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Anonymous 2013-10-01 14:55:38 No.11484734

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Why don't we ever discuss light novels?

I'm surprised there isn't an LN general like we have a VN general


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Anonymous 2013-10-01 14:56:57 No.11484737
There used to be one, discussion just dies.

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Anonymous 2013-10-01 14:59:38 No.11484744
because most of /jp/ can't read moon

the only light novels that get translated are ones that have anime which goes in /a/

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Anonymous 2013-10-01 15:04:59 No.11484757
Will the Kizu movie ever come out?

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Anonymous 2013-10-01 15:14:06 No.11484774
Because people can't read moon and LN discussions always turn into anime discussions and anime discussions go on /a/.

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Anonymous 2013-10-01 15:20:09 No.11484789
>>11484744
>>11484774
I think there's a fair amount of users who can read moon on /jp/
Problem is light novels aren't as easily obtainable since no one scans or puts it in pdf unlike VNs which get ripped after a day of release

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Anonymous 2013-10-01 15:24:16 No.11484800
Because there aren't enough Japanese-reading people willing to discuss LNs AND basically we're not allowed to discuss translated ones because 99% of them have anime and
>This is the appropriate board for the discussion of Japanese visual novels, and light novels without an animated adaptation.
https://www.4chan.org/rules

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Anonymous 2013-10-01 15:31:01 No.11484815
Because reading is for nerds

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Anonymous 2013-10-01 15:39:26 No.11484834
LNs and VNs are both awful.
The difference is VNs have cute pictures and voices to go along with the shit writing. I wonder why one is more popular than the other.

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Anonymous 2013-10-01 16:23:15 No.11484931
Aren't LNs written for teenagers?

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Anonymous 2013-10-01 16:44:41 No.11484970
>>11484931
Not in principle, though in practice that's the main demographic. Some are even written by teenagers.

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Anonymous 2013-10-01 17:49:44 No.11485132

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Don't people read both VN and LN? If you're able to read Japanese stuff already, why limit yourself?

Actually, I find myself reading more LN than VN lately, so why the fuck not, let's discuss LN. Currently reading kizu and an ero LN with a typically silly, long name.

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Anonymous 2013-10-01 18:15:40 No.11485187
I'm not there yet with my Japanese. I guess I could read some basic LN, but I don't want that.

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Anonymous 2013-10-01 18:20:23 No.11485197
LNs are fucking awful. And don't even try to play the 'hurr it's poorly translated' card. It's not the translator's fault dialog makes up 70-80% of every page. It's like reading a play or a shitty fanfic. At least VNs have nice character sprites, music, sound effects, etc.

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Anonymous 2013-10-01 20:56:11 No.11485640

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Anyone else reading ?????? I'm almost done with volume 4.

After that I'm going to read volume 4? of Horizon.

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Anonymous 2013-10-01 21:02:21 No.11485667
>>11484800
>99% of them have anime
It's the other way around, really. Only a very small amount of LNs get anime adaptations. Just because 90% of new shows these days are from LNs doesn't mean that they all have adaptations.

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Anonymous 2013-10-01 21:06:35 No.11485678
>>11485667
>>11484800
Didn't see that you said "translated ones" whoops.

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Anonymous 2013-10-02 07:59:44 No.11487465
>>11484789
>I think there's a fair amount of users who can read moon on /jp/
With varying degree of fluency. VNs are normally voiced. it helps a lot. CGs and character faces also helps you grasp the situation without reading too much.

LNs on the other hand requires you to read text and only text in order to understand.

> Problem is light novels aren't as easily obtainable since no one scans or puts it in pdf unlike VNs which get ripped after a day of release
Many LN titles have digital versions, but I think not many people want to pay 450-600 JPY per volume.

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Anonymous 2013-10-02 08:08:45 No.11487481
>>11487465
There's still a decent amount of us who can read VNs without assistance (or at least, I link to think as much).

So I really think it is more likely that we just choose not to.

Personally the reason I like VNs is because I like voices/CGs/pictures. It's hard to feel moe towards text.

If I wanted to read a story, I'd rather just read a novel. There's plenty of fantasy and stuff in English and probably Japanese as well that is a lot better written than most LNs.

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Anonymous 2013-10-02 12:47:46 No.11488026
>>11487465
>VNs are normally voiced. it helps a lot.
It doesn't really help at all.Dialogs are the easy part.

MC narration is the hard one.
Because the MC "thoughts" is usually the part where the writer try to be deep and edgy as fuck. What better way to be deep and edgy than to whip out a thesaurus to write bullshit?

And I'm not even talking about VN, fucking nukige writer pull that shit. Stuff that end within five hours.

Also some VN come with furigana, and it's really the next step in learning japanese after reading SOL/comedy manga.

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Anonymous 2013-10-02 15:05:38 No.11488264
>>11485640

Read the first 2 volumes, and thought it was pretty good. Volume 3 didn't look as interesting though, so I haven't gotten it yet. How does it compare?

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Anonymous 2013-10-02 15:18:55 No.11488290
>LN
Literally the worse medium ever in otaku culture. Just look at these gem of a title.
>Little Sisters, Don’t Hit On Me!
>My Little Sister Can Read Kanji
>My Little Sister Can’t Be This Cute
>My Little Sister Who Is Popular With Girls and Me Who Suffers
>My Little Sister is a Light Novel Goddess
>My Little Sister is Mad Because My Girlfriend Came Onto Me?
>I Know You’re My Brother but as Long There’s Love it Doesn’t Matter, Right?
>Little Sister Complex
>My Childhood Friend and Little Sister Have Delusional Daydreams in My Fantasies
>There’s No Way I Can Be Empress of a Parallel Dimension!
>One of These Girls is My Little Sister!
>I Tried Controlling My Rebellious Little Sister With the Power of the Devil King

Please read real japanese books instead.

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Anonymous 2013-10-02 15:24:22 No.11488300

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Anonymous 2013-10-02 15:30:24 No.11488311
>>11484744
>>11484789
>>11487465
>>11484774
Hey racists it's called Japanese, not "moon"

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Anonymous 2013-10-02 15:34:54 No.11488323
>>11488264
Volume 3 is also great, but it doesn't top volume 2. You should just read it though, the whole series is awesome. Who's your favorite character so far?

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Anonymous 2013-10-02 15:36:43 No.11488327
>>11488290
I agree. Go back to the /a/, dear.

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Anonymous 2013-10-02 15:47:20 No.11488346
>>11488323
Maybe once I finish my current batch.

I'm a fan of ??? at the moment, I really liked how he and ????? hit it off in v1. What about you?

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Anonymous 2013-10-02 15:57:36 No.11488371

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We read REAL literature here, not your /a/ shit.

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Anonymous 2013-10-02 15:58:47 No.11488373
>>11488290
>I Tried Controlling My Rebellious Little Sister With the Power of the Devil King
Hah, such a thing really exist?
And whenever i try to read one i can't find it anywhere, that's why i don't even bother anymore.

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Anonymous 2013-10-02 16:27:58 No.11488451
>>11488371

holy fuck what awful handwriting.

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Anonymous 2013-10-03 02:09:23 No.11490045
>>11488346
Mora is my favorite. Volume 4 is the best overall I think, but volume 2 left a huge impression on me.

What's in your batch?

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Anonymous 2013-10-03 02:17:27 No.11490063
>>11487465
I read both and I don't find major differences in difficulty. There's a lot more fluctuation between authors and genres than there is between the two mediums, honestly.

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Anonymous 2013-10-03 02:20:02 No.11490067
>>11488451
it's ART faglord

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Anonymous 2013-10-03 03:34:40 No.11490198
Even if one reads moon light novels aren't worth reading.

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Anonymous 2013-10-03 03:50:37 No.11490229
>>11490045

Oh, volume 4, is it? That's not too far off, guess I'll be getting the next two after all. I get that Mora's really strong, but my impression from the first two volumes isn't too favorable, just because she seems to fall into the enemy's plans too easily (first in v1, and then almost again in v2...)

Current batch is:
????III??? ????????
????III??? ?????????
??????????????
???????? CAT, GHOST and REVOLUTION SUNDAY
???????!!

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Anonymous 2013-10-03 14:52:34 No.11491483
>>11490229
I like serious, older female characters, and I found it easy to sympathize with her plight, so that's why I like Mora. It seems the characters are taking turns each volume falling into Tgneu's traps (Adlett in volume 3, Rolonia in volume 4).

And I've never read any of those, unfortunately. I almost bought ??? at one point, but decided against it in favor of other books.

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Anonymous 2013-10-04 04:50:12 No.11493440
>>11491483
That reveal just made me a lot more interested in the next volume. He's been pretty on-top of things so far, so it'll be nice to see that change.

I've been branching out and mostly getting random v1's that have good reviews, and then deciding if I like the series well enough to continue. I've been really liking Allison actually, it's by the same author of Kino no Tabi, and worth trying if you like his writing style.

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Anonymous 2013-10-04 05:40:09 No.11493542
What about normal Japanese novels?

Has anyone read any good ones?

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Anonymous 2013-10-04 05:51:16 No.11493577
The Ebiten LN is pretty fun, but it doesn't feel like that many people actually read it. I don't actually have any interest in other LN's aide from maybe Anemoi.

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Suika-Tan 2013-10-04 06:03:19 No.11493623
There is an overwhelming selection of light novels in your average japanese book store. I can't see how an english speaking imageboard community would have enough native speakers to actually compile and translate enough of what people want to read.

I remember seeing LN threads in the past, but there just isn't an audience for it on /jp/.

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Anonymous 2013-10-04 06:07:33 No.11493641
>>11493623
>native speakers
You don't need to be a native speaker to read Japanese. Unless you're talking about English, in which case I'm not sure what you're talking about, because a large percentage of the people on /jp/ are native speakers of English (or are indistinguishable from a native speaker)

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Suika-Tan 2013-10-04 06:11:19 No.11493652
>>11493641
To be more specific, people who speak Japanese, and live in Japan, who have the ability to buy, scan and translate Light Novels, whether they're native or not.

I'm sure there are exceptions, but translating Manga is pretty easy compared to translating a novel, so I can't imagine there are lots of people willing to spend time on them, for such a small audience, unless they're popular enough.

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Anonymous 2013-10-04 06:12:15 No.11493656
>>11493652
You don't have to live in Japan to buy LN's.

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Anonymous 2013-10-04 06:13:58 No.11493662
>>11493652
What >>11493656 said, there's no need to go through all that. It's easy enough to get them imported. I've done that for 40+ volumes in total.

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Suika-Tan 2013-10-04 06:15:59 No.11493665
>>11493656
>>11493662
Sorry, forgive my ignorance then. I've always thought that people did that, but I just imagined it would be difficult to find what you want. LNs don't have huge production runs sometimes.

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Anonymous 2013-10-04 06:19:36 No.11493678
>>11493665
You have to pay fairly large premiums no matter what you do, but it should never run you more than 10-15 a volume (maybe a bit more for bakemono and other ones that are in different formats).

I agree that there isn't much of an English audience. Most of the people who read the English (baka-tsuki) ones only read it because the anime is coming out. Those "translations" are horrible machine-generated bullshit, and shouldn't be taken seriously.

Still, there's a decent community of people who are at least capable of understanding Japanese on /jp/, as evidenced by the thriving vn thread. I don't know how many people use that to read LNs, but I know I do, at least, and probably a handful of others do as well.

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Suika-Tan 2013-10-04 06:31:33 No.11493706
>>11493678
Considering most LNs are like 380 Yen, that's not insignificant, but I'm sure it's worth it to the true fans.

I've always liked how a collection of LNs look on a shelf. They're just about the perfect size for anything. This is unrelated, but I've always found it funny how when they translate Manga for audiences outside of Japan, they change the proportions of the books,

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Anonymous 2013-10-04 06:34:03 No.11493714
>>11493706
>380 yen
If you can get them used, but that's nearly impossible internationally unless you have someone who can buy them for you (and if you have to pay them it wouldn't be worth it).

I used to think it was a lot and balk at paying 2-3x what they would be in Japan, but really it's such a small expense compared to basically anything else in my life (food, rent, utilities) that I don't mind spending an extra 10-20 a month on average compared to what the prices would be in Japan (I usually go through about 2 volumes a month).

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Anonymous 2013-10-04 07:23:38 No.11493832
Because they're like reading an anime script.

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Anonymous 2013-10-04 08:04:26 No.11493903
There are plenty of Horizon/Owari/Wheel of Time threads on /a/. Other lns aren't worth talking about anyway.

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Anonymous 2013-10-04 08:46:23 No.11493975
>>11493832
>>11490198
>>11488290
>>11485197
>>11484834

Until now I was the only person who pointed out these things and felt like a pariah for it.

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Anonymous 2013-10-04 14:18:20 No.11494461
>>11493440
I've read all of Kino no Tabi and I do like Sigsawa's style. I do plan on getting to all the other stuff he's written one day.

>>11493542
I enjoyed ??????????? and ?????.

>>11493903
90% (more like 100%, lol) of the people in those threads don't even know Japanese and haven't read any of Kawakami's books. If you can actually read LNs, it's better to just skip the bullshit and go straight to 2ch's LN board, which is probably what most non-EOP 4chan users who read LNs (including myself) do.

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Anonymous 2013-10-04 23:20:15 No.11495916
>>11493903
>wheel of time
What am I missing here?

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Anonymous 2013-10-05 00:35:51 No.11496051
>>11495916
It's le epic meme. Some fag from /a/ stacked his Horizon volumes (that he can't even read, fucking lmao) next to his Wheel of Time collection and posted a picture of it.

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Anonymous 2013-10-05 00:41:25 No.11496066
>>11493975
People have been pointing out that LNs have shitty writing for years and I doubt every one of them was you.

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Anonymous 2013-10-05 10:11:20 No.11497561
>>11493975
And those who read them will not care. Neither do I.

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Anonymous 2013-10-05 16:04:51 No.11498220

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Anonymous 2013-10-05 16:40:44 No.11498322
While there are a lot of shit light novels, especially those who get anime adaptations(With few exceptions, like Hyouka), there are great LN series so long as you don't go for those with KAWAII UGUU covers and pictures inside. I personally recommend ???????, ???????????? and anything by Yonebu Honezawa.

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Anonymous 2013-10-05 16:53:29 No.11498348
>>11498322
>???????
I'm not seeing any kawaii illustrations, bub. Are you sure this is a light novel?

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Anonymous 2013-10-05 17:00:34 No.11498364
>>11498348
I can't say anything about what is and isn't a light novel, but I found out about it on a light novel recommendation site.

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Anonymous 2013-10-05 17:31:07 No.11498416
>>11498348
LN is more of a demographic and marketing label. LNs that have insert moe illustrations are plenty, specially recently, but that has not always been the case.

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Anonymous 2013-10-05 17:48:36 No.11498467
>>11498322
I still don't know why you would choose to read stuff like that. It's basically choosing to read young adult literature over adult literature right? So does japan not have any good fantasy/sci fi literature outside of LNs or something? Because I like "trashy" genres as much as anybody else, but I still prefer that it's not written for 13 year olds.

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Anonymous 2013-10-05 18:44:01 No.11498594
>>11498467
It's easier to read for people who aren't completely fluent, and it's bite sized literature. Also, they're cheap. I usually read during my commute to and from college, so LNs are more convenient for carrying around and buying in large quantities than more involved literature.

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Anonymous 2013-10-05 19:06:58 No.11498644
>>11498467
>It's basically choosing to read young adult literature over adult literature right?
What's the difference?

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Anonymous 2013-10-05 19:10:50 No.11498652
My Rock Band's Singer Is A Shitposter, But At Least My Personal Maid Was Kicked In The Nuts!

My Waifu Is A CIA Agent, And Now My Opposite Sex Clone Browses 2chan!

This Idol I Like Has A Penis, And Now She Is Not Toilet Trained!

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Anonymous 2013-10-05 19:48:34 No.11498743
>>11498467
you could check the various SF awards they have or something and choose something from that.

how about the ???????

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Anonymous 2013-10-05 20:03:30 No.11498761
>>11498743
>outside of LNs

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Anonymous 2013-10-06 22:07:02 No.11502433
>>11493706
How big are most LNs?
I've only got one series and each book is about 14cm tall and 10cm wide.

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Anonymous 2013-10-06 22:21:35 No.11502460
>>11498467
they're fun and they can be generally be read in like 2-3 hours. If you like anime or vns then there is really no reason not to read light novels. although reading them exclusively would probably be bad.

>>11498652
>This Idol I Like Has A Penis, And Now She Is Not Toilet Trained!
i would read that.

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Anonymous 2013-10-06 22:23:45 No.11502464
>>11493832
Sorry is that bad? that's pretty much the only reason I read them.

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Anonymous 2013-10-06 22:24:04 No.11502465
>>11502433
Bunko size, or pretty much the same dimensions that you just mentioned.

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Anonymous 2013-10-06 22:28:15 No.11502472
>>11502460
>2-3 hours
Jesus. I can only do 50 pages per hour, so your average 300 page LN takes me 6 hours.

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Anonymous 2013-10-06 22:54:21 No.11502521
>>11502472
that's about what i can do for English books but for LNs i can do closer to 100 for whatever reason, assuming i don't have to look up anything of course.

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Anonymous 2013-10-06 23:40:51 No.11502611

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tfw chuunibyou anime isn't like the novel

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Anonymous 2013-10-07 00:10:05 No.11502669
What's the best place to buy LNs? Amazon.jp charges me out the ass for shipping kinokuniya doesn't have what I want in stock or forgets what I ordered.

All I want is a decent price with decent shipping.

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Anonymous 2013-10-07 00:12:37 No.11502672
Do light novels have pictures?

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Anonymous 2013-10-07 00:48:41 No.11502759
>>11502669
honto

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Anonymous 2013-10-07 00:55:52 No.11502781
>>11502759
do they even ship outside Japan?

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Anonymous 2013-10-07 01:00:05 No.11502790
>>11502781
http://help.honto.jp/faq_detail.html?id=10169

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Anonymous 2013-10-07 01:03:58 No.11502799
>>11502790
Interesting, I might give them a shot then.

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Anonymous 2013-10-07 06:43:05 No.11503894
>>11502672
Illustrations are like the main selling point of most LNs.

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Anonymous 2013-10-07 06:58:12 No.11503959
>>11503894
That's not true. Some (like Nisio Isin's stuff) don't have hardly any pictures at all.

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Anonymous 2013-10-07 15:37:03 No.11505067
>>11503959
I don't think he meant it like that. He was just explaining that it was pretty much the only thing setting LNs apart from regular novels.

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Anonymous 2013-10-07 17:48:40 No.11505398

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I wish we had a larger community for LN & VN translators. I still cannot find a whole translation of Bakamonogatari, and that just pisses me off. My only real option is to learn Japanese & around 2000 characters min. =|

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Anonymous 2013-10-07 19:12:31 No.11505647
>>11505398
Once you learn Japanese, you realize that translating isn't fun at all and you'd rather be reading new stuff instead of translating stuff you've already read. Fan translators are either in it for attention, in it for the love of translating, or are just confused. The only group you can do anything about are the ones in it for attention, which fortunately comprises about 90% of "fan" translators. Just suck their e-peens until they cum translations all over you.

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Anonymous 2013-10-07 19:54:12 No.11505784
>>11502799
Another Anon. Been buying my books and LN from honto for more than a year. I got all I wanted without a hitch. Plus I always marvel how their packers manage to do such neat, trim packages out of whatever size and amount of books I order.

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Anonymous 2013-10-07 19:58:12 No.11505796
>>11505398
Just bite the bullet already. The freedom to choose whatever you want out from the massive pool of native stuff is worth it. Remember that it's not just LN; you get access to VN, games, manga, books, magazines, newspapers, websites, tv shows, movies ??

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Anonymous 2013-10-07 22:15:52 No.11506170

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>>11505647
Well, I will most likely do it for a school project so I can get something out of it beyond just trying to look cool. But, after I end up being able to fully read it, I might just say fuck it. lol. Really is a shame the Monogatari series is not fully translated by anyone, even US sellers.

>>11505796
I completely agree and full plan on after learning most of the Japanese I can (and getting my master in Eng.) to move to Japan. But, it will take a few years to full finish my MS/BA. =0

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Anonymous 2013-10-08 00:46:26 No.11506595
>>11506170
It will be likely be difficult to find a traditional engineering job in Japan having graduated abroad. I can only recommend that in these few years become a master in programming and pick up as many high level IT skills as you can. If you are serious about moving to Japan you need a career plan.

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Anonymous 2013-10-08 01:16:12 No.11506674
>>11498594
>It's easier to read for people who aren't completely fluent

This is a misconception. LNs are no easier to read than normal novels.

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Anonymous 2013-10-08 01:19:56 No.11506681
>>11506595
This is what worries me. But, my masters will be in computer eng. and I already have high & low level programming skills, along side IT skills. I'm trying to get as much education as I can before the move.. But, what horries me the most is simply learning Japanese and having the time to obtain my masters & get all the Japanese I require. I wish I was rich so I could just hire a private tutor.

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Anonymous 2013-10-08 01:31:17 No.11506711
>>11506681
I made the move after 3 years of combining Japanese study with university work, not sure how long you have, but that should be enough if you autism mode it.

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Anonymous 2013-10-08 07:58:58 No.11507407
>>11506674
It may be debatable if you're reading older stuff. I tried me some Souseki and I realized I need some more time until I can fully enjoy it.

I fully agree with you about modern literature though. It's not about the medium, It's about the author and genre.

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Anonymous 2013-10-08 08:05:59 No.11507413
>>11507407
Yeah I doubt any VNs are as hard as stuff by the famous classic authors. But if you're reading the japanese equivalent of the Da Vinci Code then it probably won't be that different.

And Kokoro is pretty easy. It's a completely different level from shit like I am a Cat

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Anonymous 2013-10-08 08:31:14 No.11507447

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I'm slowly reading this.
I feel like I would be getting more out of this series if I'd read other ???? books.

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Anonymous 2013-10-09 02:26:34 No.11509753
>>11487481
I can only read vns with text hooker. I read nisio novels sometimes when I get my hands on a txt version, but those are a bit hard to find and yeah light novels are generally discussed on /a/.

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Anonymous 2013-10-09 02:31:57 No.11509766
>>11498761
It's not an LN.

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Anonymous 2013-10-09 02:32:23 No.11509768
>>11507447
What is the story?

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Anonymous 2013-10-09 03:08:20 No.11509819
>>11509766
It's written like an LN though.

There's plenty of Japanese fantasy/SF literature if you go to a bookshop/amazon, but I think they're kind of niche even here in Japan and I have no idea what of it (if any) is any good or not. From my impressions serious Japanese fantasy/SF fans would tend to prefer to read internationally popular western works.

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Anonymous 2013-10-09 03:12:26 No.11509826
>>11509819
Like Asimov.

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Anonymous 2013-10-09 03:18:22 No.11509840
>>11509819
I'm sorry, have you actually read it?

The series started before the current style of LNs became mainstream. The writing style itself is a homage to translated western scifi.

I don't understand how you can come up with "written like an LN." It's not an LN just because it got an anime. Just like how Les Misérables, Natasume Souseki, and Shinsekai Yori are not LNs just because they got animated.

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Anonymous 2013-10-09 05:05:00 No.11510183
>>11509840
Yes I have read it. Its emphasis on character interaction and general structure make it more like a LN than a traditional SF novel. Traditional literature doesn't get dragged out over 10+ volumes in an episodic fashion.

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Anonymous 2013-10-09 12:11:20 No.11510856
>>11502460
>>11502472
How did you improve your reading speed? I'm at maybe 25 pages per hour.

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Anonymous 2013-10-09 12:21:38 No.11510874
>>11488311
"Japanese" is not a race.

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Anonymous 2013-10-09 12:56:24 No.11510920
>>11510856
How many books have you read?

Reading speed will vary a lot depending on text anyway. Toradora will be a lot quicker (maybe 2x) faster than Crest of the Stars for example (especially since the text size is difference)

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Anonymous 2013-10-09 13:05:00 No.11510946
>>11510920
different*

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Anonymous 2013-10-09 16:32:19 No.11511352
>>11510920
Maybe 15-20 books? I couldn't tell you precisely

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Anonymous 2013-10-09 17:00:29 No.11511446
That Harry Potter question was a genuine question, don’t know why it was deleted.
Does HP count as a light novel?

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Anonymous 2013-10-09 17:01:30 No.11511450
>>11511446
It's YA fiction.

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Anonymous 2013-10-09 17:03:39 No.11511460
>>11511450
But is there actually anything that sets young adult fiction apart from light novels? Is light novel just a term for young adult fiction from Japan?

If someone in Taiwan writes such a novel and slaps a moe girl on the cover, is it ‘YA fiction’ or ‘LN’?

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Anonymous 2013-10-09 17:07:20 No.11511468
>>11511460
YA novels are written for teenagers. LN are just Japanese pulp novels and can be written for any demographic.

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Anonymous 2013-10-09 21:27:54 No.11512121
>>11510856
>>11510920
It also can vary a lot between people even in your native language. Some people can read at ridiculous speeds and they must be almost skipping entire paragraphs of narration.

If you "read aloud" in your head, it tends to restrict your reading speed though. But for me I find that it's the only way to ensure actual comprehension, in both english and japanese.

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Anonymous 2013-10-09 21:31:29 No.11512132
>>11511450
I miss when we just called that "children's fiction".

See also: "graphic novel" (what the fuck does this even mean?)

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Anonymous 2013-10-10 02:38:27 No.11512745
I can probably read about 40 pages an hour if I really concentrate but I just can't concentrate on a book for that long. My eyes start hurting and my brain gets tired... I always end up stopping after 10-20 pages. I wish everything were available in ebook form.

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Anonymous 2013-10-10 03:38:15 No.11512827
>>11512745
you're weird

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Anonymous 2013-10-10 03:49:30 No.11512842
> I wish everything were available in ebook form.
I don't see how that would reduce eyestrain.

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Anonymous 2013-10-10 04:50:36 No.11512926
>>11512827
I find it hard to concentrate on things that aren't on a screen and to get away from the computer in general. Doing anything feels like a chore compared to just refreshing /jp/.

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Anonymous 2013-10-10 05:02:48 No.11512942
>>11512926
>Doing anything feels like a chore compared to just refreshing /jp/.

I feel the same way. I can't tell if it's a sickness anymore.

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Anonymous 2013-10-10 05:33:35 No.11512975

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>>11509768
Cute girls skipping school and lazing about together with some yuri angst thrown in. There's no real story so far, it's just slice-of-life and figuring out gay feelings. I like the feel of it though.

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Anonymous 2013-10-10 05:52:46 No.11513000
>>11512942
Today I spent 2 hours just looking for my ????. There went my reading time.

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Anonymous 2013-10-10 05:59:13 No.11513010
Light novels end up with some great ideas that usually end up riddled wwith derivative drek... it's like watching seedlings get trampled sometimes. very few writers have it dialed in.







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