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Anonymous 2014-10-01 22:15:00 No.705403

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>Fucking horror stories.
God damn. Just got home, was talking with my boss and his boss, and they told me this story about sick building syndrome. I'm not going into any details about the location or names. The scary part is, even googling the info brings up nothing.
>16 years ago. A large school district had 2 identical buildings built, each shaped like an asterisk but with 8 halls instead of 6.
First building took longer than expected, wayy longer. They missed every deadline but said fuck it, we'll make it up on the second.
>They had to be ready for the new school year.
They get both done on time. They move everything in, get teachers in and then eventually students. A few months go by and quite a few people are sick in the district. It gets worse and worse but they somehow limp to December and get the winter break. At this point, 3 kids have serious staph infections. It looked like 2 of the kids were going to die, so the district launched a major investigation. They looked at sick records and shit like that, figured out kids and teachers going to the rushed building had accounted for 90% of the records. All the staph infections came from this building.
They hire a team from a good engineering school in the state and they start looking at it, and do some preliminary testing. The air is insanely bad. They leave and come back with respirators.


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Anonymous 2014-10-01 22:28:04 No.705405
Horror stories? Well MRSA is a fucking bacteria, do you understand how bacteria is spread? It's not like it showed up in a mold and everyone who breathed it got it.

Don't bother reading about drug resistant bacteria outbreaks in hospitals. FFS, I worked facilities at one of the largest hospitals (sq. footage, beds, profit, etc.) in the U.S. and we had a listeria outbreak in the water pipes. Shit happens.

I don't see any correlation between setbacks in construction and sick building syndrome anymore than I do with the MRSA cases. A million in one reasons for sick building syndrome cases.

There is a reason every apartment complex lease tells you to open your windows twice a year for X amount of hours.

This thread is fucking stupid.

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Anonymous 2014-10-01 22:30:02 No.705406
>>705403
At this point, they have to sign some NDAs and have to drive unmarked vehicles provided by the district. The early 90's had a ton of lawsuits for everyone involved and neither party wanted to risk it.
They do some testing to check and see whats happening with outside air and exhaust. The building had a large ducted exhaust fan in each hall with taps hitting each restroom and mech rooms.
The ductwork was never finished, the taps were never finished and manual dampers were closed. Ductwork had been crushed by suction in every section or pulled the damper in. The air still would of been sucked out if the building had been pressurized.
IF. Somewhere, someone got the bright idea to disconnect linkage going to OA and RA dampers, leaving it full RA all the time.
The engineers figure its an easy fix, they get a seperate mechanical company from across the state(NDAs, unmarked vehicles, and now hazmat suits for all) involved to fix and finish ductwork, and a controls company, in the same manner, to assist in fixing the ventilation problems. If you have previously had staph, you are not allowed to work here.
They also remove everything that can be removed, including chalk boards, ceiling grid, light fixtures and furniture, wrap it in plastic, send it in large unmarked 18 wheelers to a place where they put them in 175F environments for a few hours, and then set them in a warehouse. Carpet and ceiling tiles are incinerated.
This process isn't done before school needs to start back up, so they shuffle everyone elsewhere.
They get all the fixes in and then try to cook the building. They get it up to around 120F for a week using pure OA.
Engineers come back in to retest, and found its made essentially no difference.

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Anonymous 2014-10-01 22:34:31 No.705410
>>705406

I'm sorry, are you suggesting the HVAC system harbored and spread MRSA?

Ha..haha..hahahahahaha.

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Strudel 2014-10-01 22:45:06 No.705411
>>705406

Then what?

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Anonymous 2014-10-01 22:51:33 No.705417
>>705406
>Kids have pulled through for a total of zero deaths. District actually covers it up and says something about recess and kids spreading it.
School is closed due to mechanical problems.
So, they start digging into the foundation and found it dripping wet. They analyze all the shit and find they didn't lay lime when they were pouring. They take samples across the whole building's pad and find the same thing, its been wicking up water into the block walls like crazy. Everywhere in it.
>The walls were filled block btw.
They then start taking some samples inside of interior block walls. After ripping plaster and shit off wall, they see moisture already. They take a few wall cores and find nothing too surprising, then they hit a wall at the bottom brick and black fetid water spills out. Huge amount of it. Just mold and water.
They try another wall at the base of one of the perimeter walls. Same thing.
Turns out the day they were pouring the fill, it was raining. The cheap ass laborers said fuck it and poured on top the rainwater and they expected it would just mix.
It didn't mix. It just made a partial cavity and was kept full by foundation wick. The blocks were wet, the fill was wet, all wall coverings had been torn out and incinerated.
After analyzing everything, they gave the building a useful life of 3-4 years more. At that point the red iron would be eaten away by the mold and the structure would start to collapse.


>The district then used the building as a warehouse for 2 years for random shit like desks and gym equipment for the sister school. The building mechanical equipment was then salvaged as much as possible and reused else where.
You know they didn't adhere to sterilizing all the shit they were storing in there.
All that shit is kind of scary to me. The cover ups and clandestine shit.

>The other building is still there apparently.

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Anonymous 2014-10-01 23:07:30 No.705423
>>705417

4/10

you got me to respond. but either you or your bosses don't know enough about rising damp to spot the bullshit in that story.

if this story was legit and it really did happen, it didn't for reasons you described. your problem could have been solved with a host of solutions.

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Anonymous 2014-10-01 23:24:15 No.705428
Name the school and the district. This board is anonymous.

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Anonymous 2014-10-01 23:36:36 No.705431
>>705423
pretty much this.
sounds like pure bullshit and lies to me.
In a school, the ductwork would have been bare metal on the inside and wrapped on the outside. And just cutting sections open and spraying bleach would have killed any harmful bacteria or viruses or mold.

Far as air exchange, ain't no way in hell anything the size of a school is going to be passed without proper air exchange systems set up and installed. Ditto on unfinished duct. Got to pressure test all ductwork to meet new energy code. And uninstalled duct would not pass.

Unless this "school" was built in nigger Africa or nigger russia, all bullshit.

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Anonymous 2014-10-01 23:37:01 No.705432
>>705403
>The scary part is, even googling the info brings up nothing.
the scary part is it's bullshit

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Anonymous 2014-10-01 23:54:08 No.705441
Thank god /diy/ck tracy was here to crack the insidious case of the made up story.
Y'all niggers need to take a few breaths

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Anonymous 2014-10-02 00:32:05 No.705454
boohoo a couple of people got sick in a school. i work in a buffet in a casino, my knees are busted after 5 years being there, who knows how much cigarette smoke gets pumped in through the vent, and i have high blood pressure from shitty management

i'm sure it's the same or worse for 5 billion other people around the world. who gives a fuck, dude? why don't you man the fuck up and finish your education at your scary michael crichton story school and then you can get a job somewhere else

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Anonymous 2014-10-02 00:47:45 No.705456
>>705454
You work in a casino buffet you subhuman motherfucker. Deal with it, or fuck off out of an industry known for exploiting EVERYONE. No one to blame but yourself for your fucked knees you moron.

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Anonymous 2014-10-02 00:52:41 No.705459
>>705454
Oh u.







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