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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:00:20 No.7130283

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>This week Melbourne University’s Ormond College blocked access to porn websites on its Wi-Fi network,statingthe genre does not allow people at a “formative stage of life” to develop a “healthy sexuality”.

>The college’s master – theologian and ethicist Dr Rufus Black – argued in a newsletter to the college’s 400 students that pornography was exploitative, objectifies women and “presents women primarily as sex objects who are a means to the end of male pleasure”.

Which parts of theology and ethics come to this airtight conclusion?

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/18/universities-bans-on-pornography-enable-more-freedoms-than-they-take-away


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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:04:18 No.7130293
Why is Australia such a fucking nanny state?

What's wrong with you people?

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:04:43 No.7130294
porn is shit from a personal development perspective
feminists would shoot themselves in the foot if they ever banned porn though

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:05:30 No.7130298
>>7130283
/lit/ - literature

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:07:22 No.7130302
>australia

i'm surprised it wasn't already banned

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:09:23 No.7130307
>>7130283
what about gay male porn
what is exploitative about real 'amateur' porn

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:10:30 No.7130311
>>7130294
in what way would feminists be shooting themselves in the foot?


my psychology major sister keeps spewing all this bullshit rhetoric about how porn increases rape rates
>muh psychological studies
why is psychology consistently the softest science bros?

I'm not really in favour of porn because i think it feeds into that instant gratification/ hedonistic lazy dynamic thats so prevalent in millenial culture and is basically fast food for you libedo

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:20:39 No.7130325
>>7130283
Virtue ethics because it is contrary to virtue as it is just indulgence in videos of people fucking.
Kantian ethics because fapping to a girl being anally ravaged is contrary to your rational being and certainly not the highest point that you could be doing in that moment.
Theology in the part that sex is sacred and body is a temple of the holy spirit so it's twice the sacrilege.

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:22:53 No.7130330
>>7130311
Feminism is in favor of sexual liberation, was from the start. Porn is just a form of sexually liberated women making money from it.

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:23:29 No.7130332
>>7130283
>Feminists trying to control male sexuality yet again
>Meanwhile a woman buying a dildo is "empowering"

What's new?

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:28:07 No.7130342
>>7130332
The fact that this was banned because it's contrary to Christian morality, not feminist retardation.

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:30:34 No.7130347
>>7130342
The Catholic Church literally offered whores to men for money for centuries m8.

You're ignorant of history.

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:32:20 No.7130350
>>7130347
the church is notoriously hypocritical, it still attempts to put on a good face while high profile members of the clergy rape young children

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:33:53 No.7130351
>>7130350
So what? They still claim to be Christian.

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:34:57 No.7130352
>>7130351
thats what im saying

the actions of the church =! christian morality

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:35:34 No.7130354
>>7130347
Source? Since this is literally the first time I've ever heard this, and they have shitposted a lot of stuff about the cc during the centuries.
But even if it's true it's really not doctrinaly important.

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:36:00 No.7130356
>>7130330
They'd find a way to have it both ways; they always do.

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:36:17 No.7130357
>>7130352
If you can show me where in Christian morals it is wrong for people to have consensual sex while being videotaped, I'd be happy to retract my statement.

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:37:59 No.7130361
>>7130356
Well feminism was never coherent, so you are right, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't shoot themselves in the foot.
Or in the head, make the world a better place

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:39:24 No.7130365
>>7130357
>>7130357
where big jesus says to be a generally nice person

but also
>where in Christian morals

do you know how stupid that sounds?

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:39:26 No.7130366
>>7130357
>what is lust
And if you think the primary problem is the production of pornography in itself, you're kind of missing the point.

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:42:53 No.7130372
>>7130357
Theology of the body by John Paul II.
There should be a pdf on the net for the actual thing. Ctrlf part about pornography, dignity and marriage.

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:43:00 No.7130373
>>7130365
>>7130366
The point is that making pornography illegal has nothing to with Christian morals.

If you actually read what the article said i.e:

>argued in a newsletter to the college’s 400 students that pornography was exploitative, objectifies women and “presents women primarily as sex objects who are a means to the end of male pleasure”.

Which is a typical feminist tract, and it's also exceptionally ironic coming from a theologian, considering there has been no single thing in history more repressive to females than Christianity.

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:43:27 No.7130375
Women are sex objects.

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:44:02 No.7130378
>>7130283
how is this problematic?
it's a uni network

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:44:52 No.7130380
>>7130373
Yes but that's a phrase used by Christians a lot, for decades, before feminism became a mainstream retardation.

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:45:00 No.7130381
>>7130375
Everyone is

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:46:31 No.7130387
>>7130311
>I'm not really in favour of porn because i think it feeds into that instant gratification/ hedonistic lazy dynamic thats so prevalent in millenial culture and is basically fast food for you libedo
I use it as motivation and reward, tbh.

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:46:43 No.7130388
>>7130283
Stop shitting up the board you fucking dumb frogposter

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:47:52 No.7130394
>>7130380
>Yes but that's a phrase used by Christians a lot, for decades, before feminism became a mainstream retardation.

Bullshit. The argument used against pornography by the Church is that it is a mortal sin to lust, not because of "muh women's rights"

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:51:06 No.7130410
>>7130373
christians are inherently sexually conservative so anything as far out as porn is going to be against their "morals" im not a christian but youre completely misrepresenting them

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:52:25 No.7130414
>>7130394
It's mortal sin as well as presenting women and men as sexual objects obviously of lust. Lust is objectification in context of porn. There is a lot more behind the Christian argument, but it is when being presented to secular institutions phrased in this way, maybe a little different. Just because someone picked the argument up doesn't mean it isn't not their.

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:52:29 No.7130415
>>7130381
Wish I could watch that on my igay

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:52:30 No.7130416
>>7130388
Yeah, wouldn't want to shit up the bastion of quality that is 4chan

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Anonymous 2015-09-18 11:55:16 No.7130422
>>7130414
So what you're really saying is that Feminists are actually peddling Christian morality.







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