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Anonymous 2015-06-28 20:32:08 No.2975292

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Anonymous 2015-06-28 20:44:52 No.2975294

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Anonymous 2015-06-28 20:46:58 No.2975295
this was in the last thread too but it's my #1 favorite so forgive me

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Anonymous 2015-06-28 22:14:15 No.2975297

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Anonymous 2015-06-28 22:35:17 No.2975299
I get unreasonably pissed off when artists draw Animeworu with pupils.

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Anonymous 2015-06-28 22:52:54 No.2975302

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Anonymous 2015-06-28 22:53:55 No.2975303

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Anonymous 2015-06-28 22:54:56 No.2975304

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Anonymous 2015-06-28 23:04:48 No.2975306
/cm/ Poll: What Eva character is your favorite who isn't Shinji or Kaworu? Doesn't have to be a boy.

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Anonymous 2015-06-28 23:06:21 No.2975308
>>2975306
I've always had a soft spot for Misato for whatever reason. I think she's the only female character besides Katsuragi that I actually care for.

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Anonymous 2015-06-28 23:08:54 No.2975309
>>2975306
Kensuke because he's cute.
Maya because she's cute.
The blue angular angel.
Aska Soaryou Langlee

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Anonymous 2015-06-28 23:09:08 No.2975310
>>2975306
I really like everyone, they're all great in their own ways. Because of that I could never understand the whole red vs. blue thing. If I had to choose a favorite maybe Misato or Ritsuko because of just how realistic they were.

>>2975308
Katsuragi is Misato you dumbass.

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Anonymous 2015-06-28 23:10:38 No.2975311
>>2975310
>Katsuragi is Misato you dumbass.
I meant Ritsuko, whoopsie doodle, I haven't heard her name since I watched Eva back in highschool.

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Anonymous 2015-06-28 23:12:51 No.2975313

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Anonymous 2015-06-28 23:20:44 No.2975316
>>2975297

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Anonymous 2015-06-28 23:48:59 No.2975318
>>2975306
If we're talking about the original series, Rei and Touji. In Rebuild, it's Misato.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 00:28:38 No.2975324
>>2975318
Why the hell would you like a shallow retarded bitch Rebuild Misato instead of the perfection that was the original Misato?

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 00:32:43 No.2975325
>>2975324
People like Asuka too, there's tastes for everything.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 00:38:24 No.2975327
>>2975324
At least Rebuild Misato doesn't offer comfort sex to 14 year olds

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 00:49:27 No.2975329
>>2975327
Isn't that allowed in Japan? It is in my country at least.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 01:17:34 No.2975336
>>2975306
Misato, Rei, Ritsuko, Kaji and Fuyutsuki in that order.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 01:18:40 No.2975337
>>2975324
I also like Misato from the original series, but I don't like many characters from the Rebuilds, so the lesser evil I guess?

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 01:51:59 No.2975349
>>2975327
/ss/ is toptier, Anon. Imbrace it.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 02:35:08 No.2975364
>>2975308
I don't think you like Misato as much as you say you do if you don't even know her last name.

Anyway, Kaji for me.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 02:37:58 No.2975366
>>2975325
People who like Asuka Sohryu are fine. But people who like Asuka Shikinami have shit tier taste. Even Rebuild Misato is better than Shittynami.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 03:10:01 No.2975371
>>2975366
Not that I like Shikinami, but I could never stand Soryu for the majority of the show. Her "comic relief" episodes were the worst episodes for me.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 03:28:19 No.2975373
>>2975306
Karl and Shaun are so radically different from Kaworu and Shinji that I can just name them, right?

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 03:58:26 No.2975383
>>2975306
Touji, or >>2975373

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 04:12:34 No.2975390
>>2975373
No.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 04:39:00 No.2975400
>>2975327
NGE Misato had flaws and acted realistically considering her past trauma. The comfort sex scene was a great way to illustrate that. What we have in 3.0 is just a complete bastardization of all of Rebuild Misato's possible potential. It's sad, really.

>>2975366
Seconding this. But I hope we can all agree nothing is worse than fucking Mari.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 05:05:39 No.2975402
>>2975310
Misato, most definitely. Then Rei I think.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 05:07:16 No.2975403
>>2975402
Woops, meant to quote >>2975306

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 05:08:06 No.2975404
>>2975310
Wish I could see things like you cause I find most of the characters unlikable

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 06:00:30 No.2975421
>>2975366
Asuka is my favorite female next to Maya but I honestly started liking Asuka a while after I watched Rebuild, Anime, and read (some of) the manga. I started liking her because I bought a two sided dakimakura with the best Rei pic I could find and Asuka was on the back but then I realized Asuka was prettier and I started liking her more in the manga.
I don't know if this qualifies me for even liking her since I don't actually like her I just think she's pretty.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 06:34:53 No.2975426
>>2975371
>"comic relief"
Beating up a psychologically fragile child and mercilessly bullying him cause his homemaking hobbies are disgustingly effeminate. Also would've outed him had they gone with the drafts.

That's got to be the blackest of black comic relief.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 11:43:43 No.2975441
>>2975364
>I don't think you like Misato as much as you say you do if you don't even know her last name.
The question was what characters I like besides Shinji and Kaworu, and after a big power gap, the next ones on the list are Misato and Ritsuko. Doesn't mean I like them that much, only that they are the ones to come after.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 13:01:47 No.2975443
>>2975400
>What we have in 3.0 is just a complete bastardization of all of Rebuild Misato's possible potential. It's sad, really.
She got older and harder, what did you expect? We don't know what Anno's planning with her so it's way too early to be saying something like that.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 13:03:22 No.2975444
>>2975421
>I realized Asuka was prettier and I started liking her more in the manga.
Why are you watching Eva?

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 13:04:26 No.2975445
>>2975426
You know Asuka is a psychologically fragile child too? Asuka went through worse shit as a child then Shinji.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 13:48:17 No.2975446
>>2975445
That doesn't justify her bullying though.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 13:56:26 No.2975447
>>2975446
I'll take bullying over strangling, the masturbation scene and wanting everyone on the earth to die. Asuka's still better than Shinji in a lot of ways, even with her trauma.

Asuka's just scared and comes at people to hid her own insecurities. She's all bite and no bark basically. Shinji's no bark but all bite.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 13:57:35 No.2975448
>>2975447
Meant to say Asuka's all bark and no bite, while Shinji's no bark but all bite.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 16:05:03 No.2975452
>>2975447
>Asuka's all bark and no bite

I'd say that's true for her manga counterpart but in the anime she slaps Rei and psychically abuses Shinji multiple times. Though the latter is presented as comedy. Idk if I was Shinji, I'd probably end up strangling her too.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 16:09:55 No.2975453
>>2975452
>Idk if I was Shinji, I'd probably end up strangling her too.
Fuck you.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 16:37:27 No.2975454
>>2975447
>I'll take bullying over
Comes all the way at the end of a show where he's been used as a child soldier the whole time and gotten steadily more damaged as time passes. Wrong as it is its nothing compared to what the real life child soldiers end up doing.

He'd been trying to kill himself since what happens to Kaworu if you go by the film, not a surprise a damaged child would do it and screw everyone else.

Never did those thing till and never would've if they hadn't utterly ruined his character, so compare that context to normal Asuka beating up and tormenting faggots.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 16:39:00 No.2975455
>>2975453
Seriously though, would you usually think of a homophic bully as a great person irl?

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 16:51:53 No.2975456
>>2975455
That's why manga Asuka is best Asuka. She still has the capacity to be a bro

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 17:26:51 No.2975459
>>2975456
Mainly because her defense mechanism runs more along the lines of being stuck up rather than being a bully.

The manga Shinji seems to have gotten all of her dickishness this time around.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 17:49:19 No.2975462
>>2975455
>homophic bully
Like I said, I'd take that over strangling, the masturbation scene and wanting everyone on the earth to die.

Don't use something that isn't in the tv series or movies to call Asuka homophobic. Drafts aren't canon and they were trashed for a reason.

>>2975454
>Comes all the way at the end of a show where he's been used as a child soldier the whole time and gotten steadily more damaged as time passes.
Asuka was already damaged by the beginning of the series. She's a child soldier too, with the added trauma of watching her dad cheat on the family, then watching her mom turn crazy then hang herself right in front of her face.

>He'd been trying to kill himself since what happens to Kaworu if you go by the film,
We're talking about the show. Shinji hasn't been trying to kill himself, in fact Anno said he doesn't care enough to.

Did you forget that EoE shows us that Shinji has been secretly viewing Asuka Rei and Misato as fuck dolls the entire time he's known them? Shinji isn't some pure faggot-baby infant.

>normal Asuka beating up and tormenting faggots.
Nice projecting.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 17:50:58 No.2975463
>>2975444
I like mecha fights

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 17:54:15 No.2975464
>>2975463
It didn't upload

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 18:29:56 No.2975465
>>2975453
>being an asukafag, and a touchy one at that
lel

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 19:34:59 No.2975479
>>2975462
>Did you forget that EoE shows us that Shinji has been secretly viewing Asuka Rei and Misato as fuck dolls the entire time he's known them? Shinji isn't some pure faggot-baby infant.

Nah, he only really saw Asuka as a fuck doll, and even then that was only after he had lost Kaworu (and pretty much the last few remnants of his sanity.) Shinji makes it pretty clear that he doesn't want to fuck Misato (even with her clear advances later on) or Rei (especially after her little secret is revealed.)

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 19:42:27 No.2975483
>>2975479
>Nah, he only really saw Asuka as a fuck doll
I think you need to watch Episode 20 and EOE again.

>and even then that was only after he had lost Kaworu (and pretty much the last few remnants of his sanity.)
Watch Episode 9. Then Episode 20.

>Shinji makes it pretty clear that he doesn't want to fuck Misato (even with her clear advances later on)
That's only after Rei died and he was grieving. Also, fantasizing =/= actually wanting to fuck. Shinji was fantasizing about Misato "Do you want to become one with me" for a long time, same with Asuka and Rei.

Glad there are still people trying to distort Shinji into a little pure baby for some reason.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 19:45:13 No.2975484
>>2975465
>being an asukafag
Nope. Nice try though.

You don't have to be an Asukafag to get mad at someone who says "I would've strangled Asuka too". That's not ok, there's nothing that separates you from an waifufag except the fact that you stan for Shinji or Kaworu and not the girls, and shit on all the other characters just like waifufags do.

You're cancer.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 19:47:12 No.2975485
>>2975484
>being this mad on top of being an asukafag
>being an asukafag in denial

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 19:47:24 No.2975486
>>2975462
Lets see, both of them are a mess to begin with but it comes down to a room mate who's guaranteed to be domestic and docile unless a lot of crazy murder and torture stuff goes down, or someone who's a violent bully the whole time.
> already damaged by the beginning of the series. She's a child soldier too, with the added trauma of watching her dad
And that's difrent from Shinji how? Mom vanishes and dad just throws him away. Got dragged into being child soldier without and has been seriously injured more than once by the time drops by.
>Shinji hasn't been trying to kill himself
EOE starting with him having tried to drown himself when it's made clear he can't swim says otherwise. He tried to drown himself after Kaworu.
>Shinji has been secretly viewing secretly viewing Asuka Rei and Misato
We're talking about the show, everything says you're wrong on those counts.

He reacted to Misato forcing herself on him with disgust and is terrified of Rei by this point and didn't see her that way to begin with. If anything Shinji's actually been the victim of sexual assault and violence up to that point. You say not to talk about stuff that isn't in the TV or movies, but you're willfully ignoring everything in the TV series for the sake of your argument.
>Don't use something that isn't in the tv series or movies to call Asuka homophobic
She torments a kid about how they're disgustingly effeminate and beats them up for no reason whatsoever.

That fits the bill. The fact they shifted chronology and she didn't get a chance to out him doesn't negate everything she did wouldn't count as homophobic bullying.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 19:50:54 No.2975487
>>2975483
>think you need to watch Episode 20
I see Misato force herself on him and that's pretty bad by all standards.
>Watch Episode 9.
Doesn't do anything in the least.
>That's only after
Prove it. You're just making up stuff to tell us that evidence directly contradicting isn't valid.
> trying to distort
It's weird that you'll tell us to ignore what happened in the show in favor of your headcannons while insisting that we're wrong to take the show as proof of Asuka being a violent bully in the best of times.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 20:14:00 No.2975494
>>2975487
>And that's difrent from Shinji how?

Let's see:

Shinji:
-Mom disappears from his sight, expect Shinji doesn't remember this or even remember what his mom looked like or how she died.
-Dad leaves him when he was young (This is bad, but it happens to a lot of kids. Hell, it happened to my best friend.)
-Lives an uneventful but normal life with his teacher
-That's it

Contrasted with Asuka
-Has been training with the Evangelion since she was a fetus
-Dad cheated on her mom while Asuka was there to watch
-Mom went psycho under Asuka's watch
-Mom actively rejects her for an inanimate object
-Mom killed herself in front of Asuka's face, something that Asuka vividly knows and remembers
-Continued training and synch tests her whole life

Don't try to make it like Shinji and Asuka are equal. Asuka's clearly the one with the worse life.

>Got dragged into being child soldier without and has been seriously injured more
All of this happened to Asuka. In fact if you study the show you know that Asuka has actually spent more time in the hospital from Angel attacks than Shinji.

>EOE starting with him having tried to drown himself when it's made clear he can't swim says otherwise. He tried to drown himself after Kaworu.
That's not true. The liner notes explicitly say that it's sweat, not water. That wasn't Shinji trying to commit suicide. Asuka tried to commit suicide, though.

>He reacted to Misato forcing herself on him with disgust and is terrified of Rei by this point and didn't see her that way to begin with. If anything Shinji's actually been the victim of sexual assault and violence up to that point.
For Gods sakes, are you selectively viewing Evangelion? Shinji has a whole montage about fantasizing about Asuka, Rei, and Misato as his personal fuckdolls in Episode 20 "Don't you want to become one with me?" He tries to kiss Asuka in her sleep in Episode 9. (Cont)

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 20:17:32 No.2975495
>>2975486
>>2975487
Meant to quote you as well.

(Cont.) He felt repelled by Misato in Episode 20 because he was grieving, but goes back to fantasizing about her in EoE in the train sequence.

>She torments a kid about how they're disgustingly effeminate and beats them up for no reason whatsoever.
Doesn't make her a homophobe. Shit. there are gay bears who torment guys about being effeminate all the fucking time.

>I see Misato force herself on him and that's pretty bad by all standards.
No one was talking about Misato.

>Episode 9 Doesn't do anything in the least.
Kek. What is Shinji trying to kiss Asuka in her sleep?

>Prove it. You're just making up stuff to tell us that evidence directly contradicting isn't valid.
Everything you said so far has been straight up wrong.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 20:23:37 No.2975498
First off, Shinji is a jerk and insane but he plays as the victim for sympathy or whatever. Him choking Asuka was an example how he isn't right and same with that weird line he says in the manga when asked if he could join some guys who wanted to befriend him. Asuka had a worse life and it's pretty obvious but she never became as negative as Shinji who was already losing screws because everyone in his family is crazy by default. Also, post more boys

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 20:24:21 No.2975499
>>2975483
Oh wow, he had typical teenage sexual fantasies. I'm sure he fantasized about wanting to fuck Kaworu too. Hell you might as well take it a step further and assume that Asuka, Rei and Misato all fantasized about Shinji in a similar light - which they did at some point. The turning point is when they actually act out on these desires without taking the other's thoughts into consideration.

Doesn't mean that he didn't respect or care for them, or didn't want to form bonds with them or purely saw them as fuck dolls and fuck dolls only. I would go as far to say that he treated Asuka rather well (better than she did with him) until Kaworu's death, which causes him to snap and masturbate right in front of her comatose body. He had respect for other people's boundaries, but Kaworu's death pushed him to his breaking point which led him to act out on pure carnal desires as a desperate means of a quick escape.

Shinji masturbates in front of Asuka after Kaworu's death for a reason. Asuka flirts with Shinji after Kaji's rejections for a reason. Misato puts sexual advances on Shinji after Kaji's death for a reason. Rei transfers her obedient nature to Shinji after learning that Gendo had been manipulating her for a reason.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 20:30:25 No.2975505
If you don't mind stopping the shitposting for a sec, could someone point me to the source of this? Google is being a shit as usual.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 20:34:10 No.2975506
>>2975499
>Hell you might as well take it a step further and assume that Asuka, Rei and Misato all fantasized about Shinji in a similar light - which they did at some point.
That's literally just headcanon. A case can be made for Asuka, but there's no evidence Misato and Rei were fantasizing about Shinji unless you really have mangled their characters in your head that hard.

>The turning point is when they actually act out on these desires without taking the other's thoughts into consideration.
Which is Shinji, attempting to kiss Asuka in her sleep, masturbating to her in her sleep, and then strangling her twice when she calls him out on it.

>Doesn't mean that he didn't respect or care for them, or didn't want to form bonds with them or purely saw them as fuck dolls and fuck dolls only.
He liked Rei and Misato (a little bit) that's really it. EoE reveals that he was disgusted with Misato and secretly found Asuka annoying the entire time he knew her.

>I would go as far to say that he treated Asuka rather well (better than she did with him)
You really need to watch the Asuka Shinji Kitchen sequence again.

>He had respect for other people's boundaries, but Kaworu's death pushed him to his breaking point which led him to act out on pure carnal desires as a desperate means of a quick escape.
No he didn't. Shinji was apathetic about acting on his desires but he has a track record of NOT respecting people's boundaries. Shinji's character doesn't start and end with Kaworu, for Gods sakes.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 20:35:11 No.2975507
>>2975498
Well said.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 20:48:00 No.2975511
>>2975506
He liked Rei and Misato (a little bit) that's really it. EoE reveals that he was disgusted with Misato and secretly found Asuka annoying the entire time he knew her.

No, he was disgusted by Misato's sexuality because it didn't mesh well with the motherly image that he cooked up in his mind.
As for Asuka, he initially found her annoying at first, but that clearly changes throughout the series.

>You really need to watch the Asuka Shinji Kitchen sequence again.

This takes place in instrumentality. When there are no more reality barriers and everyone's fucked-up inner selves after a shit ton of conflict, loss and turmoil are completely exposed in some shared dream-world. He never once choked her in reality. You are forgetting that Asuka pretty much pushed him into a fresh puddle of boiling-hot coffee beforehand as well?

>No he didn't. Shinji was apathetic about acting on his desires but he has a track record of NOT respecting people's boundaries.

He had a better track record than Misato or Asuka before Kaworu's death.

>Shinji's character doesn't start and end with Kaworu, for Gods sakes.

Of course not, but Kaworu's death was the absolute breaking point. Just as Kaji's death was for Misato and complete synchronization loss was for Asuka.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 20:55:15 No.2975517
People who idealize Eva's characters are retarded. They're all extremely flawed people who have their fair share of wrongdoings in the show. Just like how Asuka isn't a pure dindunuffin princess, Shinji is by no means innocent either. They selfishly use eachother just like any real person would, and that's what makes them so fantastic as characters. They fluctuate from a villain in one scene to a good guy in the next, so labeling any one character under good or bad is just retarded and shallow thinking. You're doing a complete disservice to the depth that these characters have. But I digress, back to posting cute boys.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 20:57:13 No.2975518
>>2975511
>As for Asuka, he initially found her annoying at first, but that clearly changes throughout the series.
You're right. It gets worse.

>This takes place in instrumentality. When there are no more reality barriers and everyone's fucked-up inner selves after a shit ton of conflict, loss and turmoil are completely exposed in some shared dream-world.
Their "fucked up inner selves" are their actual personalities after all the pretending and fakeness is dropped. That's the point of Eva.

>He never once choked her in reality.
Ok, now I know you don't know shit about Eva. Shinji choked Asuka in reality, at the end of EoE.

Again.

> You are forgetting that Asuka pretty much pushed him into a fresh puddle of boiling-hot coffee beforehand as well?
Are you forgetting why she did that? Because Shinji was pulling the whole Nice Guy shtick on her, and Asuka realized how bullshit it was.

>He had a better track record than Misato or Asuka before Kaworu's death.
No, he didn't. Your delusion is getting laughable at this point. Asuka doesn't hit Shinji or come onto his space and Misato did it once. Shinji did it more than once.

>Of course not, but Kaworu's death was the absolute breaking point.
You're acting like Kaworu's death created a bunch of character traits that Shinji didn't have beforehand, which is just not true. Kaworu's death exacerbated traits that Shinji always had bubbling under the surface.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 20:58:03 No.2975519
>>2975517
Of course, it's stupid to idealize any character in eva. But like (most) real people, they all have their highs and lows of moral behavior. Shinji is probably one of the most self-absorbed characters in the series, for one example.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 21:13:04 No.2975522
>>2975505
Pretty please?

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 21:14:53 No.2975524
>>2975518
>Their "fucked up inner selves" are their actual personalities after all the pretending and fakeness is dropped. That's the point of Eva.

Yes, and it's also their real selves after a bunch of personal traumatic shit had happened to them. What we're seeing is their real selves post-breaking point.


>Ok, now I know you don't know shit about Eva. Shinji choked Asuka in reality, at the end of EoE.

Yes, at the very end of the entirety of NGE and EOE. At that point of time he didn't even know if he was still in reality anymore. After Asuka strokes his cheek (rather than just taking it like it is in instrumentality,) he stops. The choking was indeed awful, but was his way of identifying a reality check.

>Are you forgetting why she did that? Because Shinji was pulling the whole Nice Guy shtick on her, and Asuka realized how bullshit it was.

I can't deny that. Regardless, she is the one who got physical first by chocking him into a broken pot of hot coffee.

>Kaworu's death exacerbated traits that Shinji always had bubbling under the surface.

Yes, that's what leads to breaking points? Lots of pent-up distress, depression, sadness, frustration, anger and build up? Once again, Kaworu's death was the breaking point for that.

I guess if I had to sum up Shinji's shitty behavior, he generally plays the nice guy until he reaches a breaking point and goes completely apeshit in violent, aggressive and selfish fits. Meanwhile Asuka uses physical and verbal abuse on others to hide her inner turmoil on frequent occassions, but at her breaking points she isolates herself completely (remember, she admitted she wanted nothing to do with Shinji or others during the kitchen instrumentality sequence, she basically wanted to reject all contact in order to "love herself" more.)

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 21:15:03 No.2975525
>>2975522
I've been trying to find it for the past 10 minutes but to no avail. Sorry, Anon. If I'm not back in 20 minutes, it doesn't exist on the internet.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 21:15:54 No.2975526
>>2975525
Godspeed.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 21:29:37 No.2975527
>>2975526
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=40368995
Got it

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 21:30:19 No.2975528
>>2975527
Based.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 21:31:58 No.2975529
>>2975527
And then part two I think? http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=38316674

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 21:57:03 No.2975536
>>2975524
>The choking was indeed awful, but was his way of identifying a reality check.
Anno could have written in anything to indicate that Shinji was trying to identify reality. He had him choke Asuka again for a reason.

It's inverting their original characters just like Eva does all the time: Shinji is bite and no bark, while Asuka actually turns out to be bark and no bite.

>I can't deny that. Regardless, she is the one who got physical first by chocking him into a broken pot of hot coffee.
Really? You're pulling the "She started it!" thing? Shoving isn't near comparable with strangling to death.

>Lots of pent-up distress, depression, sadness, frustration, anger and build up?
That's not underlying character traits, that's things that exacerbate character traits and makes them worse.

Shinji's underlying traits: using others for his gratification, objectifying people sexually, violence and lashing out -- this is hidden for the most part like you said, behind him "playing the nice guy"

>Meanwhile Asuka uses physical and verbal abuse on others
Verbal abuse yeah, but honestly Asuka's "physical abuse" is pretty fucking tame and isn't consistent enough to be considered a trait or as a regular thing. Shoving, etc isn't really abuse unless it's a pervasive habit and I peg Shinji more as the violent type.

Asuka resorts to stroking Shinji's face for a reason.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 22:14:04 No.2975538
So to break up the meta talk, I have a sudden and stupid question regarding that shitty Anima visual novel Eve talk and if anyone could provide a translation or accurate information about a certain element then that would be great.

Is unit 01 really revealed to be Shinji's true body like how Adam's embryo was for Kaworu, or was it really just sort passed over to him as a sort of secondary hand me down? /cm/ says it's the former, but how can this be the case when unit 01 is just a clone of Lilith, which was Rei's original body?

This either means giant retcons or a giant mistranslation. So it has to be the second option. I'm asking this because it was a plot hole contradiction I figured out last night.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 22:29:16 No.2975541
>>2975538
Based on the discussion from 2ch, it's said Shinji has Adam/Kaworu's rib, and that's the reason why he can merge with unit 01. Not sure about the original body thing, but perhaps it's following different rules from NGE despite taking place a few years after.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 22:56:28 No.2975543
>>2975519
>Shinji is probably one of the most self-absorbed characters in the series
How so?

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 22:57:42 No.2975544
>>2975543
He does most things for the sake of himself getting gratitude or for the sake of someone else who's already dead.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 23:11:21 No.2975551
>>2975494
>-Mom disappears
>-Dad leaves him
I can't see how both your parrents disappearing and being left an orphan is any better. His relatives sure didn't treat him well in the manga.
>>2975506
>no evidence Misato
She sexually assaulted him. You've got to be pulling some crazy logic to pretend that didn't happen.
>there are gay bears who torment guys about being effeminate
They're assholes and that still counts as homophobia.

And at any rate there was no excuse for being physically abusive. Shinji didn't do anything like that in the TV show.
>No, he was disgusted by Misato's sexuality because it didn't mesh well with the motherly image
"Everything you said so far has been straight up wrong."

You just pulled that out of nowhere, seriously.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 23:15:10 No.2975552
>>2975544
So piloting to keep that half dead pilot you see from dying is selfish, sure.
>>2975494
>Asuka has actually spent more time in the hospital
You can prove that, right? By the time she gets there, Shinji's already had his heart stop/been tossed into an iron lung from one of the injuries.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 23:16:59 No.2975553
>>2975552
Emphasis on the word "most in my post.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 23:22:41 No.2975554
>>2975543
How can you even ask this question? Didn't you watch the show?

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 23:30:35 No.2975555
>>2975551
>I can't see how both your parrents disappearing and being left an orphan is any better. His relatives sure didn't treat him well in the manga.
The manga doesn't count. We're talking about the show.
What happened to Shinji (Mom and Dad leaving) happened to Asuka on a 100x worse level. Plus, Asuka has the luxury of remembering every single detail.

>She sexually assaulted him. You've got to be pulling some crazy logic to pretend that didn't happen.
Are you retarded? Misato didn't sexually assault Shinji because she was secretly fantasizing about his cock. You have to be Evageekfag delusional while ignoring all of Misato's development to believe that.

>They're assholes and that still counts as homophobia.
I'm fucking shocked by your stupidity right now.

Effeminate =/= homosexual. Asuka disliking Shinji's less masculine features doesn't mean she's automatically homophobic because then you're under the assumption effeminate guys are all gay. Fact of the matter is Asuka in the show has no idea Shinji's bi and doesn't even know Kaworu exists.

And honestly? Asuka doesn't even attack Shinji's effeminacy that much and you're exaggerating it to a retarded degree. Shinji hears more "grow up and be a man" shit from Misato.

>And at any rate there was no excuse for being physically abusive.Shinji didn't do anything like that in the TV show.
Asuka wasn't really psychically abusive. And yes, you idiot, Shinji is revealed to actually be violent. The strangling? Twice? Read this >>2975536

>You just pulled that out of nowhere, seriously.
Every reply shows me you haven't been paying any attention.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 23:39:28 No.2975556
>>2975519
Right after Asuka.

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Anonymous 2015-06-29 23:57:22 No.2975557
>>2975505
It's one of Meco's. She drew a lot of comics set in the mangaverse, many of them have been translated.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 00:01:09 No.2975559

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 00:14:04 No.2975560
>>2975555
>What happened to Shinji (Mom and Dad leaving) happened to Asuka on a 100x worse level
Not him but you're forgetting Asuka has a stepmother who has been shown to treat her well enough, growing up to her teenage years in Germany with parental figures and friends who gave her attention and affection. Shinji had no such figures in his life, he life up to this point has been completely devoid of love whatsoever.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 00:25:18 No.2975562
>>2975560
>Shinji had no such figures in his life, he life up to this point has been completely devoid of love whatsoever.
Oh shut up. There's no evidence that Shinji's teacher treated him badly in the show. Shinji never heard the words I love you, and Asuka probably didn't either.

>Not him but you're forgetting Asuka has a stepmother who has been shown to treat her well enough,
Asuka's stepmother is a parallel to Shinji's teacher. Both step ins that are distant but friendly enough who don't make their pain any less.

>growing up to her teenage years in Germany with parental figures and friends who gave her attention
Stop pulling shit out of her ass. Asuka doesn't speak of friends and had no paternal figures that aren't her stepmother. She definitely didn't get "attention and love". Kaji was new and Shinji has Misato to match that. Misato cared for Shinji a lot more than she cared for Asuka, and Kaji ignored Asuka and dropped her ass off at Misato's the soonest chance he got.

Only a crazy person would argue Shinji had a harder background than Asuka. The fact that he violently snapped the way he did while Asuka for the most part kept it to her damn self is saying something.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 00:28:33 No.2975563
Please guys, stop. It's not like one side of the debate will convince the other that one or the other character is shit or not, or who is more miserable or whatever pissing contest is taking place here.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 00:33:17 No.2975564
>>2975555
>happened to Asuka on a 100x worse level
They both became orphaned, same thing. Head cannons, about how they're quantitative a hundred times apart sure don't make sense when they both had the same end results.
>sexually assault Shinji
That's all that matters. You're grasping for straws when you say it's all okay because whatever headcanons people have about the mens-rea.
>I'm fucking shocked by your stupidity right now.
Please, all the guys bulling effeminate twinks insist they're better cause they're "straight acting". People do link effeminate with that and they will use that when deciding who to pick on, just look at schools.

I don't think you know what you're talking about.
>Asuka wasn't really psychically abusive
Kicking someone down, or punching them isn't physically abusive, sure. Does it all the time, just look at episode 9 like you said.

The unprovoked beating of someone is cool cause it's a character you like. Great logic.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 00:33:57 No.2975565
>>2975538
>how can this be the case when unit 01 is just a clone of Lilith, which was Rei's original body?
Depends on the work in question. While that was the case in NGE, it's been strongly implied more than once in Rebuild that it's Adam-based instead for instance.
So I'm guessing Anima could be like that, I mean all the crazy stuff it added means it pretty much has different mechanics than NGE already.

>>2975541
>perhaps it's following different rules from NGE despite taking place a few years after
Basically this but apparently Anima is said to take place in an "alternate future" of NGE, it's still more a separate canon rather than an extension. There's clear differences to the original like how Kaji doesn't die.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 00:47:17 No.2975566
>>2975564
>They both became orphaned, same thing.
It's not the same thing, you idiot. Say two people lose their parents: one loses their parents to peaceful old age, and the other watches them brutally murdered in front of their eyes. Would you dismiss claims that the second person had it worse because "the end result was the same?"

Try a little harder.

>That's all that matters. You're grasping for straws when you say it's all okay because whatever headcanons people have about the mens-rea.
You claimed that Misato sexually assaulted Shinji because she was fantasizing about him. I debunked that stupid notion. I'm not making any claims about if she was right in sexually assaulting him, you're just making strawmens out of everything I say because you can't follow this argument.

>Please, all the guys bulling effeminate twinks insist they're better cause they're "straight acting".
You are projecting so hard right now. Whats happens in real life doesn't translate to fiction: Asuka doesn't know that Shinji is bi and she doesn't know about Kaworu. Everyone (not just Asuka) pressures Shinji to be a man because of Japanese gender roles, not "homophobia". You sound delusional.

>Kicking someone down, or punching them isn't physically abusive, sure. Does it all the time, just look at episode 9 like you said.
If you really count Asuka hitting Shinji as comic relief after she figured out that he was TRYING TO KISS HER IN HER SLEEP "physical abuse", I don't even know what to tell you.

>The unprovoked beating of someone is cool cause it's a character you like
It wasn't unprovoked, you autist. When was the last time you actually watched the show? Or are you just insane?

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 00:47:26 No.2975567
lel. Didn't know fujoshi were so huffy about Asuka, clearly best character in show.

>Kaworu dies and stays dead
>Asuka and Shinji crawl out of LCL
>Move in together
>Shinji becomes battered housewife
>Asuka beats him up and pegs him nightly
>Sure, they fight a lot, but the sex is great

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 00:48:52 No.2975568
>>2975565
>more a separate canon
Didn't Yamashita say it ties into Q.

For all we know Adam and Eve might have been the ones who created the Rebuild earth. That would explain the weird stuff that goes on when you have both of them together.
>Adam-based
And if Shinji's a lost part of Adam's soul, then it makes sense that he can use Unit-01 like an extension of his body.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 00:59:28 No.2975569
>>2975567
Would Shinji be more of a spiral texture guy or would he it like it ribbed like Gendo's cock?

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:02:34 No.2975571
>>2975566
>the other watches them
Get eaten by that Giant machine and then have daddy tell him he isn't wanted. Not gonna be much better.
>Whats happens in real life
You brought it up first, just said your example doesn't work. I don't think bullying the person who's feeding you and cleaning because they're effeminate is a noble thing at any rate. Besides she would out him if given the chance.
>after
Actually, beat him before. You got too carried away and forgot the order of the episode.
>you idiot...stupid...Autist
Asuka-anon pls. You can use all the pathos you want, it won't change what happened.
>>2975567
>huffy about Asuka
Actually, I like her. Just saying that she -and shinji- aren't the saints people might make them out to be and Shinji sure isn't the monster some people say he is.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:05:06 No.2975572
>>2975567
>>Asuka beats him up and pegs him nightly
Only way she could get Shinji and his vestigal toothpick off.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:08:03 No.2975573
>>2975569
Ew, Shinji doesn't want to get fucked by his dad. He's not some kind of weirdo. He wants to get fucked by his mom, like a normal kid.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:09:44 No.2975574
Can we go back to post cute pics of anime boys now?

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:12:53 No.2975575
>>2975573
>implying Shinji wouldn't have taken Big G's D had he been given the chance
Anon pls

Nobody said that Shinji was being strictly monogamous here anyhow.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:13:51 No.2975576
>>2975571
>Get eaten by that Giant machine and then have daddy tell him he isn't wanted. Not gonna be much better.
He doesn't remember how Yui died or even remember Yui's face.

Contrast that with Asuka, who remembers Kyoto's abuse, saw her lose her mind, and saw and remembers her dead hanging body in front of her.

>Besides she would out him if given the chance.
Why are you using baseless head canon as evidence about Asuka's character. Fuck out of here if you're going to keep doing this.

>doesn't work. I don't think bullying the person who's feeding you and cleaning because they're effeminate is a noble thing at any rate.
You're totally exaggerating how much Asuka complains about this. This doesn't not mark Shinji and Asuka's relationship.

If you honestly use Asuka comically hitting Shinji harem-anime style as abuse, but you don't make any mention of Shinji actually trying to KILL Asuka after she calls him out on his Nice Guy Shtick, newsflash - you're an idiot.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:17:40 No.2975577
>>2975567
Shiki is a lesbian tho

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:19:09 No.2975578
>>2975572
>You will never come home to housewife Shinji, spank him for adding too much salt to dinner, then bone him until his sobs turn into moans.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:19:47 No.2975579
>>2975569
Whatever Kaworu's dick texture is like I guess.

>>2975574

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:20:29 No.2975580
>>2975578
Forgot pic

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:21:09 No.2975581

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:22:25 No.2975582

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:23:33 No.2975583

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:25:11 No.2975584

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:25:14 No.2975585
>>2975573
Incidentally, did the plug suits always go this far up the character's butts?

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:26:39 No.2975586
>>2975585
Of course.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:31:09 No.2975587
>>2975586
Good lord. Think of the anus chafe.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:32:12 No.2975588
>>2975587
I think about it all the time.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:33:39 No.2975589
>>2975585
New rib suit seems to show off his figure better.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:43:10 No.2975590
>try to bring some nice discussion into the thread
>quickly turns into a salty waifuwar bitchfight
Nice.
Anyways, I'm planning on uploading a few Kawoshin doujinshi I've scanned recently. Do you guys prefer sadpanda or mediafire? Or should I do both?

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:44:13 No.2975591
>>2975590
>try to bring some nice discussion into the thread
If you know this thread, you should have known this would inevitably be a shit idea.
I prefer sadpanda personally.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:44:47 No.2975592
>>2975590
why wouldn't you use mega?

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:47:40 No.2975593
>>2975590
>nice discussion
>/cm/

Oh you.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:49:20 No.2975594
>>2975590
Out of the two I prefer mediafire. Thank you anon

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 01:52:07 No.2975595
>>2975541
There's a point when 2deep4u becomes completely ridiculous, and this is it.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 02:01:14 No.2975597
>>2975592
Is mega supposed to be better?

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 02:09:55 No.2975598
>>2975595
>Best waifu being able to fill the world with countless new species if you get em pregnant ridiculous
Wat

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 02:27:37 No.2975599
>>2975590
I'd prefer Mediafire but both are fine. Thanks, anon!

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 02:41:51 No.2975604
>>2975306
Asuka because her character is the best in my opinion.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 02:55:53 No.2975611
>>2975306
Definitely Rei, I like her personality.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 03:07:20 No.2975619
>>2975594
You get more free storage space with mega.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 04:09:27 No.2975629
>>2975595
How is a translation from a book approved by Anno in any way 2deep4u ridiculousness?

Are you forgetting that Rebuild Shinji
>awakens evas based off his emotional state
>supposedly awakened himself as claimed by Kaworu after 1.11
>was the second impact trigger responsible for fourth impact along with Kaworu, as stated by Mari
>created new types of life forms depending on the impact he triggered, which was the case of the failures of infinity from the third true impact that happened during the time skip
>fully merged with eva unit 1 during 2.22, to the point where it was essentially his new body
>can co-pilot an eva with Kaworu, despite Kaworu being an angel
>is now the primary trigger over previous triggers like unit 01 and Rei as of 3.0
>has a core in the anima expo short
>is given a detonation choker around his neck called the Deification Shutdown System choker

Anima's Shinji wasn't human and neither is Rebuild's Shinji.

>>2975568
>For all we know Adam and Eve might have been the ones who created the Rebuild earth. That would explain the weird stuff that goes on when you have both of them together.

That's basically what they're setting it up to be, yeah.

>And if Shinji's a lost part of Adam's soul, then it makes sense that he can use Unit-01 like an extension of his body.

On the other hand, this doesn't make sense because unit 01 is a clone of Lilith in Anima. In other words, not really related to Adam in any way, so Shinji shouldn't be able to merge with it so easily.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 04:31:14 No.2975636
>>2975629
>approved by Anno
Just because it's 'canon' doesn't make it any less retarded, same with Rebuild.

Remember when Evangelion was about a boy learning to love himself and others?
Instead of the 2deep4u sci-fi bullshit playing secondary to the story like it used to, it now IS the story; and the characters suffer because of it. Good fucking going, Anno.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 04:40:53 No.2975642
>>2975636
I like the show better when the exposition is "it's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit."

(Also, where is my fujo pandering comic parody where all the pilots are boys?)

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 04:42:44 No.2975645
>>2975636
>boy learning to love himself and others?
That boy grew up to become a godling.

It still has the acceptance theme because Shinji's feminine, nurturing traits are exactly what humanity needs to survive.

Kotani said the original EVA had that theme too, it's just gone explicit for the films.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 05:46:21 No.2975654
>>2975636
>Remember when Evangelion was about a boy learning to love himself and others?

Yes, and those are fairly adolescent themes.

From the evidence I've gathered, Rebuild is building up to be the next chapter in Shinji's growing-up story, which is the transition of adolescence into adulthood.

Whereas the original show was about Shinji learning let go of his mother, sexual exploration and confusion, setting personal boundaries and attempting to understand others through an equal light, Rebuild is all about pressuring Shinji to take responsibility for his actions, an increased focus on his true, caring and maternal nature with others, and how the state of the world and the people he loves literally rests on his shoulders; entirely at his control.

It's no longer about a boy saving the world from certain destruction. Rei is no longer the distant, slightly sexualized maternal figure and the impact trigger for all of humanity. Yui's importance as Eva unit 1 is almost nonexistant in Rebuild. Instead, Shinji himself is now the impact trigger and the one who raises Rei in a daughterly fashion. Instead, he is now the one who is successfully merging with Eva unit 01 and rescuing Rei and Asuka from a certain fate in the process. The sexual tension between Misato and Asuka is largely gone in favor for an increased romantic focus on Kaworu (and perhaps to a further extent, Rei - depending on where they take her development in the next movie.)

And now the old and dying world he was taught to save as an adolescent is being reborn anew, into a new world where everyone on the planet is about to become his literal core-children once fourth impact is completely successful.

Hell, the initial name for 3.0 was quickening. And the term quickening relates to a later stage in pregnancy, where the fetus begins to move and kick. If that isn't an obvious shout out to parental/maternal themes and character development, then I don't know what is.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 06:20:14 No.2975662
>>2975329
I think it's allowed by countrywide law but many prefectural laws put the age of consent higher (18 in Tokyo). So it's effectively illegal in most areas to have sex with a 14-year-old. That said I don't know to what degree it's enforced, particularly in cases of a woman and a teen boy.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 09:16:20 No.2975671

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 09:40:21 No.2975673
>>2975654
>and perhaps to a further extent, Rei - depending on where they take her development in the next movie

Probably not going to go anywhere since he knows she's his mom's clone

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 10:09:46 No.2975674
>>2975673
>>>2975654
>>and perhaps to a further extent, Rei - depending on where they take her development in the next movie
>Probably not going to go anywhere since he knows she's his mom's clone
>>2975673
B...but there is no other Ayanami according to the Shinji.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 11:21:32 No.2975677
>>2975674
>implying incest end

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 11:33:34 No.2975682
>>2975306
1. Shinji
2. Mistato
3. Touji

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 11:54:57 No.2975684
>>2975673
>>2975674
The movies make it pretty clear that Kaworu and Rei are the only ones that Rebuild Shinji has an obvious romantic-sexual thing for. Though I guess the latter is debatable since it could be interpreted as a platonic, parental or sibling sort of love, and of course the whole mom-clone issue.
But the point is that most adults figure out their sexuality and eventually start looking for a compatible partner they want to spend their lives with; make and raise children with... And they've sort of done such in Rebuild by flat-out limiting Shinji's romantic options down to one person (or possibly two.)

Misato has been out of the question from the very start (though she wasn't even viable in the anime,) and Asuka was completely pushed out of the picture - even when she put out in 2.0, like jumping into his bed completely awake with only some sparse nightwear on for one example. There's only one movie left to go and rushing romantic undertones or a romantic relationship between the two after a 14-year split would come off as very artificial, even moreso when there are clear hints everywhere that she is overtaking Misato's role for the next film.

Meanwhile the piano duets are there to demonstrate perfect 'compatibility' with Kaworu, and that the two of them were planning to "repair" the post-impact world of developing core-fetus evas together with the use of a single co-piloted eva that was deeply rooted in Adam&Eve and Adam Kadmon symbolism. With Rei, you had Shinji practically going berserk mode to save her and and the two of them merging together inside Eva 01 in 2.22, which would've likely led to a similar impact of humans-turned-corified-eva fetuses if Kaworu hadn't intervened.

You can say it's all over-analyzation, but IMO it's hard to trash all of this as ridiculous fan speculation when so many narrative, symbolic and thematic elements are overflowing with some weirdly sexual, parental and maternal sort of shit.

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 12:38:00 No.2975685
>>2975642
>(Also, where is my fujo pandering comic parody where all the pilots are boys?)
The only artist that does them is pretty shit at drawing

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Anonymous 2015-06-30 12:51:10 No.2975686
>>2975684
>elements are overflowing with some weirdly sexual, parental and maternal sort of shit.
It could mean anything. There are people in Japan who take it to mean that Misato has a child for example. Don't jump the gun and wait.







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