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Anonymous 2013-10-17 03:14:09 No.577437

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Some faggot new york cop gave a bicyclist a ticket for not riding in the bike lane.

And another faggot new york cop gave a bicyclist a $550 ticket for going through a red light AFTER STOPPING

http://www.minds.com/blog/view/231844919164014592/guy-gets-ticketed-for-not-riding-in-bike-lane-makes-video-of-himself-smashing-into-things-in-bike-lanes

What the fuck


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Anonymous 2013-10-17 03:17:33 No.577439

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Rough day at middle school, champ?

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 03:18:49 No.577442
>>577437
You're retarded. This is completely normal and happens to lots of people, not just cyclists. LEOs don't know shit about the law.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 03:25:18 No.577447
>>577442
>Ticket for running red light
Totally normal, I agree.

>Ticket for not riding in the bike lane.
This is bullshit. Constructing bike lanes shouldn't be an excuse for marginalizing cyclists under the guise of protecting them. Gonna go out on a limb and assume you've never biked in nyc.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 03:29:54 No.577452
>>577437
>Some faggot new york cop gave a bicyclist a ticket for not riding in the bike lane.

This is certainly not against the law, and I'm not sure why he didn't call the local news and then fight it in court.

>And another faggot new york cop gave a bicyclist a $550 ticket for going through a red light AFTER STOPPING

It is illegal to run a red light whether you stop or not. Are you stupid?

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 03:31:02 No.577454
>>577447
LEOs always write tickets for things that aren't laws. That's the point.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 03:59:24 No.577487
Bike lanes can be straight up dangerous sometimes. I was on my way to class today when a guy in an SUV merged in the bike lane suddenly and stopped to double park or something. The problem was I only had about 10 feet to react and stop, which didnt happen, so I smacked into the back of him. He apologized for not looking before turning in, and I should have been keeping my head on a swivel a little more, but Christ fuckers just treat it like its a gutter half the time. my wrist hurts now.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 04:05:22 No.577492
>>577487
Get a doctor to check that out and send the bill to your friend in the SUV.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 04:16:19 No.577504
This video is old and the fact that new york's police service is retarded is even older.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 04:19:15 No.577508
>>577442
>>577454

What's an LEO?

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 04:20:51 No.577509
>>577508
Law Enforcement Officer

This video is so fucking old. Why are you all still talking about it?

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 09:04:07 No.577575

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>>577454

>five in the cube perp

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 11:38:23 No.577592
>>577509
>>577509
>This video is so fucking old. Why are you all still talking about it?
This. It's like you people are just finding out about Casey

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 13:05:01 No.577601
I got chastised by a NYPD officer for stopping at a red light. he said I was obstructing the bike lane. I only stopped because he was right there, on his horse, and I'm not sure how fast horses can gallop on asphalt. normally I just go if it's safe.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 13:14:04 No.577602
It's the cyclist's fault for getting the ticket.
Like a cop is going to try to chase you down on a bike, and like he would even be able to catch you if he did.
>go the wrong way down a one way
>shoot down alley
>maximum evasion

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 13:25:39 No.577603
>>577592
>It's like you people are just finding out about Casey

I don't know about anyone else, but I'd never heard of him until about a week ago when my friend sent me a link to the bike lane video..

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 13:46:03 No.577611

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>>577602

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 14:13:12 No.577618
>>577603
>>577592
He pisses me off and doesn't come across as genuine in his videos. All his stuff is like one big marketing campaign for himself.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 14:31:32 No.577629
I like riding my bike, I do. And I have some empathy for those who ride literally everywhere.

But some cyclists just deserve a ticket.
>Held up at home for something, so I'm late leaving for work
>Driving there
>Some shithead on a bike is in the car lane during morning rush hour, riding slow and taking his time
>Cars can't pass because it's a 2 lane road and there's no room
>There's miles of empty sidewalk for the cyclists
>He stays in the middle of the road for 5 minutes, I manage to get around him finally
>He keeps going.

Seriously, fuck that guy.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 14:36:56 No.577631
>>577629

There's no such thing as a "car lane." It's just a lane of traffic.

Don't take out your frustration of running late on other people. Sometimes there are delays on the road, it happens and you should plan for it. You may have been running late by no fault of your own, but that still gives you no right to take it out on other road users.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 14:38:14 No.577632
Nothing would make me happier than to have every cyclist who runs a red light get a ticket.

Actually, scratch that. I'd be happier if I moved back to a place where people are civilized enough to obey traffic laws.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 14:39:12 No.577633
>>577631

Oh, and he was probably in the middle of the road BECAUSE it was so narrow and unsafe to pass. In every state I know of, taking the lane when there is not enough room for a car to share your lane or otherwise safely pass is completely legal and actually advised. In some states, riding on the sidewalk is also illegal, and in all states it is ill-advised.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 14:39:48 No.577634
>>577629

So you were delayed five minutes. Big fucking deal, is it the cyclist's fault you were running late? Is your entitlement so inflated as to blame other people for your own fuckups? Here's a thread about people being ticketed for breaking the law, yet you're moaning about a cyclist operating legally, when your alternative is illegal. Fuck you, you are the problem.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 14:41:26 No.577635
>>577632

I had some cagefag honk me today because he wanted to run the red light and I was blocking him.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 14:46:19 No.577639
>>577631
>There's no such thing as a "car lane." It's just a lane of traffic.

Fair enough, but it's supposed to be for "car" traffic.

>Don't take out your frustration of running late on other people.

But it wasn't just about me running late.

>Sometimes there are delays on the road, it happens and you should plan for it
I wouldn't call a person a delay on the road I'd plan for.

>>577633
>Oh, and he was probably in the middle of the road BECAUSE it was so narrow and unsafe to pass.
He wasn't on the yellow lines or something, he was literally acting like a car. And there was enough room on the side for him to totally slip through, but not enough for a car.

>In some states, riding on the sidewalk is also illegal
Pretty sure it's not illegal here, but fuck, even if it is it was early morning and the sidewalk was completely clear.

>>577634
>So you were delayed five minutes. Big fucking deal, is it the cyclist's fault you were running late?
It was not his fault for making me late, of course. But he was being an inconvenience and a nuisance for everyone on this busy road as well.

>Is your entitlement so inflated as to blame other people for your own fuckups?
I still got to work on time, it wasn't a fuck up. I was just bothered that this guy was selfish enough to act like the only person on such a busy road in the middle of morning rush hour.

>Fuck you, you are the problem.
Oh man, this hurts!

My problem was more that he was being really goddamn selfish, because there were tons of people he was blocking. For most of the time I was 2 or 3 cars behind the car having to go slow because he decided to just keep in the center of the lane. He didn't turn, didn't try to let people go, nothing.

If I were him I wouldn't be a selfish fuck and would've let people get in front of me. Or I'd sit on the side of the road for 2 minutes, let the flood of cars go, and then keep up at it. Or I'd take a side road, because there's plenty of those.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 14:50:59 No.577643
>>577639

Boo fuckin hoo, call the waaahmbulance. Do you have a hissy pissy shitfit if plant like a tractor slows you down? Do you shit your pants if there's roadwork slowing you down? What is your anal demenour when there's heavy traffic or a breakdown? Roads are a non-deterministic shared resource, not your personal entitlement. If you can't get your shit together to be punctual, take a good hard look at yourself and stop blaming other people for the shit in your pants.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 14:55:45 No.577646

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The other day, I was out for a bike ride when I met this imbecile.

I approached the intersection shown when the light was red, and slowed to a stop. He was stopped on the other side; there was intermittent traffic going across at the time, so just running the light would have been suicidal.

Fast forward 20 seconds or so, and the traffic going across has dissipated. He begins to ride across the intersection while the light is red.

The light turns green and I start, to ride, only to find that he's decided to take a left turn in front of me and the car next to me. I nearly hit him.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 14:59:50 No.577651
>>577639

Such entitlement.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 15:00:05 No.577653
>>577643
>Do you shit your pants if there's roadwork slowing you down?
No, because that shit happens on a road. It's unavoidable, isn't person sized, and doesn't move.

>What is your anal demenour when there's heavy traffic or a breakdown?
Most people dislike traffic, but that doesn't have anything to do with a person who can totally just, like, get on the sidewalk or take one of the many sideroads instead of acting like a turtle crossing the street.

>Roads are a non-deterministic shared resource, not your personal entitlement.
>Muh bike is on the same level as a heavy machine made to go fast

>f you can't get your shit together to be punctual, take a good hard look at yourself and stop blaming other people for the shit in your pants.
It has nothing to do with me leaving my house later than I normally do. Had I left earlier I still would've been pissed that this guy was being so inconsiderate to me and every other vehicle on the road. Seriously, people were trying to turn left and right, or get off onto the highway, and he was taking his sweet ass time, going slow as fuck, like he was the only thing on the road. That's selfishness and shouldn't be excused.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 15:01:57 No.577654
>>577653

Sucks to be you.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 15:04:03 No.577656

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>>577646
Wouldn't have been too bad if he had at least indicated.
I'll admit to turning up one ways, or going against lights occasionally. (We're a 'one light' town.) But, I always signal that I'm about to do so.

Should you be looking at him? Yes, and you obviously were because you didn't actually hit him, but it's the same reason why diptydoodles get nailed by cars while riding on the sidewalk. If something is 'supposed' to happen according to traffic, many people just won't even look for it.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 15:05:16 No.577657
>>577654
What a great response. Care to explain why you think it's fine for cyclists to be selfish on busy roads, or is it totally okay to you because

>muh bike culture
>You can't kick us off the road! But don't accidentally hit us with your cars!
>People should look out for *me* because I'm in the middle of a busy road cars are trying to go down.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 15:09:57 No.577658
>>577653
>No, because that shit happens on a road. It's unavoidable, isn't person sized, and doesn't move.
So, it's worse. There's literally no chance of it clearing itself up, like a slower driver or a cyclist.

>Most people dislike traffic, but that doesn't have anything to do with a person who can totally just, like, get on the sidewalk or take one of the many sideroads instead of acting like a turtle crossing the street.
The sidewalk is dangerous to cycle on for pedestrians first and foremost, but it's also dangerous for cyclists as well. Motorists always seem to assume a cyclist is going slower than they really are, if they even see them at all.
When I was a little kid, I used to sidewalk ride all the time and had a number of very close calls with people who were making a turn and never intended to stop, people who stop at the end of the block rather than the stop line (When I was going straight along one road, from handiramp to handiramp, dig?), and people sailing in and out of drive ways. To keep my safe, to keep them safe, I'd have to go as slow as a ped and at that point I might as well walk.

Nothing is stopping me from taking backroads, generally, however, nothing is stopping you either.
I don't know if you live more out west, where town and roads are more of a grid, but going out of my way sometimes around here is far FAR more work that it would be do so in a car. (One level road to destination becomes a swiggly ass, snakey, series of uberhills a block over.)

>Muh bike is on the same level as a heavy machine made to go fast
Write your Congressmen.

>Had I left earlier I still would've been pissed that this guy was being so inconsiderate to me and every other vehicle on the road.
Why?

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 15:11:38 No.577660
Cops give drivers tickets for stupid made shit all the time, they gotta pay their wage somehow. You think riding a bike makes you too special to get tickets? This elietest attitude is why most people hate cyclists. If you can't deal with the road ride on the sidewalk and deal with the pedestrians.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 15:21:38 No.577663
>>577657
It's fine for cyclists to be selfish on busy roads because the law states that they are allowed to do so.

Try this on for size: I don't give a fuck about you or your car. If I feel that it's safer to take up the entire lane, guess what, I'm taking the entire lane. And there's nothing you can do about it.

>inb4 I'll commit vehicular assault against you.
No, you won't. Not if you value your anus.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 15:21:42 No.577664
>>577658
>So, it's worse. There's literally no chance of it clearing itself up, like a slower driver or a cyclist.
Exactly. I mean, I hate that we then have to take detours or some shit, but it's unavoidable. It can't be helped. A cyclist or a slow driver - especially a cyclist, with that added range of movement and smaller form - are people who are being inconsiderate of others if they continue taking up space on a busy road and letting no one pass. That was the other thing with the biker guy - he easily could've let someone pass him, or get on the side of him, but he wasn't doing so.

>The sidewalk is dangerous to cycle on for pedestrians first and foremost, but it's also dangerous for cyclists as well.
It was early morning and no one was around, but I get the point.

>To keep my safe, to keep them safe, I'd have to go as slow as a ped and at that point I might as well walk.
Fair enough, but then, the guy could've pulled over for a second and let the cars pass and continued safely on the road.

>Nothing is stopping me from taking backroads, generally, however, nothing is stopping you either.
The back roads around here don't lead to the highway, so that does stop me from taking them to get to work.

>I don't know if you live more out west, where town and roads are more of a grid
Nah, east coast and everything is pretty flat around here.

>Write your Congressmen.
But it's not really a continuing problem. He was smack dab in the middle of traffic and seemingly oblivious to the mass of cars around him trying to turn, or get around him, or even go forward.

>Why?
I hate selfishness and I hate inconsiderate people. This guy was being inconsiderate to literally everyone in the road at the time. Even if I left an hour early for work I still would've been pissed at the guy because he didn't seem to care that he was in everyone's way, and didn't do a thing about it.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 15:25:47 No.577667
>>577663
>It's fine for cyclists to be selfish on busy roads because the law states that they are allowed to do so.
>I can be elitist because the law say shit and I'm a hardcore bike man, bitch!
Uh huh

>I don't give a fuck about you or your car. If I feel that it's safer to take up the entire lane, guess what, I'm taking the entire lane. And there's nothing you can do about it.

And that's the selfishness I can't understand. You're not a special snowflake because you're on a bike. If we were in a supermarket and everyone around had carts full of food, waiting patiently in line, would you think it's fine to cut everyone in line because all you have is a few items - even if you didn't ask the people you were cutting if it's okay? It comes down to common human decency.

>No, you won't. Not if you value your anus.
Course I won't. It never crossed my mind to hit the guy, or anyone who'd do the same.

I can't understand selfishness and inconsideration. In the middle of rush hour traffic, why would you not just take 5 minutes to let the cars go, or even just move over for a second and allow someone to get around you? Is that so hard?

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 15:29:29 No.577671

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>>577664
A cyclist or a slow driver - especially a cyclist, with that added range of movement and smaller form - are people who are being inconsiderate of others if they continue taking up space on a busy road and letting no one pass.
First of all, how the fuck is it MORE inconsiderate to be a slow cyclist over a slow driver? It takes literally no effort to go faster in a car and it's much hard to squeeze around, if you're the type of shithead who'd try that thing.

>That was the other thing with the biker guy - he easily could've let someone pass him, or get on the side of him, but he wasn't doing so.
Probably because it wasn't safe to do so. If he could have turned off or something, why couldn't you have?

>It was early morning and no one was around, but I get the point.
All sidewalks are different, I'll grant you that. But, most either have people on them, or driveways, or breaks in the block.
There's only one around here that's not like that, and sometimes I will actually take it because it's such a steep hill, but even then, I'll generally just take an alternate route.

>Fair enough, but then, the guy could've pulled over for a second and let the cars pass and continued safely on the road.
Or you could have dealt with it or turned off.

>The back roads around here don't lead to the highway, so that does stop me from taking them to get to work.
So you getting to where you need to go is more important than where he is?

>Nah, east coast and everything is pretty flat around here.
It's not a flat thing, it's a parallel roads thing.

>I hate selfishness and I hate inconsiderate people.
But without knowing anything about him, you've determined that your mode of transportation and your destination is more important than his.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 15:30:59 No.577673
>>577667
>And that's the selfishness I can't understand. You're not a special snowflake because you're on a bike. If we were in a supermarket and everyone around had carts full of food, waiting patiently in line, would you think it's fine to cut everyone in line because all you have is a few items - even if you didn't ask the people you were cutting if it's okay? It comes down to common human decency.

Actually I am a special snowflake because I'm on a bike. It's easier for me to get killed, so I have to be more aggressive to ensure my safety. Driving a car does not grant you special privileges.

Now I'm not the guy you were arguing with earlier, and I don't hold up traffic if it's at all avoidable. But where I ride there are a lot of roads that have no shoulder or bike lane, and you bet your ass I'm not showing anybody quarter because they might think I'm inconveniencing them.

So basically, I'd let you go around if it was safe for me to do so, but if it's not safe for me to do so, you're going to have to wait behind me. Simple as that.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 15:36:54 No.577676
>>577671
>It takes literally no effort to go faster in a car and it's much hard to squeeze around, if you're the type of shithead who'd try that thing.
Cars are large. Cars are metal. Cars are bulky and not nimble. A cyclist on a bike is all of these things, and there's enough room to ride on the side of the road for a second for a car to get through. You can't do that with a car when there's traffic.

>Probably because it wasn't safe to do so. If he could have turned off or something, why couldn't you have?

Because I had to get onto the highway, and he didn't. There are enough roads around here connecting to others that as long as he wasn't getting onto the highway it would've been simple to take a side road, cut out all the traffic, and get back on where it was less busy.

>Or you could have dealt with it or turned off.
I dealt with it, but I don't have to be happy about a cunt. As for turning my car off, what of all of the other cars on the road I'd be blocking?

>So you getting to where you need to go is more important than where he is?
Most of the people on the road at that moment (again, I was bothered for everyone on the road stuck behind this guy, and I wasn't the only one) were getting off onto the highway. He wasn't.

>It's not a flat thing, it's a parallel roads thing.
Everything connects around here. I've walked it enough to know that.

>But without knowing anything about him, you've determined that your mode of transportation and your destination is more important than his.
It's not just about me - it was about everyone else on the road he was also blocking, all the people trying to make a turn, or get to where they have to go.

>>577673
>Actually I am a special snowflake because I'm on a bike.
Elitism at its finest

>It's easier for me to get killed, so I have to be more aggressive to ensure my safety
Definitely. Not like cars go faster than you ever can. It's not like cars don't crash all the time at high speeds.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 15:43:10 No.577679

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>>577676
>A cyclist on a bike is all of these things, and there's enough room to ride on the side of the road for a second for a car to get through. You can't do that with a car when there's traffic.
Enough room for another car is not enough room to be safe. In addition to passing dangers, there's also shit on the side of the road, the buffer room you need if some jackass swerves into you, doorzones, it's not just 'room'.

>Because I had to get onto the highway, and he didn't.
You NEEDED to?

>There are enough roads around here connecting to others that as long as he wasn't getting onto the highway it would've been simple to take a side road, cut out all the traffic, and get back on where it was less busy.
And you didn't do this and just connect back to the highway?

>As for turning my car off, what of all of the other cars on the road I'd be blocking?
Turn off the road, you screaming retard.

>Everything connects around here. I've walked it enough to know that.
Again, so didn't you get off and back on at some point? You were obviously behind this guy for a bit.

>It's not just about me - it was about everyone else on the road he was also blocking, all the people trying to make a turn, or get to where they have to go.
He also needs to go somewhere, anon.

>>577673
>Elitism at its finest
He wasn't the one who brought up the term, he's just going with it.
A cyclist taking the lane when that's the only way to be safe is no different from a motorist.
This kind of shit really pisses me off; when a car wants to make a left, he sits there and people either try and go around safely or just wait behind them. A cyclist does the same and people lose their fucking shit.

>Definitely. Not like cars go faster than you ever can. It's not like cars don't crash all the time at high speeds.
Are you going to fucking argue car v. human?

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 15:57:05 No.577683
>FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM
Yeah, legit. The only thing worthwhile was seeing how doofy & indifferent the cop was lol. An attention whore so desperate he purposefully rams shit with his cruiser? Who cares. Cruiser seems pretty tough though.

The late-for-work guy has a point about being considerate. Drivers expect everyone to travel at about the same speed, especially at peak times. More road users at much lower speeds (horse-drawn buggies, tractors, small scooters, cyclists) and they wouldn't expect it.

Now get out there and ride slow! I know you can do it /n/.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 16:49:26 No.577690
Haha, this is my co-workers buddy.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 17:03:53 No.577695
>>577639
>He wasn't on the yellow lines or something, he was literally acting like a car.

That's what taking the lane means.

>And there was enough room on the side for him to totally slip through, but not enough for a car.

"Enough room to slip through" and "enough room to be safely passed without incident" are not at all the same thing. The road was, by your own admission, very narrow. The cyclist was protecting his fucking life by not allowing drivers to try to "slip by" just barely and hit him with a wing mirror or for that driver to try slipping by and ending up hitting an oncoming car because they misjudged the space.

It's not that the cyclist has a right to "be selfish on busy roads." He has a right to make sure he is safe on NARROW roads. If the road were wider and there was enough space for you to share the lane with a bike and still leave 3 feet of space, allowing you to pass safely, THEN you would have a valid complaint about selfishness.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 17:13:06 No.577702
>>577639
>he was being really goddamn selfish
>THE ROAD BELONGS TO ME HOW DARE YOU USE IT
Irony much, brah?

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 17:33:47 No.577706
>>577702
cager thinking at it's best

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 17:45:59 No.577717
>>577683
I understand, but it's much the same argument as 'Well, motorists just DON'T LOOK for cyclists!' Well, start fucking looking.
Bicycles aren't some mythical beast we've yet to see in the wild, they're fucking bicycles. You know they exist, hopefully you know they have a right to the road, and that they could potentially be out there.

Most people have a spare tire, or a jack or some shit in their car at all times, maybe even a snowscraper in June, yet I'm willing to bet they see more cyclists than they do summer snowstorms or flat blowouts.

Being an adult on the roads means preparing for all aspects of the road; one of which cyclists happen to be.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 17:50:48 No.577721
>>577667
Why would you not just take 5 minutes to pass the cyclist safely?

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 17:54:14 No.577722
>>577721
Because a cyclist's safety is not as important as his convenience

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 17:54:21 No.577723
>>577721
Probably because it wasn't safe to pass the cyclist.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 18:16:28 No.577726
>>577437
>What the fuck
Dude, life is cruel. There are some rules in this world.
Bicyclists have to ride in the bike lane (or on the edge of the road), pedestrians have to walk on the sidewalk. That's all.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 18:23:10 No.577731
>>577726
Except those aren't the rules. Stop perpetuating bullshit and look it up.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 18:23:42 No.577732
>>577726
>Bicyclists have to ride in the bike lane (or on the edge of the road), pedestrians have to walk on the sidewalk. That's all.
No, they don't and often times shouldn't or can't.

This 'bikes belong in the bike lane and nowhere else' attitude gets hammered into motorists as a side effect of lanes. But what if there's an obstruction in the lane? Or there is no lane, or no lane to where you want to travel? Some cager's going to pitch a fit, which would be totally fine if they didn't feel anonymous/disconnected while in control of a metal death tank.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 18:56:09 No.577755
>>577629
>>577639
>>577653
>>577667

>Fair enough, but it's supposed to be for "car" traffic.
no, no it's fucking not, that's exactly the goddamn point.

>You're not a special snowflake because you're on a bike.
implying special snowflake bullshit couldn't be said about you and your entitlement and lack of patience

are you that fucking faggot from columbus that was complaining about people on high street using the bike lane? holy shit you managed to make me hate you even more by being such a self-obsessed piece of shit

(for general reference, the high street bike lane is shared with parked cars, so you get roughly a foot between the cars and the next lane over. it's extremely unsafe and often cars are too far from the curb to ride in it anyway)

>>577726
people who think this are simply ignorant by definition, so i hope some stupid fuck like you doesn't kill me when i'm out on my bike

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 21:18:51 No.577850
>>577755
>no, no it's fucking not, that's exactly the goddamn point

in traffic engineering, roads are designed for passenger car traffic. Trucks, buses, bicycles, etc., are actually obstructions to ideal traffic flow.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 21:20:47 No.577851
>>577755
i understand bicycles need to use the road for transportation, but considering traffic engineering bicycle traffic is considered an obstruction

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 21:22:33 No.577852
>>577732
>This 'bikes belong in the bike lane and nowhere else' attitude gets hammered into motorists as a side effect of lanes.
That's life, bro.
>Or there is no lane, or no lane to where you want to travel?
There WAS a lane so I don't think we should speak about that.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 21:23:37 No.577853
>>577852
Also, if someone makes a video riding himself into obstacles, he's a total idiot, not a hero.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 21:48:22 No.577862
>>577850
>>577851
And what do you think is the problem here? That bikes exist and the best place for them to be is in the road unless you live in Dutchland?

Or that Traffick Enguneeryng (tm) is too retarded to consider bikes?

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 21:55:51 No.577867
>>577726

Pedestrians are legally allowed to walk on a public road if there is no sidewalk.

Bicycles are legally allowed to exit bike lanes or move to the center of a lane under several clearly defined circumstances.

If you're not going to read the law, don't comment on it.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 21:59:26 No.577868
>>577853

It was a funny and concise way to get across the point that if bicycles were truly confined to bike lanes it would be awful and raise awareness for drivers to watch out for cyclists who may need to exit the bike lane quickly to avoid an obstacle.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 23:11:25 No.577901
>>577706

>cager
>thinking

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 23:39:33 No.577917
>>577639
Wouldn't the fact he's moving so slow with a posted speed limit be an issue?

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 23:39:48 No.577919
>>577447
I drive my car 95% of the time, only bike 5%, and I agree 100% with this anon. Running a red light in a car or on a bike is absolutely stupid, you're creating a dangerous situation for everyone, and it is 100% against the law.
Not riding in bike lanes seems dumb, Yes they're great, when they're there, but most of the time I know they're blocked, or simply not where you need to go. As long as you use common sense I think you should be able to bike where-ever you feel safe, so long as you're not a hazard to pedestrians, other cyclists or motorists

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 23:54:11 No.577931
>>577868
it also points out the fallacy in ticketing cyclists who leave the bike lane, but not motorists who double park in the bike lane.

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Anonymous 2013-10-17 23:57:36 No.577935
>>577657
fuck that guy, cyclists like that are the reason people in cars hate us. he can autism all he wants about bike culture. but at the end of the day its the cars that rule the road not us, no matter which way we try to spin the laws.

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 00:09:21 No.577939
>>577917
Please respond, I'm curious.

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 00:11:47 No.577941
>>577917
It's a limit, not a minimum.

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 00:18:06 No.577944
>>577941
But cars can get fined for going under too much, my friend did when he went 20 under 40.

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 00:18:50 No.577945
>>577935

Cagefags would hate cyclists no matter what, as they hate everyone else on the road including other cagefags. So enjoy being mad all the time while getting fat and having a heart attack while you poison the air.

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 00:20:26 No.577947
>>577944

There is no law for that. That's just something some jackboot dreamed up and can be challenged in court.

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 00:32:42 No.577950
>>577947

Cagetards are entirely ignorant of the law and make shit up to suit their entitled worldview, such as it's OK to go 10mph over the speed limit and honk and tailgate any law-abiding motorist.

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 00:58:43 No.577973
>>577947
>There is no law for that. That's just something some jackboot dreamed up and can be challenged in court.

This. I'm sure the officer could try to argue it as being dangerous or ironically reckless in some way, but he'd have to make a good case for it because there is no direct law about speed minimums on non-freeway/interstate roads.

On freeways and interstates there are actual speed minimums, though, and they are spelled out with specific numbers in the traffic code, not as a relative percentage of the speed limit ("50mph minimum" vs "no less than 20mph under the limit").

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 00:59:18 No.577974
>>577973
>>577947
Damn, I didn't realize.
My friend payed ~$180 for fucking nothing then.

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 01:27:56 No.578000
>>577917

>speed entitlement

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 01:46:32 No.578014
>>578000
What.
Nice trips tho.

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 01:57:36 No.578023
>>578014

Car drivers feel they are entitled to go as fast as is reasonably possible, and that makes them treat speed limits as minimums.

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 02:44:17 No.578071
>>577852
>That's life, bro.
And so are cyclists on the road, fucko.

>There WAS a lane so I don't think we should speak about that.
Yes, we do, because it's still often unsafe to use a bikelane like that.

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 02:58:54 No.578083
(a) Upon all roadways, any bicycle
or in-line skate shall be driven either on a usable bicycle or in-line
skate lane or, if a usable bicycle or in-line skate lane has not been
provided, near the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway or upon a
usable right-hand shoulder.
The cop was correct to administer the ticket, if there is a bike lane you need to ride in it.

§ 1231. Traffic laws apply to persons riding bicycles or skating or
gliding on in-line skates. Every person riding a bicycle or skating or
gliding on in-line skates upon a roadway shall be granted all of the
rights and shall be subject to all of the duties applicable to the
driver of a vehicle by this title, except as to special regulations in
this article and except as to those provisions of this title which by
their nature can have no application.

The cop was similarly correct to ticket him as cyclists are subject to the traffic laws applied to cars, therefore running a red light is illegal for cyclists.

Source: http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/LAWSSEAF.cgi?QUERYTYPE=LAWS+&QUERYDATA=@SLVAT0T7A34+&LIST=LAW+&BROWSER=BROWSER+&TOKEN=44945823+&TARGET=VIEW
See Section 1231 and 1234 for the full writings of the above two snippets.
Source: http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/LAWSSEAF.cgi?QUERYTYPE=LAWS+&QUERYDATA=$$VAT1231$$@TXVAT01231+&LIST=LAW+&BROWSER=BROWSER+&TOKEN=44945823+&TARGET=VIEW

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 03:11:12 No.578092
>>578083
>The cop was correct to administer the ticket, if there is a bike lane you need to ride in it.
No, you don't. It's not usable if it's obstructed or dangerous in some way, as many bike lanes are.

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 03:18:45 No.578100
>>578083
If the cyclist should be fined for being OUTside if the bike lane then does that mean that motorist should be fined when they are INside the bike lane?

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 03:19:57 No.578102
>>578083

Nice job leaving out the most important part:

>except when
>preparing for a left turn
>or when reasonably necessary to avoid conditions that would make it unsafe to continue along near the right-hand curb or edge.

>Conditions to be taken into consideration include,
>but are not limited to,
>fixed or moving objects, vehicles, bicycles, in-line skates, pedestrians, animals, surface hazards
>or traffic lanes too narrow for a bicycle or person on in-line skates and a vehicle to travel safely side-by-side within the lane.

I broke it up in the way I did for emphasis. There are many exceptions to the rule; in fact, the list even says "not limited to," meaning if you have a good reason you can make a judgment call on when to use or not use a bike lane. Leaving the bike lane at an intersection to follow behind cars and avoid being right hooked is a good example. Or exiting the bike lane ahead of time when you know it will end after the next street corner so you can merge into traffic more safely.

I sincerely doubt he was riding outside a bicycle lane just for the fuck of it. In the video he even notes cars on the road just ahead of himself and the cop which are illegally parked in the bike lane and obstructing the path.

Why does everyone ignore the fact that some laws have lists of exceptions? This is especially true of traffic laws because of how much conditions can change moment to moment and the laws must take that into account, otherwise we might have people getting ticketed just because they safely exited a bike lane to avoid hurting or killing themselves on some kind of obstruction or hazard. Oh, wait..

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 03:25:18 No.578104
>>578083
see
>>577447

Bike lanes are almost always unsafe. Even if unobstructed and reasonably well designed they usually place you in a part of the road where your visibility to motorists is decreased, thus putting you at a much greater risk for being the victim of a collision with a motorist who doesn't see you (right hook, door-prize, etc). This effect is compounded by the fact that it encourages motorists to take an "out of sight, out of mind" attitude towards cyclists. All of the above applies equally to bicycling on the shoulder.

Perfect example from my commute home today:
>Be biking along, riding in bike lane (far right side of the road) against my better judgement.
>Fat fuck in SUV decides they want to pull into a parking lot on the right.
>Cuts me off without signaling or checking right blind spot, drives right across bike lane 15 feet in front of me.
>Barley able to swerve around and avoid ~20 mph collision.

Moral of the story: Bike lanes/riding on the shoulder are/is dangerous. If there had been a car overtaking to my left it would have creamed me.

For anybody who commutes by bicycle in a dense high traffic urban area, this is a regular occurrence if you ride in the bike lane or on the shoulder most of the time.

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 03:26:34 No.578105

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>>577717
I unintentionally made the Critical Mass argument. I have shamed the family.

>hopefully you know
>Being an adult
This does not happen.

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 04:06:47 No.578142
>>577602
Sure, it's his fault, doesn't change the fact the cop is a faggot

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 04:08:53 No.578145
>>577442
>>577447
>>577452
>>577632
So if you're riding your bike and there's a red light, and you stop, and there's literally no traffic in sight, you still wait for it to change?

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 04:16:52 No.578149
>>577660
I don't like it when drivers get tickets for stupid reasons either. If they want more money then raise the fines for legitimate crimes like DUI.

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 04:25:06 No.578154

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>>577973
Percentage is dividend, not difference, faggot.

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 04:33:36 No.578163
I cycle around my city and to school because it is really expensive to park on campus. I am courteous to other road users as I realize that I am a slow motherfucker and I can't always keep up with cars on every road. On a two lane road I will let cars pass by ducking into parking spaces for a few seconds. The one thing I will not do is allow a car to cut ahead of me at a stop sign or red light. There are a lot of stop signs that I pass through on the way to class. Almost every day I will wait at a stop sign to cross a busy 3 lane road and be passed up by cars trying to do the same thing I am trying to do. I usually stand slightly to the right so I don't get taken out by a car but they take this as that they can go around me and take my turn. I recently was bumped by someone turning right while I was going straight because the driver did not signal and just went without any indication.

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Anonymous 2013-10-18 04:56:41 No.578184

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>>577852







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