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Anonymous 2013-03-12 14:16:39 No.8863972

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Why do the normalfags love Wing/Seed and hate G/Victory, while it's the opposite with the mechafags?


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Anonymous 2013-03-12 14:20:20 No.8863982
If you mean as normalfags=fujoshi,then it's pretty obvious.

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 14:20:52 No.8863986
Because they want something relatively serious if they're going to watch a cartoon.

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 14:25:20 No.8863996
>>8863972
People hate on G because it doesn't fit their idea of what Gundam should be.

>mah deep political and tragic war drama that's totally unrealistic

Basically, it's because they're idiots.

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 14:47:31 No.8864056
B-But....I like Wing and G.

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 14:56:51 No.8864086
>>8863972
/m/ hates Wing? Guess I do disagree with the hivemind on something.

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 14:59:18 No.8864095
>>8864086
Wing is pretty bad.

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 15:03:07 No.8864112
>>8864095
B-But. . . H-Heero is the protagonist we needed.

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 15:04:36 No.8864115

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>>8864112

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 15:10:09 No.8864130
>>8864086
Well, I always see /m/ complaining about it and Seed

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 15:12:22 No.8864135
>>8864115
Who gives lesser fucks than Heero though?

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 15:14:07 No.8864140
>normalfags
who are this people? If you mean the casual anime fan that only knows of gundam through CN and Toonami, I am pretty sure most of this people don't even know Victory exists.

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 15:15:09 No.8864145
Do they really hate Victory? Like X, most people haven't seen it, so they'd have to be pretty dumb to hate it.

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 15:16:30 No.8864152
>>8864140
It's the code word for "anyone that doesn't regularly post on 4chan"

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 15:19:31 No.8864169
>>8864145
Well, I watched X and Victory and really liked both of them. But most people who watched them and are not into mecha anime hated them(ok, some of them liked X, mot not as much as the Wing, Seed and the Original Series.

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 15:22:27 No.8864181
>>8864169
That sounds like some pretty weird tastes.

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 15:24:37 No.8864185

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>>8864135

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 15:31:51 No.8864210
>>8864185
Who as in Gundam pilot.

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 15:36:16 No.8864217
>>8864210
Garrod

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 15:50:25 No.8864241
>>8864217
Nah. He's still pretty easy to make care if you involve Tifa.

Hell, most of the last arc happened cause he gave fucks.

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 17:40:58 No.8864471
ITT Generalizing.

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 17:48:01 No.8864478
>>8863986
I don't know how you could take SEED seriously

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 17:49:37 No.8864480
>>8864169
Don't be silly.
Nobody other than me and two other guys on /m/ watched X.

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 19:22:15 No.8864685
>>8864480
I think you're wrong, since everyone seems to like it around here. Well, it's still a very unknow series around anime fans in general.

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 19:28:20 No.8864697
I have victory. Love X though.

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 19:31:34 No.8864705
>>8864697
Going through victory at the moment (only at ep 10 though) what's wrong with it?

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 19:33:11 No.8864711
>>8864705
Its just a personal thing where I'm just really not a fan of Tomino when he's super depressed. I don't really like Ideon either. Zeta is pretty meh in my opinion as well

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 19:42:30 No.8864734
>>8864705
I'm not who you quoted, but I must say it's a pretty regular series. Uso and Shakti are characters I really love, but this series have a lot of dumb idiot characters. Have fun, it's totally worth watching!

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 19:49:38 No.8864756
>>8864705
my brain almost exploded watching it

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 19:50:33 No.8864758
>>8863972

I like Wing, But hate seed

I like G too.

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Anonymous 2013-03-12 19:54:05 No.8864764

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>>8864135
This is my personal vote.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 07:14:50 No.8866565

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>>8864711
You know, I never thought realized that I liked depressed tomino so much.

I really enjoyed Ideon and liked Victory and Zambot.

I really didn't care for X all that much. It seemed to really fall flat all over the place.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 07:19:35 No.8866579

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>>8863972
But I like Wing, SEED, G AND Victory.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 07:20:20 No.8866582
>>8864705
My personal problem with Victory is that its billed as UC when it really isn't UC at all.
Turn A felt more like it was in the Universal Century because it was, but still.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 09:27:11 No.8866767
>>8866582
>Victory is that its billed as UC when it really isn't UC at all.
Elaborate.
Not enough glorious Zeon for you?

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Fllay Allster 2013-03-13 09:50:54 No.8866801
>>8866767
lol at these pathetic people trying to create their own UC where no Victory (or F91) is present. I'm betting pretty much that these same people are the ones crying foul at Unicorn

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 09:54:11 No.8866804
>>8866767

&%$# the Zanscare Empire's logo is a fricken Z!!!

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 10:16:39 No.8866826
>>8866579
Wing Gundam, why are you crying.

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Captain Synapse 2013-03-13 11:11:45 No.8866896
>>8866582
How isn't it UC Gundam? It might not have Zeon as a faction, but I would hope that is not some defining trait of UC. Its got newtypes, Gundam, the Earth Federation, the biggest psychoframe ever, a war between earth and some of its colonies, massive superweapons, Salamis cruisers, Jovian influence in a earthsphere war, and probably more shit that I can't even think of. So, how does it not fit into UC exactly.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 11:13:40 No.8866898
>>8866896
Massive retardation is the only possible answer.

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Fllay Allster 2013-03-13 11:15:00 No.8866899
>>8866898
Zeonfags crying foul, then there's the MUH REALIZM crowd that worship 0080, 0083 and 8th MS

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 11:15:40 No.8866901
>>8866899
Like I said, massive retardation.

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Captain Synapse 2013-03-13 11:34:42 No.8866913
>>8863972
The only one of those that I don't particularly like is G Gundam. I don't think it's necessarily bad, it just isn't my thing. Victory is my favorite out of the ones you listed, but I think you are over-generalizing things a bit.

Most of the more casual watchers I know still enjoy stuff like Zeta or Victory.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 11:36:04 No.8866915
>>8864152
you mean a new buzzword

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 11:41:48 No.8866923
>>8866898

I like this answer.

>>8866899
>>8866901

Zeonfags can still like Victory.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 13:37:40 No.8867065
>>8864705 here
Just finished ep 14. Tomino really doesn't like the shrike team doesn't he. This is becoming pretty fucking depressing.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 13:55:41 No.8867085
I didnt mind Wing, or G, couldnt stand Seed at all.

But I prefer the war, 0080, 0083 "except Cole and Nina, that shits retarded." 8thms

Ive yet to see Zeta.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 14:11:17 No.8867108
>>8866913
It's really understandable, Captain, considering how much it strays from the "real" tradition. I love G, but I can understand why someone wouldn't like it or whatever. Same as why someone wouldn't like, say, Turn A (wacky mechs) or X (too lighthearted).

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 14:54:19 No.8867210
I blame Bandai for the lack of love for Gundam in the west: they could have marketed and licensed the UC series back in the late 80s/early 90s, when there was the whole craze of anime series (when Bubblegum Crisis was released for instance). But instead, they decided to not only release Wing until 2000, but the interest for Gundam after Wing had died down. Wing, while succesful, had not been able to form a big enough fandom that endured (like the Robotech fans). That's why so very little people care about Gundam, let alone UC.

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Fllay Allster 2013-03-13 14:55:41 No.8867213
>>8867210
they were idiots for putting wing in the US. now whenever any gundam series is brought up there, the normalfags will always compare it to W

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 15:09:43 No.8867245
I always thought it was odd that the yaoibait aspects of 00 barely got any attention from stateside faghags. People were bracing for the next generation of Wing fangirls then... Nothing. I guess it isn't a bad thing in retrospect but the added popularity may have been good for the franchise on a whole.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 15:18:01 No.8867275
I like almost all of them, except for destiny, AGE, and uh, turn A.

Sorry /m/en, it just doesn't work for me.

My favorite is probably 08th MS team or Stargazer.

I've yet to see that recent 08th MS team release too... i need to download that sometime.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 15:30:46 No.8867316

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I'm actually surprised 08th MS Team isn't MORE popular in America. It was basically tailor-made for western viewers.

Plus, Karen's still my favorite.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 15:54:20 No.8867366
>>8867210
This post reeks of stupidity. There was no license holder for the u.s. for gundam in the 80s and early 90s. Bandai Ent wasn't established until 1998. Anyone who wanted their anime on u.s. broadcasts in the 80s was subject to having it being Roboteched with other random shows.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 16:03:34 No.8867387
>>8863996
People like G because they're manchildren and think Gundam should be stupid and close to shounenshit

>HAHAHAHAHA LOOK AT ALL THESE RACIAL STEREOTYPES ND CHARACTER SHOUTING THEIR ATTACKS

Basically, it's bevause they're idiots.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 16:09:38 No.8867401
>>8867213
If it's not Wing, it's the UC OVAs, which are why so much of the west proclaims Gundam SRS WAR STORIES and Newtypes are anathema.

>>8867210
They actually did market 0080, 0083, and the MSG movies on VHS years before Wing came over. Back when anime had considerably less airing clout.

They did try before. Wing was just lucky to have the right mix of method and timing to take off.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 16:12:49 No.8867408
>>8867387
>>8863996
Please, we can always like both. I love both G and UC/X/Turn A/00/SEED too.

Not that you two don't make good points, though.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 16:14:23 No.8867412
>>8867401
>so much of the west proclaims Gundam SRS WAR STORIES
But Gundam has always been perceived as a SRS WAR STORY before its release in teh west. At least, that's how the Japanese like to see it.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 16:15:22 No.8867414
>>8867366
>Anyone who wanted their anime on u.s. broadcasts in the 80s was subject to having it being Roboteched with other random shows.
To be honest, it would've been better than nothing...

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 16:17:21 No.8867421
>>8867412
not SRS WAR STORIEZ,

REALIZM.

It's kinda sad that people laugh at "Newtype bullshit" like the Axis Shock, and the Biosensor.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 16:24:04 No.8867445
>>8867421
I think it's because a minority promotes the franchise (and UC in particular) as this "hard military sci fi anime". And then they have these Jedi or whatever and realize it's just average sci fi, not "realistik mature sci fi for mature people liek me lel".

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 18:17:33 No.8867667

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>>8867445
That's how my friend finally sold it to me. "Dude, they all live in O'Neill cylinders and there are lagrange points and zero gravity, no warp drives or aliens, it's hard science as fuck".

Then you realize the plot runs on magic and arbitrary assholes.

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 18:29:35 No.8867713
I haven't met a single normalfag that's hated G. In fact most normalfags I know ONLY know Wing/G/SEED/00.

Then when I ask them about shit like ZZ, F91 or 0083 they are like "Oh wow what're those!? Are they good? Is 0083 some new season of 00?"

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Anonymous 2013-03-13 18:39:30 No.8867741
>>8864705
I didn't like VIctory because of how fucking stupid everyone was in the beginning. The adults were all "God damn, it 13 year old kid! Stop acting like a 13 year old kid!", Shakti was constantly yapping "LET'S GO BACK TO KASARELLIA! HEY DID I TELL YOU THAT WE SHOULD GET BACK TO KASARELLIA? LET'S GO BACK THERE!" and then it got kinda cool when they went to space. But then there were some creepy and weird scenes like Uso just standing there with his mom's severed head in the helmet and he's all "Welp. That's my ma."

I was disappointed with the V2 Assault Buster too. It was like 5 seconds before he got half of his shit destroyed.

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Anonymous 2013-03-14 05:25:20 No.8869252
Slightly related, but how does /m/ feel about 00?

I bought an exia gunpla because it looked cool and was on sale, is the series worth watching?

Sorry to hijack, I dont feel its worth a new thread simply for this.

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Anonymous 2013-03-14 07:38:57 No.8869752
>>8867713
>Is 0083 some new season of 00?
Why do I feel physical pain?

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Anonymous 2013-03-14 07:40:50 No.8869756
>>8869252
It's watch-able.

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Kamen Rider OOZ 2013-03-14 07:41:25 No.8869757
>>8863972
normalfags dislikes Turn A instead Victory

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Anonymous 2013-03-14 07:54:43 No.8869777
>>8869252
>S1 until episode 14
Great world-building, interesting politics, nice handling of military affairs and a new, engaging core concept for a Gundam series.
>S1 from episode 15 and onward
The 16 hour battle was handled in terribly awkward manner, Trinity brothers are introduced and the show as a whole just gets worse from there.
The last 2 episodes were good, though, but not enough to make up for the past 8.

>S2
Show completely gives up on having any sliver of originality and fall backs hard on UC tropes.
Just Zeta all over again, but felt more like SEED Destiny, really.
Again, the last episode was great, but enough to compensate for all the other bullshit.

>Movie
It has issues like pacing, lack of characterization and didn't explain many things.
However, unless you turned the subtitles off and muted the audio during Second season, the plot shouldn't really feel like it came out of nowhere.

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Anonymous 2013-03-14 07:56:06 No.8869779
>>8869777
>but not enough to compensate for all the other bullshit.*

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Anonymous 2013-03-14 08:02:15 No.8869790
>>8869252
00 gets one the most mixed reactions on /m/ out of any Gundam show. Some people hate the whole thing, some people hate season two, some people only hate half of season two, some people only hate the movie, some people don't hate any of it, etc

The only way to know if you'll like it is to watch it for yourself. You'll have people complain about UC tropes in season two, but other than the A-LAWS-Titans similarities it's exaggerated. It also starts to pull some rather crazy sci-fi shenanigans for Gundam which turns a lot of people off.

It really depends on what you go in expecting and how seriously you want to take it I guess.

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Anonymous 2013-03-14 08:11:32 No.8869802
>>8867445
This.

I had seen some Wing before I got into Gundam and the first series I saw in UC was 08th MS Team.

So while watching the original series and reading a bit more on it, I was shocked to discover that actually the whole series revolves around crazy space psychics who can feel emotions.

I quickly got over it because fuck yeah, the last arc of Gundam was awesome, but it was a bit of a jolt at the time.

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Anonymous 2013-03-14 08:12:50 No.8869804
Gendum OO a shit.
I fucking hate this shit.

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Anonymous 2013-03-14 08:15:22 No.8869807
>>8869804

Do you want brownie points?

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Anonymous 2013-03-14 15:08:49 No.8870288
>>8867414
no look at macross now. You can't even buy merchandise of it without camping the fuck out of it for pre-order because Harmony Gold cockblocked it outside of Japan.

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Anonymous 2013-03-14 15:17:32 No.8870308
>>8869804
1/10, try harder next time.

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Anonymous 2013-03-14 16:55:42 No.8870618
>>8870288
I think he was referring more to the 'Frankensteining it together with unrelated media' part of Robotech, less then 'Horde the rights like you're Humphrey Bogart in The Treasure of Sierra Madre' part.







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