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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:05:22 No.6680048

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That's right bitches.

Post Duolingo progress and experiences. One day we won't be monolingual plebs, we're all gonna make it.


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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:14:31 No.6680078
Jack shit until you can read Metamorphosis without stuttering or mispronouncing once

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:15:50 No.6680084
>>6680078
I couldn't do that in English.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:16:37 No.6680090
>>6680078
That's why I'm learning German.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:20:05 No.6680102
>>6680048
What constitutes being fluent in German? Also, how are you finding Duolingo? I've been looking for a method of language learning for a while now, this seems bretty gud.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:23:09 No.6680111
>>6680102
It's just a percentage number to have some visible progress. There's also earned virtual currency and "power-ups", but despite all this silly shit I'm still learning more than when I tried Rosetta Stone.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:23:51 No.6680113
>>6680078
He can read like 15 different words from it so far.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:27:09 No.6680129
>>6680102
Not him but it's very good. It's true that when I first tried it, I had some previous knowledge, but it was superficial; still, I was feeling like I really made progress. I've stopped since ~2 months ago because of study and laziness, but if you manage to go at least, say, 20-30 minutes a day on the site you won't be disappointed.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:28:13 No.6680133
>>6680111
Fair enough. Guess they've tried to gear it towards our generation. Just given it a go now and have learnt how to say "Ich bin ein Mann"

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:28:18 No.6680134
I had no idea /lit/ had these threads, anyway I think I'll post mine

Spanish is my mother tongue and I'm fluent in English, I began using Duolingo like a year and a half ago

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:31:46 No.6680145
>>6680129
It seems like something I could easily get into a habit of, especially useful seeing as it's all online and can be accessed anywhere. Trying to brush up on my music improvisation and also coding, which all requires time... I wish there were more hours in the day :(

>>6680134
How do you juggle between the different languages in your mind? What language do you even think in?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:33:15 No.6680149
>>6680134
How fluent has Duolingo alone made you in any language? I've heard completing a whole language tree is only equivalent to about a 6th grade reading level.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:39:41 No.6680165
Protip: Duolingo is bullshit. Buy yourself a good textbook and download a Michel Thomas or Pimsleur course.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:41:24 No.6680170
>>6680165
This
Take a look at the /int/ guide to learning languages

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:42:00 No.6680173
>>6680145
>>6680149

Spanish being my mother language I can easily read Italian and Portuguese. Knowing both English and Spanish make French easy as pie, plus I took French as a subject in middleschool. In highschool I started taking private classes of German and used Duolingo for complementing. I'm currently at B1.1 in the German course I'm taking and Duolingo is really helpful for vocab and grammar. Use Duolingo guys, it's been really helpful, however don't just stick to it, use some complementary material too. Hope that helps.

Btw I'm an 18 year old living in the thirld world, what's your excuse for not learning foreign languages faggots?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:43:01 No.6680180
>>6680170
That's literally a massive waste of time

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:44:02 No.6680185
>>6680165
Pimsleur is pretty good, don't know about the other one though. However, I wouldn't say Duolingo is completely useless.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:45:21 No.6680191
>>6680173
By being a privalaged cis white male in an english speaking country

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:46:35 No.6680197
>>6680180
Why? Because it reccommends hard work and not le 5 minutes a day?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:49:43 No.6680212
>>6680197
Not him, but do you have any good textbook recs?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:50:15 No.6680218
>tfw when I was a kid I learned English from watching subtitled TV and video games
>had 4 years of French in high school and literally all I can say is 'Hello, my name is Anon, I live in Faggotville with my parents, and have one sister.'.


We should just let kids watch subtitled cartoons and make them play video games in elementary school and skip the whole bullshit later on.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:52:16 No.6680228
>>6680212
Living Language is a safe bet.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:54:32 No.6680236
>>6680218
That's different, you HAVE to learn the lingua franca.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:55:05 No.6680237
>>6680165
You should use several approachs. Grammar book, vocab, audio, assimil type course, in whichever order or a few at once.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:56:26 No.6680242
>>6680197
>Hard work
>/int/'s wiki

My sides

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:57:17 No.6680248
>>6680237
I used a grammar book, Michel Thomas (which is audio and vocal) and Anki (for vocab). After completing the book and the audio course, I was ready to start reading books. But I still lack speaking confidence. I'm planning to visit France soon to work on that.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:59:28 No.6680260
>>6680218
It's amazing how much plasticity the brain of a child has and how quickly they can learn stuff. If I ever decide to have children, I think I'd try and provide them with as much material to learn from as possible.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:00:39 No.6680262
>>6680242
If you want to make decent progress you should spend at least 1h doing grammar drills and 1h participating with an audio course per day when humanly possible. Plus miscellaneous tasks like building your vocab with Anki and immersing yourself in the art and media of the language. I like to read Amazon reviews and Wikipedia articles in my language.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:01:05 No.6680264
>>6680228
>click onto their site
>first language is dothraki

Why would anybody seriously want to learn this? It's completely useless...

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:01:20 No.6680266
>>6680260
Yeah, you can stretch and squish them into all sorts of shapes and they spring right back.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:04:55 No.6680283
How do I Tai Lopez™ learn a language in 10 minutes?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:06:14 No.6680288
>>6680266
>tfw people actually used to do that to their children as they thought it would make them more powerful
>tfw /x/ thinks they are actually ayy lmao's

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:06:51 No.6680290
>>6680242
You're right man perfecting grammar is easy, just use your meme iphone apps

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:08:10 No.6680293
>>6680290
Trivialize it all you want. Duolingo is a proven success.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:35:53 No.6680359
What does lit think of the method of language learning by memorizing a book from your native language and then reading a translations of it?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:43:33 No.6680384
>>6680359
Why memorize an entire book? Why not just read them side-by-side?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:43:37 No.6680385
>>6680293
Yeah well good luck. I seriously doubt you will ever achieve anything resembling fluency with that attitude.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:43:45 No.6680386
>>6680048
I feel like just by being a native speaker of English a person would be over 4% fluent in German

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:44:09 No.6680391
I don't think their estimation is very accurate.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:46:52 No.6680403
>>6680165
It's not though, is it?

As long as you use other resources it's a helpful tool.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:49:36 No.6680413
>>6680403
>>6680165
Duolingo is a good resource, but it shouldn't be the only resource that one uses in order to learn a language.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:50:42 No.6680414
>>6680384
I don't know but I know quite a few people have used that method successfully. Maybe it won't get you proficient but I'm sure it's a massive help when starting.

Also I'm sure it's nice to have great passages to read in your head at any time.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:51:33 No.6680419
>>6680413
I've basically just started learning, but my general plan is to finish the entire programme and then actually read German, from childrens books and then progress from there. Good plan or no?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:53:01 No.6680423
>>6680419
Start reading those books as soon as possible and then when you finish Duolingo you should look into "graded readers."

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:55:44 No.6680437
I'm disappointed that there's no attic greek for duolingo. I've been learning with a textbook and supplement texts for a few months.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:09:29 No.6680477
>>6680048
Is duolingo any good in strengthening your knowing of a language? Let's say I used to be fluent in French but now can only hold basic conversations. Is there some kind of pre-test that will determine my level so I don't have to go through the basics?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:11:27 No.6680484
>>6680437
This.

No Latin or Greek. It's shit.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:11:33 No.6680485
>>6680477
>Is there some kind of pre-test that will determine my level so I don't have to go through the basics?
Yes, you can select it right away.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:12:49 No.6680489
>>6680484
Nobody is stopping you from learning Latin right now. You could easily go out and get Lingua Latina per se Illustrata or Wheelock's Latin.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:12:52 No.6680490
>>6680173
My foreign language is English, and I want to write fluently in it.

Also, what's your excuse not studying STEM field on your spare time?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:16:40 No.6680501
>>6680489
Mate, I'm a Latin teacher. I'm simplying lamenting the lack of resource for future learners.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:18:19 No.6680511
>>6680165
>Protip: Duolingo is bullshit.

Nah, you can legit learn to read most Spanish or French books via duolingo lessons alone. Your pronunciation will be shit, tho.

The German duolingo course is ass. Not nearly as comprehensive as it should be.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:18:36 No.6680513
>>6680501
Oh, well, it should be one of the next languages. Lots of people are talking about it on Duolingo itself.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:18:41 No.6680514
>>6680501
>I'm a Latin teacher
I'll think of you when I feel redundant

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:20:58 No.6680528
>>6680514
Please don't. Chemistry teacher first, Greek and Latin tutor second. Shit's cash.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:23:17 No.6680541
>>6680528
>Shit's cash.

How is unemployability and lack of students cash?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:24:20 No.6680546
>>6680541
>>6680514
Unnecessary

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:26:53 No.6680557
>>6680541
I'm fully employed and have many students. Your lack of appreciation for the beauty and value of Latin and Greek betrays your ignorance.

Are the Duolingo units user-submitted? Can people contribute to them?

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:29:10 No.6680571
>>6680557
the new courses are user-generated and anyone can apply to contribute

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:29:42 No.6680574
>>6680557
>Are the Duolingo units user-submitted? Can people contribute to them?
Yes, they are made by users. It has to go to the incubator to get started (incubator.duolingo.com) and then people work on them.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:31:47 No.6680585
>>6680165
>tfw michel thomas Italian plus duolingo

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:51:46 No.6680678
>>6680260
So that your kid can surpass you and be superior to you intellectually? Fuck that noise, if I don't make it, neither will my faggot kid.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:53:14 No.6680684
>>6680557
>Your lack of appreciation for the beauty and value of Latin and Greek betrays your ignorance.

But my post didn't make any value judgments about Latin or Greek, you shitty thinker.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:54:51 No.6680689
>>6680678
If you don't make it you probably won't have a kid in the first place

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:59:25 No.6680706
>>6680170
The /int/ guide is where I fucking found duolingo.

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 00:59:20 No.6680960
I've been using Duolingo since I saw it on a TED talk. Finding it far better than Rosetta Stone.

Any tips on learning outside of it? I've just been watching/reading stuff in french so far.

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 01:10:48 No.6681014
>>6680960
Michel Thomas and a textbook is GOAT imo.

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 01:12:52 No.6681021
>>6680960
Surround yourself in the language.

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 02:55:23 No.6681506
Please add me if you have an account. Having friends on Duolingo helps me with motivation.

https://www.duolingo.com/PutinKhuilo

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 03:00:43 No.6681535
>>6680048
I hope you know this fluency stat is bullshit m8
Apparently I'm 20% fluent in German, when I don't really understand shit after two years of studying in a proper course. Granted I'm a lazy ass who should sit down and actually practice a bit everyday, but still.

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 03:04:37 No.6681554
>>6680048
honestly duolingo could be soooooooo much better, considering how big it is.

it should be learning from your fuck-ups and developing refreshers based on that. but their algorithms are fucked..in the vocab section, words that are completely batshit easy and i never get wrong are "weak" and words i always forget are "strong."

what the fuck are they doing. i wish i knew how to program, because i would be all over that shit.

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 03:05:53 No.6681560
>>6681554
>what the fuck are they doing
They have a limited amount of staff, not much money, and tens of millions of users. On top of that, it's free. They are doing a very good job as it is, even if lots of stuff could be improved.

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 03:07:57 No.6681574
>>6681560
oh shut the fuck up, you white knight faggot. if they had any business sense at all, they'd figure out how to generate some capital out of tens of millions of users and get some decent programmers to actually perform the function that the site is trying to promote

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 03:15:20 No.6681608
>>6681574
There is no need to get upset and use triggering words.

Duolingo just got a lot more money from investors because they are looking for new ways to monetize the site since relying on translations (or at least solely on translations) was obviously not going to get them anywhere. And yes, they will do exactly what you mentioned.

http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/10/duolingo-raises-45-million-series-d-round-led-by-google-ventures-now-valued-at-470m/

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 03:19:25 No.6681620
>>6681506
same again
https://www.duolingo.com/mjtischer

add me gayboys

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 04:07:45 No.6681810
>>6680048
duo is good cos you hear how it should be said and can practice just by ear. better w michel thomas though

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 04:11:27 No.6681823
making some progress on my french

I actually speak german and english decently, I know some latin from school, and tiny bits of danish, italian and mandarin.

also: dont really on duolingo alone, supplement your learning with other websites, reading books + talking to actual people

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 04:13:23 No.6681833
monolingual dilettante here

i always give up

fucking hate language

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 04:13:25 No.6681834
>>6681823
*rely fml it's late

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 06:34:08 No.6682257
>>6680165
this

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 14:33:12 No.6683486
Where the hell do I find the percentage fluency thing everyone is posting?

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 14:56:38 No.6683575
>>6683486
should be fairly obvious on the right side of the page

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 19:22:19 No.6684359
>>6683486
>>6683575
Not everyone has it because it is a feature still being tested.

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 19:29:36 No.6684375
>>6680078
Kafka ain't that hard though.

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 20:04:47 No.6684464
>>6680165
anyone have some good French textbook recommendations

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 20:45:42 No.6684589
>>6684464
Victor Hugo
Guy de Maupassant
Flaubert
Marivaux

and in more modern Kind:
La cantatrice Chauve of Eugène Ionesco
L'expérience of Christophe Bataille
Everything from Daniel Pennac.

(Older writer speak with a very different vocabulary, it's understable once you speak french, but word in these books won't help you learning)

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 21:29:38 No.6684729
>>6680111
I hate Rosetta stone
>learn through immersion
b-but what about the c-conjugations?

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 22:45:17 No.6684928
Checking in duobros

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 22:55:19 No.6684957
>>6680165
Duolingo is half decent as a starter course, but anyone who thinks that they will be fluent using it by itself is retarded.

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 23:13:07 No.6684986
Duolingo's all right, I guess. I finished the language tree a while ago. Now I'm working on speaking and listening on top of a load of French lit.

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 23:37:19 No.6685051
>>6684986
How do I check fluency

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 23:44:51 No.6685064
>>6680165
I've learned so much more from pimsleur than from duolingo, and I'm almost done with the French tree in Duo.

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Anonymous 2015-06-14 00:08:29 No.6685113

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Anonymous 2015-06-14 01:57:00 No.6685476
>>6681535
I guess it all depends on the teacher, i learned a shit-ton in high school French.







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