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Anonymous 2015-06-11 19:18:29 No.6675112

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Chivalrous edition

New to these genres? Check out these charts for recommendations!
>Fantasy
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>Sci-Fi
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>What SF/F books are you currently reading
>Who are your favorite Knights/Knightlike characters of Fantasy?


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Anonymous 2015-06-11 19:23:06 No.6675128
>>6675112
are those charts for ants?

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 19:23:26 No.6675129
>>6675112
>General
Disgusting. Can we just have a thread without it being a "general"?

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 19:30:19 No.6675153
can I get a bigger chart? cant see shit.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 19:31:52 No.6675164
I just finished reading Neverness by David Zindell. It's good, I guess, if you like the "cult of science" trope. It is among the most ambitious science fiction novels I've read. The event I was expecting to be the climax happened about 10% of the way into the book, and the story only got bigger from there. The book was published in the 80s, but when I was reading it, for some reason I thought it was from the late 1990s, and nothing in the book really gave it away as so dated. Often sci-fi from the 80s has a slightly slimy, campy vibe (think early Iain M Banks).

Now I'm reading The Year of the Flood, sequel to Oryx and Crake, by Margaret Atwood. I felt like I hadn't read a female author in a long time, and I was getting a little tired of badly written neckbeard-male-authored female characters and books that don't pass the Bechdel Test. I just started, but it seems to be shorter than I expected. Not sure where I'll go from there.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 19:34:16 No.6675174
>>6675112
>no Harry Potter

dropped

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 19:36:09 No.6675183
>>6675174
But Harry Potter is magical realism! :^)

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 19:38:25 No.6675193
>>6675128
>>6675153
Dude the charts are fine. Do you know how to use your web browser? Are you sure you aren't "zoomed out" when looking at them?

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 19:47:53 No.6675233
>>6675193
...the charts are "fine," in the sense that they are readable, but I find that the content within is actually not that great. They are heavily weighted towards frankly quite old stuff, even the "modern" section is mostly from the 70s and 80s. Well, I guess they can be used as a starting place.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 19:51:07 No.6675242
>>6675193
Yes I know how, you patronizing cunt. They're small images without a zoom, and too low-res to enlarge.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 20:15:02 No.6675334
>>6675242
Which ones are you having trouble seeing? I'm serious about the browser thing. I've noticed that sometimes browsers remember if you've ever zoomed in or out on a site, and then any time you load something from that domain it will come out weird unless you set it back to 100%.

Most of the book covers are about 300 pixels high on my end, which is a pretty standard size for book covers, box art, album covers, etc.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 20:19:32 No.6675346
>>6675334
I don't know why you take pride in being able to tell when an image is zoomed in or not on your browser, but it's not a rare skill.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 20:27:55 No.6675367
To hell with Chivalry. Read The Blade itself by Joe Abercrombie. Logan Ninefingers shits over every "knight"

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 20:56:15 No.6675464
>>6675367
Oww, that edge! Anyway, you should finish the trilogy. And then read the Prince of Nothing trilogy by R. Scott Bakker. If you like grim, Bakker's your guy.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 21:00:59 No.6675482
>>6675367
Halfway through it. He's easily the worst POV IMO

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 21:07:28 No.6675508
Science fiction died in the 1980s.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 22:03:29 No.6675705
Finished Ender's Game. Damn that was good. I'm normally really good at predicting and seeing things coming but I was too engrossed in the story I guess and the twist just totally took me by surprise. Remember standing up and pacing around with my hands on my head when it happened

>mfw I go to goodreads and see the top reviews for it

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 22:10:30 No.6675740
>>6675705
good reads never fails to impress with how bad an opinion can be.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 22:16:24 No.6675768
>>6675705
I was the opposite, I'm usually terrible at spotting twists, but when there were only 50 pages left and he hadn't left 'training' yet, I spotted it.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 22:28:00 No.6675808
>>6675705
I remember the twist blew my mind out the back of my skull when I read it.
That was years ago, though.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 22:34:59 No.6675827
>>6675128
>>6675242
>>6675153
Charts are fine, sperg.

>>6675112
I've started Vurt and that new Abercrombie novel that I forgot the name of (some kind of viking setting, and I forgot most of the plot of the first novel as well).

I won't answer the second question because you fucked it up with 'knightlike' characters, now it can be anything.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 22:37:58 No.6675839
I read this when I was like 14. Any thoughts?

I really liked it.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 22:44:08 No.6675870
>>6675705
Did your boner explode for the Queen?

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 22:46:22 No.6675879
>>6675839
Was pretty cool, read it twice about the same age, introduced me to norse myth

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 22:49:25 No.6675886
>>6675827
are we looking at the same charts? because i'm not zoomed out and i can't see shit even when enlarged the image is too small to tell what these are.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 22:50:37 No.6675892
>>6675886
No. On my screen every book cover is about the size of that entire image you just posted. Somehow you are only getting a thumbnail.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 22:50:59 No.6675895
>>6675886
It's on your end, it's fine for most people

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 22:55:18 No.6675914
>>6675886
Getting this shit too. Could someone reupload them at least?

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 22:55:54 No.6675919
>>6675886
Same problem here

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 22:59:48 No.6675933
About to start the Memory, Sorrow and Thorn trilogy lads.

Anyone read it?

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 23:01:46 No.6675941
Sorry to repost but I just started a booktube trying to get into fantasy.
Shameless self-promotion, I know, but I really want to do good, and would like some criticism.
Anybody?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS4bBzr3BYo

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 23:02:39 No.6675945
>>6675886
that one is for ants, the one OP posted are fine.

>>6675705
It's funny how Dota developed much of its strategy like collaborative Ender's game project.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 23:06:07 No.6675960
Currently reading g Gardens of the Moon by Steven Erikson. This book is incredible, I'm really not sure why /lit/ never talks about this series....

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 23:10:31 No.6675973
The Magic of Recluce is rad, anyone read it? The MC spends more than 50 pages making furniture and they're some of my favourite pages

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 23:10:58 No.6675975
Bowl of Heaven and Shipstar by Benford and Niven (Sci Fi)

Story is good, the science is hokey, and the grammer is atrosious at times

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 23:14:45 No.6675988
>>6675960
Maybe if you lurked more or checked the fucking archive you would see

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 23:15:34 No.6675990
>>6675941
I susbscribed last thread
excited to see where this goes
can you make separate videos that go more into analysis?

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 23:17:26 No.6675997
>>6675941
>swans

Subbed. I haven't read WoT yet so I'm not going to watch all of it, but I'll sub for future books/series you might cover.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 23:19:46 No.6676006
>>6675960
How far in are you? I hated it for the first ~200 pages, once it got to Darujhistan and Crocus' introduction I was hooked though.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 23:26:53 No.6676029
>>6675945
that one is the one i got from the OP though, there's something weird going on where some browsers aren't going to the correct image i tried a different browser and it worked.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 23:28:01 No.6676034

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 23:29:26 No.6676039
Arthurian bros, should I start with Le Mort d'Arthur or The Once and True King?

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 23:45:18 No.6676093
>>6675740
I like the site to index what I've read and my backlog and sometimes I even get the motivation to write up a review myself. Obviously I learned to not take reviews too seriously when I saw that a lot of top ones were just some random tumblr gif but this is the first I've seen that was so bad. 3 out of the top 4 reviews are 1 stars. This is one of the best pieces of SF I've read and people are calling it shit because the author is sexist or racist or something? What the fuck. Ender's fight with Bonzo happening in the shower means the author is a pedo? I don't even know

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 23:55:13 No.6676137
>>6676093
you need to get past wanting to have your opinion seen, rated and feedback'd because if you care about that you will always be surrounded by normalfags.

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Anonymous 2015-06-11 23:59:50 No.6676149
>>6676029
Why no Lies of Locke Lamora on the chart?

If fucking Night Angel got in, then Lies deserves to.

In fact, Night Angel should be replaced with Lightbringer.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 00:05:34 No.6676175
>>6676149
>Why no Lies of Locke Lamora on the chart?
http://fuckyeahscifiwomenofcolour.tumblr.com/post/37413846476/author-scott-lynch-responds-to-a-critic-of-the :^)

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 00:09:49 No.6676191
>>6676175
Yes, we know that Lynch is a depressed sjw cocksucker that can't hit a deadline to save his life.

Lies of Locke Lamora is still breddy gud.
Also, bit of a double standard there, as the list also has Robin Hobbs and Brent Weeks.

In fact, looks like it also includes trash from Goodkind and Butcher as well.

10/10 list brah

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 00:10:54 No.6676193
>>6675112
>Who are your favorite Knights/Knightlike characters of Fantasy
Best Knight.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 00:16:47 No.6676212
>>6675129
Pedantic autist.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 00:20:51 No.6676228
>>6676093

Yea. that's painful enough then some people calling the novel long. like lol you could read it in a night or two. what the fuck its so quick,

who the fuck are these people where do the crawl out from.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 00:25:25 No.6676244
>>6676093
Orson Scott Card is an outspoken homophobe, but yeah people need to learn to separate artist from art

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 00:28:36 No.6676253
>>6676244
>Orson Scott Card is an outspoken homophobe
You say that like it's a bad thing?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 00:52:04 No.6676322
>>6676253

Homosexuality is useful though, people have too many kids these days.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 00:56:32 No.6676331
>>6676253
>discriminating against people for something that doesn't negatively effect society whatsoever

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 00:56:33 No.6676332
>>6676093
use new text document for your catalog

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 00:59:58 No.6676349
>>6676331
>implying that the entire retarded gay pride movement isn't responsible for the retarded otherkin shit we have now
>implying that AIDS doesn't negatively impact society
k

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 01:01:36 No.6676357
>>6676349

Blaming gay people for AIDs is like blaming drunk people for liver cancer. They made their choice, they live with it, not my problem.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 01:02:02 No.6676363
>>6676349
Retards have always existed

AIDs is also spread by heterosexual Africans and heroin addicts.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 01:09:53 No.6676384
>>6675112
I am six books in on the Drizzit R.A. Salvatore novels and just finished book I of Glen Cook's Black Company.

Does the Black Company series stay consistently good? I really enjoyed the first novel of his. Also, I saw that Sword Bearer by Glen Cook in that list - is it a stand alone fantasy novel by him or is it tied in with the Black Company series?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 01:13:35 No.6676391
>>6676384
>I am six books in on the Drizzit R.A. Salvatore novels


SHIT NIGGER WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 01:18:12 No.6676406
>>6675973
I've read most of the books in the series. Modesitt is trying to do something by telling the same story over and over, but the best books are about the Chaos mages.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 01:54:43 No.6676504
>>6675827
Vurt is pretty good.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 02:11:59 No.6676567
Stories with good waifu material?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 03:01:19 No.6676755
>>6676406
I've got most of the books from a garage sale and I tried reading the second but it didn't have the same pull as the first (Magic of Recluce)
Which ones do you recommend?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 03:11:59 No.6676817
>>6676391
i did the same thing, just to see why so many people like Drizzt
Some of the worst shit I've ever read, but i forced myself to read it to see if it'd get any better or see if i'd eventually undersatnd the popularity.
Nope.

i started reading fantasy novels with this in my 20s. Pretty good.
I didn't read Forgotten Realms stuff until i was 30.
I'm a late comer when it comes to reading fantasy. Currently reading the Malazan series.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 03:29:16 No.6676887
I think if you haven't spent time with Thomas Malory then you've really missed out. Le Morte D'Arthur is one of the most deeply enjoyable narratives in the English language. If you want chivalry, this is the book for you.

The Norton Critical Edition of the Winchester manuscript is the best one, IF, and only if, you ignore all the fucking footnotes. They only serve to fuck up and mangle the flow. Which is absurd, because this book is all about narrative flow. The language is archaic as shit, but fifty pages in your brain will have adjusted and you'll have no real problems. I know, I know, it's challenging, but it honestly is thoroughly enjoyable.

http://www.amazon.com/Morte-Darthur-Norton-Critical-Editions/dp/0393974642

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 03:36:40 No.6676917
>>6675886
>>6675914
>>6675919
Same here. Maybe it's a browser thing, are you guys on Firefox?

>>6675827
>that new Abercrombie novel that I forgot the name of (some kind of viking setting, and I forgot most of the plot of the first novel as well).
I found the first novel kinda lame so didn't bother with the second. Let us know if it's an improvement.

>>6675960
It's talked about constantly in every fantasy thread. There are about 3 or 4 massive fanboys who won't hear a word said against it.

>>6676193
Agreed.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 04:18:08 No.6677080
>>6676817
They are obviously entry-level books, I don't know why you bothered going back to them once you were already a seasoned reader.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 05:03:28 No.6677271
>>6677080
entry level for fantasy nerds or entry level for 10 year olds? Because it definitely felt like the latter, but i figured that if college aged nerds in the 80s fell in love with him from these books, i should give it a shot.
Gotta start from the beginning, even though i didn't with Dragonlance, which actually did hold up... the Twins books, anyway. The first series was just meh.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 06:48:02 No.6677584
>>6677271
For kids dude, or at most for adolescents.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 07:17:34 No.6677666
Sir Able of the High Heart
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Anonymous 2015-06-12 07:20:17 No.6677674
>>6676322
People have too few actually. + homos now buy themselves children anyway.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 07:21:52 No.6677677
>>6676363
Almost half of all people who have contracted aids are fuccbois. So it in fact is mostly spread by gays.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 08:00:40 No.6677767
>>6677584
If it's for kids, it's well done then.
Better than harry potter and other stupid kid novels, but i judged it as something just for college nerds... so it was pretty bad.

I expected it to be at least Dragonlance Chronicles level and that actually got better as i went through the series.
I seriously don't get the love Forgotten Realms gets.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 11:06:23 No.6678158
What are some fantasy novels set in the past but not in the classical "middle age europe" setting?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 11:11:12 No.6678171
>>6678158
Powder Mage trilogy

french revolution type setting

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 11:11:34 No.6678175
>>6678158
Lord of Light
Dark Tower
anything by Gaiman really

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 11:28:25 No.6678220
>>6676384
>Does the Black Company series stay consistently good?
I think so, but they seem much slower than the first 3 books. I just finished them a few days ago and it's definitely worth reading because it tells you much more about the companies history. The writing also gets much better towards the end i think.
I dont think sword bearer has anything to do with the series.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 14:24:46 No.6678739
So I want to get into more Sci-Fi material, but I'm not really into sciency stuff. What are some series that feel more like a Fantasy set in a space or futuristic setting?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 14:34:03 No.6678769
>>6678739
What do you usually read?

If you like classic lit
>Frankenstein

If you're okay with a bit of camp and pulp
>The Stars My Destination
>Childhood's End

If you like world building and a macro fantasy feel
>Ancillary Justice
>Dune

If you like PEWPEW LAZER GUNS
>The Forever War
>Starship Troopers

If you like to be fucked with or tripped out
>Ubik
>Dr. Bloodmoney

These are all pretty entry level and don't go into the science of the mechanism. The only exceptions are Frankenstein - which gives some alchemy bullshit and The Forever War - which is short and essentially skippable.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 14:35:58 No.6678779
>>6676384
no
every book is worse than the previous one
well, up to book 7, i quit then

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 14:39:50 No.6678798
Man, why do we always have to combine SF and Fantasy? They're two vastly different monsters.

only one has merit

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 14:42:26 No.6678805
>>6678798

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 15:11:30 No.6678876
>>6678798
This is the one thread where everyone stops pretending to be patrician, makes sense to merge genre lit interests into one thread.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 15:15:19 No.6678889
>>6678769
Not the guy who asked, but is there anything that's swords 'n sorcery/epic fantasy but in a space/sci-fi setting? I really enjoyed the setting of Destiny (even though the game itself is dogshit), but I haven't been able to find a book that approximates it. John Carter of Mars is the closest thing but it looks a little too Golden Age of Sci-Fi for my tastes though. Still worth reading?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 15:17:18 No.6678895
>>6678889
Anne Mccaffrey?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 15:20:27 No.6678913
>>6678895
Looks worth checking out, cheers mate

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 15:23:02 No.6678921
>>6678913
Picture unrelated, by the way. I think Gene Wolfe does some stuff related too, in The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories and Other Stories.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 15:35:08 No.6678967
>>6678769
>The Stars My Destination
>camp

That does not feel accurate to me at all.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 15:54:07 No.6679024
>>6678889
Gene Wolfe's book of the new sun







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