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/lit/ Literature

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what is the edgiest thing you have read?
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Let's talk about your personal religious views and your writing, /lit/. For example, I am currently in the seminary and my training and education influences my writing heavily. What about you, /lit/?
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Just finished reading this and I thought I'd recommend it here, since it's a lesser known work that I've never seen discussed. It's about a guy who starts glimpsing a city hidden in the nooks and crannies of his normal city (Prague). Reminded me of Meiville's "The City and the City" but without the murder mystery and with better writing (I read the English translation but it still had some beautiful prose). It's not for everyone, there are a few segments that are weird for the sake of being weird, but I'd put it in my top three for the year so far.
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Best christian philosophers?
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Ludwig Wittgenstein finished philosophy. Why are we still talking about it?
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Recently read Ishmael. I'm all for the CONSERVATION of the environment, but goddamn this was just trying to indoctrinate people to bring the economy down in the name of nature.
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Convince us to read something you wrote in twelve words or fewer. You get three votes, you can start posting the work until we tell you to stop. Go.
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may kill myself soon... what's the one book I absolutely have to read before I go?
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How much do you spend on books per month? I just bought like 30 books for 250$ I need stores that ship internationally in bundle and sell used ones or have free shipping worldwide
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today was the first meeting of my universities book club. Let me summarize it >fedoras everywhere >90% Terry Pratchett 10% Stephen King >literally every recommendation is tempered with "I've never read it but" or "ive always wanted to read" >people are told to give total page numbers with their recommendations; every book over 200 pages is disregarded I don't know why my expectations were so high, but holy shit. I moved one of my classes to the morning so I could come to this damn club and it's all for fucking nothing. Has anyone had any better experiences with a book club?
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Time for a small story /lit/ >be me >avid reader for a few years >start playing vidyas >get really into them >find it hard to read >stop reading >year later talk to some friends >end up buying necronomicon by HP lovecraft >read a page and dropped it >still want to read it So any tips on getting back into reading?
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What is some essential Trans-humanist literature?
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Who is the smartest person ever?
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Is this book as good as people say it is i can buy it for 5 dollar Is it worth it?
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Would you, /lit/?
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Why were all of the Greeks too fucking stupid to call Socrates out on his bullshit? He's got some critical characters in the Platonic dialogue but they themselves are too dumb to combat Socrates' ridiculous arguments. Just how retarded were these Greeks?
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>I love literature! Reading is one of my favorite passtimes! >I've pretty much read all of Dan Brown's novels and most of Stephen King. Reading truly is the mind food for a good and cultured brain. Why can't I insult these people in public without seeming like a jackass? I should be praised, not rebuked. Kill me.
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Science Fiction vs Fantasy Go.
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Has anyone here read much by Angela Carter? I read pic related and loved the dark, surreal, vaguely fantasy setting, and some of the major secondary characters (the barge patriarch, the old tableaux proprietor, the count). Are there any other books/anthologies by her that /lit/ would recommend?

Writer's Digest Short Story Competition

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Hey, /lit/: I'm entering the Writer's Digest short story competition for sci-fi. Is this awesome? And no, I'm not posting the short story. The internet is for porn, not plagiarism.
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>and it's likely I'll switch to this format for future Q&A's. >Q&A's Why the apostrophe?
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Best books/chapters in the Bible? Preferably ones that kinda scare you and strike fear in you Is revelations good?
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hey /lit/, maybe you can help me. ive never read much but i always have kind of wanted to, but i feel like the only reason i cant finish books is because i never truly find books that i like alot, so im wondering if you can suggest a book that is written about an insane person or from the perspective of an insane person? i feel like that would be cool
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Somebody please help me I keep trying to read books but instead I just read around 50 pages of a book and then start reading another and I've started reading about 20 books at once someone kill me please put me out of this self-hating regretful misery. pic unrelated
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So /lit/. Amateur writer here. What do you think of this passage? >I had another dream. Another mefloquine dream. The ones that are solid and vivid and don’t evaporate away when you wake up, like the morning fog shone upon by the rising Sun. I dreamed of my mother, and I was a child again. We were in our apartment. I don’t remember how I got there, but I remember that it was a memory. I was eight years old and it was a blue skied summer morning. Cicadas were busy buzzing outside and I watched a mote of dust suspended in a beam of sunlight coming through the kitchen window. I watched it too long and didn’t pay attention to where I was going. I remember tripping into the counter and knocking a piece of pottery onto the floor. I cracked and shattered into half a dozen pieces. >“I’m sorry! I’m sorry!” >Mother looked at me quizzically. >“It’s OK, Hiro. There’s no reason to be ashamed.” >She scooped up the pieces from the floor and put them in the corner of the countertop. >“It’s better this way,” she said. She grabbed another piece of pottery from the window sill. “Come and see!”
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let's read each other's work. I'll go first. 'Diary of a psycho ex-boyfriend' "Before you roll your eyes, this isn’t some ‘she’s my one and only, I miss her I miss her I miss her, and nothing will ever be the same without her, and I’ll only ever be truly complete when she’s back by my side’ type of cumbersome polemic in which some guy ingratiatingly professes his undying love for some retrospectively perfect female that dumped him; nay, I’m perfectly aware of the fact that she’s just some girl – which is exactly why it’s so hellaciously horrifying that after all this time I still can’t stop thinking about her. I don’t really know how to put it: she’s not the smartest, or the most beautiful, or the most attractive, but there is she is, smack in the centre of my mind’s eye, months and months and months on. I don’t get it, I vividly remember the fights, how pissed I would get at how selfish she could be, how frustrated I’d get with the whole arrangement. Reminding myself of them actually makes me miss her even more. I could probably do a good job of romanticizing everything, and tell you about how empty everything was/has been/is since she left, but ‘left’ isn’t really even the optimum word here, she dumped me. The bitch dumped me. In a lane next to her house. To be fair to her, I imagine that it would be really awkward to give someone the heave-hoe while your parents watched the news in the next room. Plus, there isn’t really ever any optimum location to be told things aren’t exactly working out and maybe it would be better if we were just friends for a while but we will totally stay in contact because I really don’t want to lose you. There was no epic, romantic, and poignant parting, it was actually pretty anti-climactic, although I did get a traitors kiss. See? Fuck, I’m doing it again, it was most definitely not a traitor’s kiss, it was a peck on the face after she was done crying and I’d stopped begging her to change her mind, even though it was obviously made up long before I’d called around and there was absolutely nothing I could do to chance it. That’s actually one of the worst things about being the dumpee; most of the time the decision to part ways was made when you weren't there.
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So I'm going to jump into V. today. V as in Pynchon's not 'le anonymous leejun' V. I read Crying of Lot 49 and liked it so I'm pretty excited. What do you guys think about it? How difficult is it? Do I need to know some context or some obscure references or can I just get right into it?
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This book is coming out in October. Its a joint project between J.J. Abrams and Doug Dorst. JJ and Doug came up with the idea and Doug wrote the novel. Never heard of him before but im definitely interested to see how it'll turn out. Could be cool. You never know. >One book. Two readers. A world of mystery, menace, and desire. A young woman picks up a book left behind by a stranger. Inside it are his margin notes, which reveal a reader entranced by the story and by its mysterious author. She responds with notes of her own, leaving the book for the stranger, and so begins an unlikely conversation that plunges them both into the unknown. The book: Ship of Theseus, the final novel by a prolific but enigmatic writer named V.M. Straka, in which a man with no past is shanghaied onto a strange ship with a monstrous crew and launched onto a disorienting and perilous journey. The writer: Straka, the incendiary and secretive subject of one of the world’s greatest mysteries, a revolutionary about whom the world knows nothing apart from the words he wrote and the rumors that swirl around him. The readers: Jennifer and Eric, a college senior and a disgraced grad student, both facing crucial decisions about who they are, who they might become, and how much they’re willing to trust another person with their passions, hurts, and fears. S., conceived by filmmaker J. J. Abrams and written by award-winning novelist Doug Dorst, is the chronicle of two readers finding each other in the margins of a book and enmeshing themselves in a deadly struggle between forces they don’t understand, and it is also Abrams and Dorst’s love letter to the written word. This is also the teaser trailer for it when it was still a "mystery project". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuZfpt8nxtk
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Sup /lit/izens Recently my platonicwomanfriend recommended that I try reading Bukowski. Would Post Office be a good place to start? Does he have any short stories of note?

Shakespeare's Comedies

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How well do Shakespeare's comedies stand up today?
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Why isn't this true for /lit/?
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I'm awfully ignorant concerning this topic and I'm looking for a recommendation. What are some analytic arguments justifying utilitarianism? i.e. the fundamental drive to apply the moral system, explaining the ends rather than the means. Striving for collective utility seems irrational to me, as it isn't compatible with what I think to be a more logical understanding of human social behavior. In my eyes, psychological egoism must be thoroughly debunked in order to rationalize any transcendent ought (i.e. a moral claim beyond one's own interests). To do so, I think a fundamental "mental unity" must exist, or at least some kind of emergent social entity in which all/most humans have a similar underlying connection to. Oughts must be agent-neutral. One claim I make to support egoism is my belief that the benefit or harm obtained from pro-social emotions (disgust, empathy, etc) are both a kind of mental hardware that define one's own interests, they do not have any relations to other actors beyond circumstance. To put it one way, if you feel happy when causing a child to smile, you're merely initiating action to obtain benefit as a consequence - like picking an apple from a tree or something. You like the projected qualities, not essential actors themselves. I'll try to clarify if I'm being too vague. This is pretty must crackpot armchair philosophy.
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Has anyone else read this? It's crazy. It's not particularly well translated but the stories are absolutely ridiculous.
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Why do we say in english: >He would have no balls to engage instead of >He would has not balls to engage

Voice of a generation

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I like poems generally, all kinds. What is included in today’s comic barely fits my own definition, but it’s probably the correct term. People occasionally compliment me on my writing: they will say something like, “I like your writing,” which is constructed in such a way that I cannot wriggle from it. I accept the compliment because my momma raised me right; refusal of a gift is the first sin. But this is respiration for me. This is the sound of me breathing out; I can’t not do it. Though I suppose I could stop, and die. I know what shape a piece of language has to conform to, and once I have the mold, words just fall into it. The decision I made for the poem, the only cognitive part of its construction, was that it had to invert itself. A lot of poems and songs do that; Fast Car is a good example. I’m writing a song for Kris Straub that does something similar, in that the chorus repeated throughout the song means something different after the last verse. I’m not telling you this to make you think that I am clever or interesting - I’m trying to explain why it is difficult to absorb compliments for what feel like autonomic responses. Most of the words I’m using are just English words, right off the shelf, with the occasional aftermarket mod. I’m not sure I’ve ever done anything that could not be accomplished as well or better with refrigerator magnets. It might have to be a very large refrigerator, obviously. And you might need a couple packs of the magnets. You get it, though. If you like Daughters of the Eyrewood and Lookouts, there’s no reason to believe you’ll ever have to wait especially long to get that stuff again. The Lookouts novel is very interesting to me. I have to be the “artist” also in a project like this, which is a different sort of thing. The strip we did about how many words a picture is worth is something injured writers often bring up, waddling up to the Q&A microphone like they have a spanked bottom, but they need to understand that he’s sown the seeds of his own annhiliation with that flippant shit. Now we have a standard comparative measurement. A thousand of mine, for one of his.

A Clockwork Orange vs. Starship Troopers

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Both of these books indirectly deal with instances of societal decay. "A Clockwork Orange" is set in a decayed, futuristic Britain, while "Starship Troopers" plays out in a futuristic civilisation born from the ashes of modern day society. Each book offers different opinions on how to respond to the aforementioned decay/decline. Robert A. Heinlein (Troopers) would have us radically change and reevaluate our theory of morals and code of values, and give birth to a culture based on duty and service. Contrarily, Anthony Burgess (Orange) would have us endure the depredations of others, that we do not have the right to alter or interfere with a man's free will, and that to do so will inevitably result in totalitarianism. Where do you stand?

FInd a Book

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_Im trying fo find a book, i think is a novel and i don't remember who write it. But the idea of it was that the main character live a life based on punk stories, and every chapter has a title of a punk or rock song. I will appreciate your help and any clue that you can leak to find it. Thanks. ALSO i know this is no request, but this author is barely new. So no one there will know it. Pic not related






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