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it's a word you easily hear around here.
is it social class?is it a matter of tastes?
is it the fact that those who say it view themselves as modern day patricians?
and if it's the taste that qualifies you as a pleb,what is it?
or is it just an attitude towards life
Anonymous 2013-01-16 13:02:15 No.3363546
forgot the question mark
Anonymous 2013-01-16 13:03:03 No.3363548
It's /mu/ slang. Keep it off of /lit/.
Anonymous 2013-01-16 13:05:24 No.3363553
>is it the fact that those who say it view themselves as modern day patricians?
Yes, if it's not used ironically.
>and if it's the taste that qualifies you as a pleb,what is it?
Not having the same opinion as pretentious and unsecure teenagers.
Anonymous 2013-01-16 13:06:32 No.3363559
I want all dickweeds from /mu/ to get the fuck back to their pathetic excuse for a board. Not even mad.
Anonymous 2013-01-16 13:14:15 No.3363573
it's a philistine
Anonymous 2013-01-16 13:15:32 No.3363580
To a marxist, the workers, the ones who represent the "people". Everyday workers with good honest values and clear-headed common sense. Tastes run to simple, high quality fare. Harvard Classics and genre greats and the stuff you read in college lit classes. Salt of the Earth.
Opposite is Patrician: To a Randian, the one percent: sophisticated and discriminating in tastes, privileged aesthetics who deserve to lord it over others. Characterized by pretension and a distaste for genres and conventions, very much a follower of trends. expect them to hold modern (or post modern) authors up to comaprision with classic greats. Not a lot of depth, breadth or variety in their choices: it's not their thing. Again, Randian elitists, disdain the bread and Tolkiens of the hoi poloi in favor of DFW, or Rand, or Ellis.
Neither of these is an objective putdown by the way: Yelling " Pleb" at someone or "patrician" is more like yelling "Yank" Or "Reb" or maybe "Hillbilly" and "Flatlander"(or slicker). it doesnt really insult hte other person, just separates you from their camp. ( a reb doenst mind beign called that, nor does a hillbilly or a yankee)
Hope this helps
Anonymous 2013-01-16 13:20:17 No.3363589
If you don't know what a pleb is, then you're most likely one yourself.
Anonymous 2013-01-16 13:24:38 No.3363598
Except that is bullshit.
Anonymous 2013-01-16 13:38:41 No.3363628
How so? The roamn Plebians were for the most part the workers and the lower classes, with maybe some artisans and petit bourgeoisie when there were any.The plebians were the proles, and the patricians were the aristos, for the most part. where is this wrong?
Anonymous 2013-01-16 13:56:55 No.3363655
never been on /mu/.actually i'm pretty new around here too.
don't know if it's a /lit/ thing or not.personally i don't care.what i was asking /lit/ is:"if you think there are people you could call plebs,what makes you call them that?"
Anonymous 2013-01-16 13:57:48 No.3363658
a) the Romans has a group called proletarii, it was distinct from the plebs and more or less the same as the capite censi. Those were citizens who don't own property, which was not the case for Plebeians.
b) The term proletariat in the way we think of it (as a marxist/sociological term) does not apply easily to Roman society, and the term petit bourgeoisie even less, simply because the economic relations and the modes of production are very different. If you absolutely have to apply our modern category, the proletariat would be the proletarii (guess where we got the word from), not the plebs.
Anonymous 2013-01-16 14:06:24 No.3363674
Back to /mu/, all of you.
Anonymous 2013-01-16 14:12:16 No.3363686
It's a matter of taste, it should be used tongue in cheek to imply that someone's tastes are inferior, unrefined or commonplace. It comes from /mu/, where it was Cannabis-Loving Tripfag's preferred insult, and he would refer to himself and his taste as patrician.
Anonymous 2013-01-16 14:19:16 No.3363697
i must admit that i started the thread hoping to find someone with somewhat definite idea of what makes a pleb but i think>>3363686
this is all there is to say about it.
i actually feel kinda stupid for this.
Anonymous 2013-01-16 14:24:45 No.3363705
The BBC did a piece about you guys:
Anonymous 2013-01-16 14:37:32 No.3363732
okay, now i really want to know more: How were the proletarii differentiated from the plebians>? was it a subclass? a role? how would the word-choice of the marxists be influenced by this? Was plebian a negative term for someone who didn't own property (that is, the means of production) while proletariate was more neutral? were they separate groups? were they coinclusive or subgroups of a broader class? would they have self-identified this way? Tell me more!
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