seem to tip (eurofags and niggers I'm looking at you). I still serve them. Will I think kindly of them? Probably not. But I'm not going to do a bad job just because.

Congratulations. You're a saint. But you can't possibly think you're representative of every waitstaff anywhere ever.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 16:12:57 No.4791418
>>4790530
So who else are you obligated to tip?
Do you tip your mailman? the people who check out your groceries, since of course, you could go through the self check out and do it all for yourself, but these people are doing a service to you for scanning and bagging all of your shit AND getting paid minimum wage. are you obligated to tip these people as well. Your argument makes no valid point, other than showing everyone you are obviously a overentitled waiter.
Kindly get your head out of your ass man.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 16:13:25 No.4791419

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>>4790490
Take out the "service" aspect.

There's this thing in some korean restaurants (pic). When you press it, a waiter comes and does what you ask for. They leave, by default, a pitcher of water/tea at your table, and you refill by yourself.

No annoying bitch asking if everything's alright. Just the minimum amount of service possible. That way, there is nothing to give a tip for, and you can eat in peace.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 16:15:43 No.4791421
>>4791418
lots of people tip their mailmen, tailors, and other service workers.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 16:15:59 No.4791424
>>4791419
They got that from Japan. Although I kind of like the whole shouting sumimasen and the person racing over. Pressing a button is definitely easier though

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 16:17:13 No.4791426
>>4791413
The thing is, as a server you don't know if the person is going to stiff you or not until the end of the meal. The idea that servers will treat you bad because you don't tip only comes into play if you go to the same place over and over again repeatedly

I've had customers I could've sworn would stiff me and ended up leaving a generous tip, and visa versa.

Anyone who has ever served for a length of time can tell you its all about playing the averages.

Oh and unless you are really obnoxious, no one remembers you as the guy who didn't leave a tip last month. Servers have too many faces go in and out of their doors to worry about that.

Of course if you're in a podunk little restaurant every night of the week that's different. But I don't think that applies to most people.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 16:20:14 No.4791430
>>4791424
Really? All the jap restaurants here don't have that, though I must say the koreans here are fresher off the boat.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 16:21:08 No.4791432
>>4791418
I always leave a christmas tip/bonus for my mailmen, garbagemen, basically anyone I use repeatedly. It's good practice to make people happy who are involved in your life, and that is an easy way to do it.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 16:23:12 No.4791434
>>4791409
>I don't know if it would be as high as that person claimed but it would most certainly go up.

The reason why it's relatively high is because in the USA the employer pays additional taxes that aren't part of your normal paycheck. You know how various taxes get deducted from your pay and are marked there on your pay stub? (Medicare, social security, etc?) Your employer pays that same amount again in payroll taxes. The effective tax rate is actually double what it says on your pay stub. Plus they also pay local taxes for unemployment benefits and so on.

So, to do some simple math: Let's say you want the waiter to "take home" $10--as they would if you gave them a $10 bill as a tip. Assuming their tax bracket is roughly 30%, then it would actually cost the restaurant about $18 total for the waiter to get that $10. Restaurant pays out roughly $18; $2 of that goes to local/city/county taxes that the employer pays. $3 of that or so goes to the employer's side of social security/medicare/etc. The employee then pays the same $3 again for those same deductions on his/her pay stub.

Of course the actual cost per MEAL depends on how many tables each server has, and how many meals they serve per hour, etc. But it's clear that it is much more costly (due to taxes) to pay a higher wage than it is to tip the waitstaff directly.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 16:23:57 No.4791435
>>4791421

Which they're at liberty to do, or not, because those people are already paid a minimum wage.

People act like opponents of tipping expect you to be thrown in jail for leaving any extra change on the table. For the most part all they want is a return to when it wasn't an enshrined right as part of minimum wage law.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 16:28:47 No.4791438
>>4791426

Why not have an exchange. We alternate. For 5 years we have tipping. Waiters provide service and then rely on the trust and good will of the customer to leave an adequate tip.

At the end of that period we switch. Customers pay an upfront service charge included in the cost of the food and rely on the trust and goodwill of the waitstaff to provide an adequate service.

And so on and so on...

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 16:35:26 No.4791448
>>4790490
OP you obviously didn't deserve a tip, and writing the word nigger on the receipt yourself was a pretty low-class racist thing to do. I hope you die of cancer pleb.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 16:35:42 No.4791449
>>4791434

You say the restaurant already pays that half of the wage as a matter of course, in which case one would assume that that part of their expenditure is already calculated in the bill and passed on to the customer. You're implying they'd tack it on AGAIN?

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 16:36:48 No.4791451
>>4791438
Hypothetically that would be a great test but realistically you could never pull it off.

As >>4791434 said, even raising server's wages to $10 per hour take home to account for loss of tips increases the cost substantially.

Plus most servers already make more than $10 per hour on average.

I personally would rather have a system where the food is what I pay for, then I can add on a price for the service that I choose based on the quality of service. I like that system personally because it gives me a cheaper meal up front and full control over how much I want to end up paying.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 16:44:36 No.4791462
>>4791448
Top lel, I just did a reverse image search and it looks like that negress was suspended for posting that online:

http://www.salon.com/2013/09/10/red_lobster_employee_suspended_after_posting_racist_receipt_online_partner/

>Some “harassed” Jenkins over the authenticity of the bill, and Jenkins, who is studying to become a nurse, deleted the photo.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 17:43:52 No.4791554
>>4791253
Ok. I'll make sure not to tip next time. I'm sure I put in more work than you in my 8.50 usd an hour warehouse job in one hour than you do for your waiter job for 8 hours.

You don't like it? Get another job.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 17:45:39 No.4791555
i like how the wait staff who stand around socializing with other staff members and ignore the customers are the first people to try to get everybody to split the good wait staffs tips with them and everybody else.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 18:07:16 No.4791591
>>4791462
if its an authentic receipt were the customer actually wrote that comment she should make a claim against the company who suspended her for racial discrimination and siding with the customer making racial remarks.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 18:09:24 No.4791595
>>4791591
If it was real, she wouldn't have a case because she was suspended for posting the full receipt including the customers name. The racism is irrelevant.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 18:11:07 No.4791599
>>4791462
lol here comes the NAACP

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 18:52:52 No.4791642
>>4791216
And what was the point you were trying to get across? Yes, franchisees exist, and those who are franchisees aren't those mega rich corporate people who started the company but are often living with less or doing it because they want the freedom and independence while using the title and standards of a reputable company. They can still budget to pay a decent wage to employees, and even if they put the expense of higher wages on the customers in the form of higher meal prices the increase wouldn't be extreme at all. And if they chose to not make the customers pay in the form of increased food prices they still have the option of budgeting their balance sheet in another form.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 19:01:29 No.4791654
>>4791236
But there are problems with tipping. Some servers might work extremely hard and be very professional and polite but get no tip since tipping is optional. Some servers may perform mediocre service and then yell at a customer for not leaving a tip. Some may get the sense of self-entitlement. And then there's the whole "tip shaming" trend where waiters and waitresses like to post pictures of receipts with no tip on it and bitch about it over the internet. If people are simply given a livable wage then we can get rid of many of these problems.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 19:07:09 No.4791659
>>4791449
>You're implying they'd tack it on AGAIN?

I'm talking about the TAXES being tacked on twice, not the wage itself. You know how when you get your paycheck there are various tax deductions on it that are "taken out of your pay". That's actually HALF the taxes. The employer pays an equal amount of taxes directly to the IRS, they just don't get printed on your pay stub. So if your paycheck says $1000 gross and you "take home" $700 after taxes (for example), the actual cost to your employer is $1300 and you "take home" $700 since they have to pay that same $300 that was deducted from your paycheck. In other words, the gov't taxes you $300 AND your employer also has to pay that same $300. Mind you, that's federal taxes only. Employers also have to pay additional taxes that you, the employee doesn't pay. These include franchise taxes, business property tax, unemployment taxes, and so on. Employees are quite costly to the employer, more so than it would appear based on your pay stub.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 19:11:09 No.4791663
>>4791321
Not surprising as the handwriting of the signature is different.

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The Australian with koala powers 2013-09-11 19:15:16 No.4791672
>>4790490
>low class
>from the beginning of the country we had racism and discrimination

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 19:23:13 No.4791679
Tip the fucking cook you giant assholes. Were the first ones to get to work and the last ones to leave and get the least money. The fucking bus boys at my place get a share of the tips

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 19:30:40 No.4791687
>>4791679
>Tip the fucking cook you giant assholes.
Why? He gets his wage.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 19:34:32 No.4791692
>>4791687

They often make much less than the servers.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 19:51:19 No.4791712
>>4791679

Cookbro, let me regale you with a glorious story of butthurt servers and cook vindication.

>Cooking in a nice restaurant, still only making $11/hr after two years
>Once a year, super VIP comes in and rents out the entire restaurant for lunch with his six sisters.
>Dude makes his annual reservation, four weeks early the chef comes to me and the other hot shit cook, asks us to help him develop a menu, pick wines, etc
>We bust our asses, come up with a great menu, plan out every detail
>Servers catch wind of the lunch, start gossiping and fighting over who's going to get to wait on the VIP (last year his tab was $2500)
>Two days before the lunch, chef calls staff meeting
>Tells servers that they all have that lunch off
>He, the other cook and I will be the servers, sommelier and cooks.
>His reasoning is that they contributed exactly nothing to that lunch thus far, while we did literally all of the fucking work. Ergo, they deserve nothing.
>They're all shooting daggers out of their fucking eyes at us, we just lol
>Day comes, guy ends up spending $3500
>Leaves a $1,000 tip on top of that, chef takes $200 and gives me and the other cook $400
>Come in later that night to collect, make a server count out my tip to me
>He's visibly angry, trembling
>I lol
>The next day, owner comes up to me and the other cook and ask us if we'll kick the servers who were normally scheduled that day a hundred bucks, says the entire waitstaff is throwing a bitchfit to him
>Politely decline, unless it means that we're going to get a cut every time a server makes $300 in a day (which is often)
>Three servers (including the guy I made count my money out) quit over it over the next three days, nothing lost, they were the greedy shitbags out of the group anyways
>Chef laughs his ass off over it

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 19:56:01 No.4791721
Guys
Guys
Guys what if
What if
Are you listening
Guys
What if we just removed waiters and let people go into the kitchen and serve themselves!

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 20:09:14 No.4791735
>>4791679

How do you go about doing some of this? I've heard of it but I've never done it.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 20:09:27 No.4791736
>>4791659
I'm not sure I quite follow all that maths.

But all I was saying, was that since the restaurants already pay that tax, it's almost certainly already included in the price of the food. So if waiters got paid more through minimum wage, our food would only increase by the 'difference' in the tax, not the whole tax amount

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 20:10:22 No.4791739
>>4791735

* something like this

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 20:12:45 No.4791743

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>>4791721

shhhhh

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 20:12:52 No.4791744
>>4791735

Give the money to a manager.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 20:22:49 No.4791765
>>4791712
This warms the heart.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 20:29:10 No.4791779
>>4791712
Nice! I'm just so sick of seeing servers counting out their tips, fighting over tables, etc. Like bitch you have 100 bucks in your hand for just a few hours of work plus that wage. If the food was shit nobody would be tipping you.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 20:50:04 No.4791829
>>4791591
>she should make a claim against the company who suspended her for racial discrimination and siding with the customer making racial remarks.

But that's not true. There have been previous cases where employees have been fired and/or suspended for dragging the company into the public spotlight like that. It wasn't the companies fault, I don't see why they have anything to do with this.

They even cite a couple other examples in the article.

>Some servers might work extremely hard
>Some servers may perform mediocre service
>Some may get the sense of self-entitlement
>If we pay them more we would get rid of these problems

>And then there's the whole "tip shaming" trend where waiters and waitresses like to post pictures of receipts with no tip on it and bitch about it over the internet.

And this affects your life how? People have been bitching about their jobs since Cain and Abel, you aren't going to get them to stop now.

>>4791679
>>4791712
I've worked both in the kitchen and FOH and I feel for the cookbros. That story was excellent.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 20:51:26 No.4791831
>>4791829
oops meant to quote
>>4791654
for the second part of that

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 21:09:38 No.4791863
You're operating under the assumption that she didn't do this herself.

Why in all of all things would you sign your name, to a receipt. One that will allow you to be found if they really want to pursue it.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 21:11:12 No.4791867
Doesn't matter what you pay them, they will always ask for more and try to guilt trip customers rather than have their employees pay them. You know why they won't do change this? The waiters at the top working at high end restaurants are making a KILLING. When the menu is full of 30-50$ steaks, 100-200$ drinks and wines...20% off of a 200-400$ bill for the lousy work that they do? It's just nuts that they can work 2-3 tables and get paid just as much as strippers and doctors in one night.

The only people complaining are the ones at low end restaurants. They can't get jobs at the high end places without tons of experience and the right connections. I'm all for making restaurants paying them a set salary (yes prices will go up) and getting rid of tipping ALL TOGETHER. But you know that won't happen.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 21:19:06 No.4791882
>Write down order
>Bring order back
>Wait
>Pick up food
>Bring food
>Work over

Man that's rough and deserves special treatment

>But he stood at my table talking for 5 minutes, because he didn't want to actually do his job, that deserves at least 20%

You don't walk up to a chatty police officer and hand him $10 because "He was a nice police officer" and "deserved a tip".

If your job doesn't pay you as much as you want it to, get another job. A LOT Of people would be completely content with their waiter/waitress pay if there was no tipping, but yes, they feel ENTITLED to tips and if you don't tip you get threatened with spit in your food or worse.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 21:20:21 No.4791885
>>4791863
>Why in all of all things would you sign your name, to a receipt.
Because they paid with a Visa. You HAVE to sign.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 21:21:57 No.4791890
>>4791867
>they will always ask for more and try to guilt trip customers

tell me again how they guilt trip the customers into tipping them. I've never had a server try to guilt me into giving her a tip.

>impossible mode: complaining about it after I leave doesn't count

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 21:24:56 No.4791898

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>>4791005
>>4791063
>>4791098
Enjoy your diversity

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 21:28:24 No.4791907
>>4791898
How is it that sweden can support both lgbt AND islam? cognitive dissonance?

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 21:30:09 No.4791909
>>4791885

WHY would you write a slut on the slip at all then? Do you really think its some incredibly uncontrolled impulse, like alcoholism or something?

No, this is fucking stupid.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 21:30:51 No.4791911
I made $122 in tips for five hours work today in addition to my $9.00 hourly wage. Come at me bros.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 21:31:39 No.4791914
You know, the hand writing doesn't really match on that receipt.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 21:36:26 No.4791919
>>4791909
It's Red lobster, there's a good chance the guy WAS drunk.

>>4791914
THAT I'll agree with.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 21:39:28 No.4791926

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>>4791907
The mind of a Liberal is a scary place.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 21:39:29 No.4791927
By never eating at a place where tipping is a thing. Anything else works to keep the practice going.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 21:40:07 No.4791928
>>4791779
>>4791765

Thanks, bros. I knew you'd like it. I miss that chef. He was so good as putting the servers in their place. They couldn't do shit, either, since he was co-owner. There was one glorious Friday night when he fired a server for looking at a tip in the check presenter and making a stink in reaction to it. He made all of them come in early on holidays and work the entire day. Whenever someone would whine or complain, they were sent straight home without question. The servers had to do pre-shift line-ups when he first came on board. They had to present:

1) Clean nails
2) Clean shoes, pressed shirt, slacks, and apron
3) A bus schedule
4) A penlight
5) Two lighters, matches
6) Pens
7) Change for five dollars in pennys, nickels, dimes and quarters
8) Wine key
9) Crumber
10) Optional: cigarettes

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 21:41:44 No.4791936
>>4791919

If I had an urge to call someone an ethnic slur and think that they might get pissed about it *strange I know* I sure as fuck wouldn't have done it on something that had my NAME and my credit card information on it.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 21:45:38 No.4791944

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>>4791926
>I DO WHAT I WANT

lel

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 21:52:48 No.4791956
>>4791936
You asked
>Why in all of all things would you sign your name, to a receipt.

Which was a stupid question. I know in school they tell you there are no stupid questions, but they lied. I'm not disagreeing that the customer didn't write it, I'm saying your question, as to why a person would sign a credit card receipt (as is required) was a foolish one.

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Anonymous 2013-09-11 22:01:15 No.4791971
I work in a restaurant/cafe, where we don't wait on tables and just bring the food to people after they pay for it at the counter. It makes the process a hell of a lot more eficient and removes the point to tips. We can be polite and talk to the customers as well if it's not too busy.

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Porn Corporation 2013-09-11 22:01:48 No.4791974
>>4791867
> It's just nuts that they can work 2-3 tables and get paid just as much as strippers and doctors in one night.

Total bullshit, that is why they are all uppity cunts that deserve nothing.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 00:11:37 No.4792238
>>4790800
Yeah, no one has to do their job if they don't want to! And then they get fired.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 00:25:31 No.4792279
>>4791321
I wondered why the handwriting looked so different. First is obviously male, second female.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 00:25:32 No.4792280
>>4791971
Yeah, I don't really get the whole "waiter" thing. It is never worth more dollars to me to have to wait for a guy to come over before I can order my food.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 00:26:59 No.4792282
>>4791321
>garnish sympathy
You can tell because she wrote it in parsley.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 00:29:54 No.4792292
>>4791419
Damn Asians are smart. The restaurants with monkeys are even better. No talking, good service even without tip, and most likely smarter and better at the job. Waiters and servers are scum in the US.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 00:41:01 No.4792324
>>4791654
Especially the fact that being an attractive woman guarantees triple the tips of a average joe no matter how you perform.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 00:43:19 No.4792331
>>4791679
I do and never leave a tip for waiters. The cooks are easily the most gracious no matter what you give them and the teenagers that carried one plate and a drink to me for a total of 5 minutes give me the dirtiest looks. I relish it. Fuck those entitled cocksuckers.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 00:45:55 No.4792336
>>4791712
Bro fucking fist. That's the way it should be. Wait staff are generally the scum of the earth, cooks are some of the chilliest bros to hang and drink with. And they actually have skill to top it off.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 00:52:49 No.4792356
>>4790690
The manager can't be everywhere at once, and if they were standing within earshot of the server, that server would be watching their p's and q's

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 00:57:57 No.4792368
>>4790500
I too think it would be a really high increase because corporations would love to jump on the excuse to raise prices for profits while the servers get the blame. Just like the companies that are going to cut hours or health coverage under Obamacare... it gives them an excuse to turn that into profits while saying, "these people made us do it!"

But that's another thread.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 01:07:52 No.4792380
>>4790791
>one dollar then minus income tax the company has to pay on that dollar will equal around 50 cents
That's not how business taxes work. You deduct expenses from gross revenue, and then pay tax on that, minus other expenses.

Anyway, American business taxes aren't anywhere near 50%.

How the hell did you think this stuff worked? You buy something retail, and the government takes half, then the store pays the wholesaler, and the government takes half of that, then the wholesaler pays the manufacturer, and the government takes half of that?

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 01:09:31 No.4792382

[Missing image file: 220px-Steve_Buscemi_2009_(...).jpg]
I'm not your boss why should i pay you for doing your job?

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 01:09:44 No.4792384
>>4792380
Hand it to the cashier: government takes half.
Cashier moves it from one hand to the other: government takes half.
Cashier puts it in the register: government takes half.
Manager takes it out of the register: government takes half.
Manager gives it to the security guy: government takes half.
Security guy takes it to the bank: government takes half.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 01:13:01 No.4792391
>>4792380
>You deduct expenses from gross revenue, and then pay tax on that, minus other expenses.
Just to be clear: the waitress's wages are an expense.

The reason it would cost less to pay waitstaff minimum wage than it does in tips is that they pretty much all make more than minimum wage, usually by quite a bit.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 04:34:37 No.4792776
>>4790884
Neat, free meal. I wish I had the balls to do that because that's happened to me in different places multiple times. I'm always worried to get up and leave because what if I go back later and someone recognizes me as the guy who didn't pay his bill last time?

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 05:01:57 No.4792807
>>4792382
but you are. the whole premise of tipping is that they're working for you. You're bossing them around. you are in charge. You should have just as much power over how they get paid as some asshole in an office over the bar, counting his shekels.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 13:21:59 No.4793483
>>4792776
Similar vein my party was stopped before we could leave. Unfortunately for the waitstaff, I declared loudly within earshot of a manager that if they had no interest in taking payment we were happy to leave.

The manager was red-faced mad. Madder than I thought a human being would get over this.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 13:49:30 No.4793509
Income law, at least in America, is written with tips in mind. Waiters/waitresses are (the only?) jobs that can legally be paid less than minimum wage, because tips are assumed. If you refuse to tip you are depriving everyone who serves you of a portion of their wage. You can justify it in your head as an act of rebellion against the system itself, but all you are doing is ensuring that someone who does an incredibly stressful job gets underpaid. It's being an asshole and there's no way around it. Write a letter to your Congressman instead of being the only cocksucker willing to threaten someone's livelihood for the sake of making a point.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 13:58:55 No.4793515
>>4793509
I'm not responsible for other people's paychecks. I pay the restaurant for the food and the service and it's the restaurant's responsibility to pay its employees.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:07:19 No.4793524
>>4793509
>Waiters/waitresses are (the only?) jobs that can legally be paid less than minimum wage, because tips are assumed.
Only if the employer can prove that the waiter in question received enough tips to cover the difference.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:16:10 No.4793542
>>4793515
Society says you're obligated to pay a portion of the waiter's salary. If you don't tip them they make less than a livable wage. It really is your responsibility. Tipping is even mandatory in a lot of the world.

I'm not saying it's right, but it's assumed you will tip, and when you don't it's a financial loss for the waiter.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:20:08 No.4793549
>>4793542
>Tipping is even mandatory in a lot of the world.
It's not. Nowhere is tipping mandatory. Not even in America.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:21:47 No.4793552
>>4793549
unless you are in a party of six or greater at a lot of restaurants. then it is mandatory.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:22:36 No.4793554
>>4793542
>Society says you're obligated to pay a portion of the waiter's salary.
And you pay that portion by paying for the meal. A portion of the price of a restaurant meal goes towards paying the waiters' wages. Everything else is bullshit.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:25:50 No.4793559
>>4793549
I know in France at least there is always a mandatory "service charge" that acts as a tip. I think Japan does this as well. Interestingly, waiters in Japan will get embarrassed or even offended if you try to tip them.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:27:07 No.4793561
>>4793542
>Society says you're obligated to pay a portion of the waiter's salary.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:27:15 No.4793563
>>4793509
The law states that if the employee doesn't make up to minimum wage through their tips, their employer is required to top up their wages until they reach that amount.

It's not my responsibility to make sure they get paid. Tips are optional, they're rewards for doing particularly good service. You don't deserve a tip just for doing your job. Hell, you don't automatically deserve a tip at all, it comes down entirely to if the diners want to tip you or not. As I said, your employer is legally required to ensure you're paid minimum wage.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:27:43 No.4793564
>>4793542
>Society says you're obligated to pay a portion of the waiter's salary. If you don't tip them they make less than a livable wage. It really is your responsibility. Tipping is even mandatory in a lot of the world.
I'm more than sure there are people out there that are really this fucking brainwashed.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:28:24 No.4793566
>>4793542
>If you don't tip them they make less than a livable wage.

If you don't tip them and that causes them to make less than a livable wage, then their employer is breaking the law.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:28:54 No.4793569
>>4793552
I could never understand the logic behind that. How are two tables of three any less work than one table of six?

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:30:49 No.4793577
>>4793569
because the food at the table of six should all arrive at the same time

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:32:38 No.4793581
>>4793561
>>4793564
not that i disagree with him

but even in no-tip restaurants, in order to pay the workers a decent wage they would end up raising prices of everything slightly to afford it

if you give them money, part of that goes to paying their employees, so in a sense nothing he said is wrong. you are obligated to pay a bill, and part of that bill goes towards wages

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:32:49 No.4793583
>>4793569

It's more work to coordinate being served at the same time. The more people at the table the more of a pain it is. Though honestly that's besides the point.

I think the policy is simply there to prevent waiters from getting screwed when there is a large party who doesn't feel like tipping. Large parties are a larger distraction to the waiter--more glasses to fill, more orders to take, etc, (all at the same time), which can easily interfere with the watitron's ability to serve other tables. I'm sure the policy comes from someone saying "I'll be damned if I have to deal with that extra work, risk pissing off my smaller tables, all for no tip".

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:33:17 No.4793585
If restaurant owners are complaining about shitty margins then they should just up the prices or fuck off out of the business. Stop making it the customer's reliability to pay his employees' paychecks.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:37:49 No.4793593
>>4793561
>>4793563
>>4793564
>>4793566
I worked at a high-end restaurant for two years. Our boss gave us a flat rate of I think $4.50/hr, $3 less than minimum wage, on top of which tips were thrown. There wasn't a shit given as to whether or not it bumped us over the threshold, and in my case it never did because I was a busser and we were given a fraction of the night's tips, usually at the waiters' discretion, who would undercompensate us or underreport tips because they don't want to get fucked over and I don't exactly blame them. It would have been nice to know they were breaking the law.

I doubt this setup is uncommon.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:39:10 No.4793600
>>4793583
>I think the policy is simply there to prevent waiters from getting screwed when there is a large party who doesn't feel like tipping.
So if the party splits into two groups, they are more likely to tip? Or are they easier to serve? Less of a distraction? I don't get it.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:40:05 No.4793603
>>4793593
It's a stupid system and it's terrible that the waiters have to suffer from it but as long as you are dependent on the charity of others, those jobs are nothing more than legal slavery.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:41:15 No.4793606
>>4793593
>Our boss gave us a flat rate of I think $4.50/hr, $3 less than minimum wage, on top of which tips were thrown.
The problem is that a lot of people blame the customers for this, and defend the owner's right to do this.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 14:41:51 No.4793610
>>4793606
this

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 15:08:26 No.4793681
>>4791721

I've been to a bunch of places like that, you order at the counter, get a little buzzer, which buzzes when your food is done, and you collect it. They're usually bar restaurants though.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 15:18:00 No.4793703
>>4793559

I know a lot of places in the world do service charges or gratuity charges, which are calculated from your total and added at the end of your bill by the venue, it's not like tipping in America.

It is funny though, when Americans visit here and try to tip, not realising that they've already paid the service charge, which is basically tipping.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 15:22:49 No.4793712
>>4793559
>I know in France at least there is always a mandatory "service charge" that acts as a tip.
But it's fixed and doesn't act like a reward system. And you leave tips on top of it.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 15:38:23 No.4793735
>>4793606
>>4793610
The owners have every right to do it: It's the law.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 15:39:06 No.4793736
>>4793735
And I have every right not to tip, glad we cleared that up.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 15:39:35 No.4793738
Labour unions.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 15:42:50 No.4793748
>>4790490
Implement a service charge and disallow tipping. Donate tips to charity.
>But muh incentive
Tips are the reason for the tension between kitchen staff and service staff, and makes the waiter's job much more stressful. It would be like operating a store where your profits relied on the customers' following the convention that they pay double the advertised price of the product.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 15:44:38 No.4793753
>>4793735
>the owners have the right to not cover the difference up to a minimum wage
They don't.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 15:45:44 No.4793755
>>4793735
Not if it means their employees are making under minimum wage, they don't.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 15:47:59 No.4793757
>>4793753
>implying he said that

I was referring to the policy of paying waitstaff below minimum wage based on the assumption they would be receiving tips to cover.

They said he charged 4.50 plus tips. Every single server was making at least $3 in tips every hour. Of course if they didn't (which none of them did) the employer would be responsible.

Don't be dense.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 15:51:06 No.4793762
>>4793753
>>4793755
I can tell none of you have ever served in your life, you know how I know? Because every single server, even shitty ones at applebee's, makes more than minimum wage every shift in tips.

Pretty much every server I know supports this current system. The only people that bitch about it are people who don't like to tip in general. Quit acting like this is some crime against waitstaff; if anything it is more preferred than the alternative.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 15:51:43 No.4793763
>>4793757
>I was referring to the policy of paying waitstaff below minimum wage based on the assumption they would be receiving tips to cover.
There is no "assumption". "Assuming" is not enough. By law, financial records should show the amount of tips, and the wages should cover the difference. Saying "I assumed they were getting enough tips" does not justify underpaying the staff.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 15:54:28 No.4793768
>>4793762
And those people who don't like to tip in general have every right to do that. Because if they don't tip, and the waitstaff don't make minimum wage from their tips, their employer is legally obliged to top up their wages so they do.

The only people who stand to benefit from this absolute insistence on tipping are restaurant owners who can make extra profit by breaking the law and putting the blame on their customers.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 15:55:04 No.4793770
>>4793762
>Pretty much every server I know supports this current system. Quit acting like this is some crime against waitstaff; if anything it is more preferred than the alternative.
So what you're saying is that waiters are whiny entitled cunts. And I couldn't agree more.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:00:39 No.4793781
>>4793763
>>4793768
>>4793770

Jesus christ its like a dog chasing its tail with you people.

>implying servers are underpaid
>implying they don't make much more than minimum wage in a given pay period
>implying they don't prefer the current system
>implying you are the voice of disenfranchised servers

The system is the way it is because most of the waitstaff like it. Most shifts I would walk out with $100 cash in my pocket, claim the minimum amount to meet "minimum wage" and pocket the rest tax free.

There are no servers are starving in the streets, being "underpaid" by the big bad bossman. The fact that any of you think so shows how naive you are.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:04:21 No.4793783
>>4793781
>implying servers are underpaid
>implying they don't make much more than minimum wage in a given pay period
>implying they don't prefer the current system
Nope. I'm saying waiters are entitled little cunts that feel they deserve a special reward for doing the job they are already paid to do.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:07:40 No.4793790
>>4793781
I know. But, servers DO complain all the fucking time about people who don't tip them. I'm saying - they don't have a right to expect tips. If someone doesn't want to tip them, that's not a crime. Any claims they make of "but we don't get minimum wage without tips!" are bogus, because if they don't get minimum wage from their tips, their employer is legally required to top up their earnings to minimum wage.

Sure, this situation (i.e. servers not making minimum wage because of not enough tips) basically never happens. However, if all restaurant owners follow the law, it never will happen, so any whining about MUH BELOW MINIMUM WAGE is bullshit, and if you're seriously not making minimum wage, then you should report your employer to the police or something, not blame the customers.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:11:39 No.4793797
>>4793783
>>4793790
Oh I agree. Let them bitch, it doesn't affect me. I'm out the door by the time they look at the receipt

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:15:02 No.4793803
Now not only are we getting people who are complaining about no tips, they are complaining about low tips. Don't they know that tips are optional? They are lucky to be getting anything at all.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:18:44 No.4793805
>>4793803
Well duh. The convention is 20% for average service, 30% for above average, and 10% for bad service. Not leaving a tip means you're subhuman scum and deserve to be spat on.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:21:35 No.4793809
>>4793805
>10% for bad service

Why would I pay them extra for bad service?

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:23:26 No.4793813
>>4793790
>their employer is legally required to top up their earnings to minimum wage
implying this ever happens, the greedy employer would find an excuse or a loophole

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:23:54 No.4793814
>>4793809

Because it's not extra, its lower than expected.

Itt: Autists who don't understand social conventions and neckbeard shut-ins with crippling social anxiety who cannot into society.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:24:22 No.4793815
>>4793809
Because the so-called "customary" tipping is actually mandatory.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:24:40 No.4793816
>>4793805
30%? I'm a tipper and I have never heard that high of a number. 20% is usually the top, 15-18 is average.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:25:50 No.4793818
>>4793814
Obvious waiter detected. Cry more you little cunt.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:27:51 No.4793823
>>4793814
>lower than expected
>expected
You can't seriously expect a tip for crappy service.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:29:02 No.4793824
>>4793805
see
>>4793563

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:32:17 No.4793831
>>4793818

Cry? Not at all. Tips make it far easier to hide my income from the tax man. I'm laughing my way to the bank.


>>4793823
I don't. I'm simply explaining that a low-percentage tip is less than expected for normal service. Of course no tip is also less than expected for normal service. Either a low tip or no tip make perfect sense for crappy service.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:32:35 No.4793833
>>4790912

Sorry I can't afford to tip 25% all of the time.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:33:01 No.4793835
>>4793831
>Cry? Not at all.
You sure sound like you're crying to me.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:33:19 No.4793836
>>4793805
Entitled server detected. 15% is average.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:35:08 No.4793841
>>4793836
0% should be average. 15% should be good and poor service should have the manager tipped off

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:35:11 No.4793843
>>4793836
>15% is average.
15 years ago. It's 20% now. Read up.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:35:53 No.4793844
>>4793836
>Entitled

Do you even know what that word means? If you're trying to say that he thinks he's entitled to something when he's really not, you mean 'self-entitled'. Saying someone is entitled to something means they do in fact deserve it.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:36:50 No.4793849
>>4793835
That's because you're an idiotic moron with barely 2 brain cells to rub together.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:40:58 No.4793858
>>4791216
>middle class households struggling to get by on under 600,000$ a year

holy fuck this is stupid, shit, by your numbers, some of the surgeons I work with would be "middle class" even the nationally famous, book writing ones. average for middle class is about 45k per income in house, not 600k.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:41:09 No.4793859
>>4793849
>being this butthurt

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:43:37 No.4793868
>>4791216
It doesn't matter. You don't get to break the law because you think you're not earning enough.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:44:45 No.4793870
>>4793843
Read up on what? The conventions that whiny servers are trying to enforce to get more money out of people? Nope. 15%. Period. No argument. Be grateful I've been giving you fuckers anything at all.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:48:16 No.4793877
>>4793870
Keep rationalizing your crappy tips, you stingy poorfag fuck.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:52:17 No.4793885
>>4793877
With that kind of attitude, no wonder you're getting lousy tips.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:54:18 No.4793893
>>4793877
Your employer is required to top up your earnings to minimum wage if you don't make that from tips.

Stop whining. Tips aren't mandatory, they're a reward for good service.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 16:57:45 No.4793908
>>4793762

Applebee's is actually the most lucrative waiting job I know of. I don't know a single server that has made LESS than $1000 a week there.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 17:16:49 No.4793957
>>4790530
Since I don't feel like being a troll like these other assholes, I'd like to say I agree with you.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 17:21:01 No.4793963
>>4793893
>Tips aren't mandatory, they're a reward for good service.

100/10

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 17:21:27 No.4793965
>>4793908
what is the core demographic that goes to the applebee's you've seen? its all dark at mine

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 17:21:56 No.4793966
>>4793877
Maybe you should get a real job then, huh? Stop expecting tips and your mom to pay your bills. :)

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Racist Transethnic Transgender Lesbpano-Nubian Princess Anon 2013-09-12 17:30:18 No.4793990
Servers will never strive for a tip free workplace.

Never. They stand to lose too much.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 18:30:57 No.4794143
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip_(gratuity)#United_States

>A gratuity of 15 to 20 percent of the amount of a customer’s check is customary when good service is provided.[40]

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 18:37:12 No.4794158
>>4790490
Tipping is fucking retarded. If they work for tips they need a better job.

The only time you should ever tip is when you order something not on the menu, want an order altered that isn't on the menu, or cause a problem. All of that stuff is stuff the server does not normally have to deal with. So, you pay them a little extra for service that is beyond their normal duties.

Just getting served food isn't worth giving a tip. Ever.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 18:43:28 No.4794180
I don't really have a problem tipping servers, but I do think it's bullshit that you're supposed to tip valets, bellhops, haircuts, taxis etc. I guess the difference to me is that servers have to juggle multiple parties at the same time and still provide equal service to all, whereas my haircuts and taxi rides are not taking any extra effort out of that person's job. And taxi drivers sure as fuck do not try to earn it.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 18:44:43 No.4794185
>>4794180

You tip someone for providing a service. What are you, trash?

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 18:50:03 No.4794205
>>4794185
By that logic we should also have to tip people like repairmen and retail workers who go in the back to find our size when it's not on the shelf. It's inconsistent and it should be done away with. Food service is the only service that should be tipped, if any at all.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 18:50:53 No.4794208
I live in germany and tipping doesn't really exist.

The only time I ever tip is when I order pizza at like 1 AM

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 18:55:56 No.4794220
How do you go about tipping a cook if the meal was really good, but the service was crap? I feel like no matter how you go about it, you'd look like either an ass, or a weirdo, but I've wanted to do this several times.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 19:00:59 No.4794244
>>4794208
>tipping doesn't really exist in Germany
What's Trinkgeld then?

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 19:02:49 No.4794250
>>4794220
Tipping is intended for the server primarily. Any other staff gets a small fraction of it, so if you hated the service tip poorly. Maybe if you'd like to tip the chef directly you could talk to management about it.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 19:48:35 No.4794397
>>4794250
>if you hated the service
>tip
>don't demand a manager

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 19:57:51 No.4794421
>>4790490
How do black people deal with that shit? I would fucking lose it if I saw that.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 20:00:40 No.4794431
>>4794244
Something you give the restaurant if you feel like it. Doesn't go in the pockets of the service personnel anyway because the wage covers it.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 20:03:57 No.4794438
>>4794431
>Something you give the restaurant if you feel like it.
But that's what a tip should be. And you'll be more likely to give it if the service is good and the waiters are pleasant.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 20:16:48 No.4794468
>used to play poker for a living
>expected to tip the dealer at least $1 every time you win a hand. dealer makes $30+ an hour in tips alone.
>fuckthat.jpg
>jew staff realizes i'm not tipping
>floormen rule against me every time there's a dispute
>bullied back into tipping by this tactic

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 20:21:25 No.4794483
>>4794421

They submit like the slaves they are. If they don't like it they can hop on the next boat back to Africa.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 20:23:37 No.4794493
>>4794421
By being used to it.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 20:33:36 No.4794528
>>4794220
Ask to see the cook and tip him directly.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 22:13:35 No.4794756
>>4793600
The idea is that one person usually pays the bill for the whole party. If that guy doesn't feel like tipping the waiter gets very screwed.

Now if you have two parties and only one of them doesn't tip, thebwaiter gets less screwed.

It's a matter of averages basically.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 22:20:52 No.4794775
You guys do realize that waitstaff aren't the only people who get tipped for service, right? I've never understood the rage against waiters when so many other people in the service industry also get tips. It's not like this is anything new. Grow the fuck up.

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Anonymous 2013-09-12 22:33:56 No.4794798
>>4794775
Because this is a cooking board you jumped up fucker.
We talk about food related things.

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Anonymous 2013-09-13 00:46:25 No.4795089
Really? Are you that much of a Jew that you can't leave an extra few dollars?

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Anonymous 2013-09-13 00:47:33 No.4795095
You don't HAVE to leave a tip you know. Quit bitching about it.

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Anonymous 2013-09-13 00:55:47 No.4795121
>>4795089

Are you that much of a Jew that you need those extra shekles?

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Anonymous 2013-09-13 13:38:12 No.4796264
>>4790539
You sound awful

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Anonymous 2013-09-13 13:40:53 No.4796268
>>4795095
>You don't HAVE to leave a tip you know.
You do.

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Anonymous 2013-09-13 13:42:49 No.4796272
>>4796268
Only if you plan on returning.

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Anonymous 2013-09-13 13:43:01 No.4796273
>>4796268
Nope.

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Anonymous 2013-09-13 13:47:57 No.4796280

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> Total...NIGGER

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Anonymous 2013-09-13 13:59:55 No.4796289
>>4796268
Im playing the worlds smallest violin......for all you waiters.

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Anonymous 2013-09-13 14:01:01 No.4796293

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