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anyone well-educated in semiotics here?
I got in an argument with a tutor today; she said that words can only be iconic or symbolic signs (with Peirce's terminology), so they either can resemble the sound of something (crack, pop, beep, scratch) or be purely conventional, random and arbitrary.
I asked if there are indexic words - she said not possible. But surely, an 'Ouch', 'Oh!', 'Huh?' and sometimes even otherwise symbolic words like 'Jesus!' 'God no!' can be indexic, can't they? They stand in cause-effect relation with something happening. For every gasp and cry there must be a reason behind, which is revealed (signified) by the sound itself. At least we instantly turn our heads when we hear them. They are fairly instinctive and don't vary much culturally. Aren't they therefore indexic?
Why am I not correct? What do they teach about this at UK or USA universities?
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Hey /lit/, is it considered weird to buy someone a book as a Christmas gift?
In the case where you know they want the book, it's obvious, but in the case where you just think they might enjoy it, is it a bad idea to buy the book for them as a gift?
I mean, I feel like buying someone a book sort of forces them to read it whether they're truly interested or not, but I'm just not sure if I'm just not projecting how I feel about being gifted a book onto other people.
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ITT I will speculate that Thomas Pynchon is a Freemason. I am not a practicing occultist nor a freemason, I merely have an interest in truth. I didn't notice these details until ~100 pages into either of these books, and only noted what jumped out at me. There are surely countless symbols I overlooked or cannot identify. As we all know the plot in Gravity's Rainbow concerns an Illuminati type group, the illusory nature of reality and there are occultists in parts 1 & 4 and several overt references to masonry. This post goes beyond these surface details. We begin:
He is from an "old-money" family in New England and attended Cornell. Pynchon outright refers to masonic emblems during the first mention of Tyrone's family during Gravity's Rainbow, before describing how intricately family fortunes are hidden and transferred through business maneuvers and various accounts. When Tyrone is being instructed in German by Dodgson-Truck it's mentioned that his language teacher can speak 33 languages and then they immediately begin discussing pagan sun symbolism. Pirate Prentice's age is given as 33 and Werner Von Braun is mentioned turning 33 during the novel's time. (As a side-note the arguable protagonist of Carpenter's Gothic, Liz, is also 33 years of age. Gaddis (author) is also from a wealthy east coast family and ivy league education, his book involves parables of christ enacting his will through "building" and shows religion using tragedy for PR and cashgrabs) 33 is the rumored-and-all-but-confirmed masonic degree above the publicly acknowledged 32 degrees of the Scottish rite.
Part of the conspiracy in Gravity's Rainbow involves the Dutch Shell company. There is a rather infamous set of photographs /x/ and /pol/ occasionally post which show fairly obvious masonic imagery on a stained glass window in an abandoned dutch oil facility. This is included as the OP image. When Slothrop is in Zurich there is a mention of Ivy League classmate's oathes taken to Emptiness and their rulers "back home in puritan establishments" in direct connection with intelligence networks, even name-dropping "oss"/bone worship in fraternal organizations referring to, I imagine, iSkull and Bones at Yale. There is a passage "no one knew the complete spell — only portions. That's what teamwork is". Anyone who knows much about conspiracies will recognize this as a basic tenant of "compartmentalization", in which an organization is run as a pyramid with independent parts all supporting the whole without "interaction" (knowledge) of the other parts positions (roles). This is the meaning behind the pyramid symbol. A perfect example of this pyramidal system would be, of course thank you mr pynchon, united states intelligence agencies.
/lit/'s opinion on a /tg/ series
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Hey folks, I was wondering if I could get your input on an ongoing /tg/ storytime series called the All Guardsmen Party.
It is a story about bravery, incompetence, and the excessive use of detpacks set in the grimdarkness of the fortieth millennium. The tale follows a group of guardsmen from their origin in the mud and blood to their rise as one of the premier Inquisitorial teams on the sub-sector
Now unfortunately this is a big ol' thing and at heart it is a write-up of an Only War and Dark Heresy campaign, but it only briefly touches on the mechanics in the first two chapters. It shouldn't be much of a problem if you haven't played tabletop games and while knowing the setting helps, it's not necessary.
That said you can find the whole story in a slightly cleaned html format hosted by google-docs here:
Or the original posts cane be found in the archive here:
>Prologue: Darwinian Character Creation
>Guardsmen and Pilgrims
>Dude Where's My Psyker?
>What's In The Box?
>Good Soldiers, Bad Educators
Any literary input or discussion would be most welcome, even if it's just a recommendation that I sodomize myself with the entire works of Leon Trotsky instead of bothering you.