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Anonymous 2016-07-09 02:40:13 No.978055

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Give me one reason why someone should not to break side mirrors and key cars which park in the bike lane if they can get away with it.


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Anonymous 2016-07-09 02:50:09 No.978057
Because it won't do anything beyond give you some petty revenge in the moment, while fanning the flames for future cager encounters.

They deserve it, honestly, but it's probably better to take some pics and go to the police with them.

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 02:53:06 No.978058
>>978055
Because that kind of action is likely to make the offender so angry that they won't be able to absorb the lesson you're trying to teach.

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 02:54:26 No.978060
>>978057
sounds good to me

>>978058
>implying you can reason with them

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 03:00:22 No.978063
>>978055

I do it, eventually when they lose enough money pulling that crap they'll stop. Don't listen to cagescum urging restraint

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 03:08:02 No.978067
>>978063
I was pedaling in the bike lane and a taxi just stopped right in front of me. It was night, she could just stop in the car lane without any problem. I tapped her mirror and was honked at. It really makes me want to break cages.

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 03:14:20 No.978069
>>978067

>woman driver

there's yer problem, women shouldn't be allowed to drive

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 03:23:19 No.978072
>>978055
Oh for fuck's sake kid GROW UP ALREADY.
>Anything I don't like is a PERSONAL AFFRONT and I must 'even the score' or my manchild 'honor' will be besmirched!
You're rediculous if you do shit like that and if you get caught and get the shit beat out of you, you deserve it.

Now fuck off, guttersnipe.

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 03:24:31 No.978073
>>978072
It's not about 'not liking' something, it's about selfish drivers creating dangerous situations for cyclists without knowing or caring about it.

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 03:25:37 No.978074
>>978073

He cant spell, he's fat as fuck, leave him alone he has enough problems as it is

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 03:30:49 No.978075
Avid cyclist and i work at a lbs

Damaging property does not justify what you are intending to do. You are only making "cagers" have less respect for us cyclists. I assume you follow the law precisely when you ride? Doubt it. Find another way to approach the problem.

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BaconRider 2016-07-09 04:01:48 No.978080
>>978055
itswrong!,, nothe Cars fault., and now you have blind Cagers!,, glass, no.
,,,,,,,,,
,,what you REALY dont wantodois,, save up used sanitary pads,, tie on stick with lead weight.
,,,Dont useito SMASH Windsheild,, that would be bad,, Sniker,, very bad., think of the trouble the Cager will have,, BLOODY carepair? be kind.

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 04:13:36 No.978083
>>978080
I dunno, bacon, I think I'd get in more trouble for smearing cuntblood around than smashing the mirror.
Seems like it'd be considered a bio hazard or something.

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BaconRider 2016-07-09 04:44:27 No.978089
>>978083
OK,, youright.
,,, im stillittle shakey from>,, 200 yards out from stopsign.,25mph (average)in 25 zone,, "Bikelanes", have cars parked 150 yards ahead on BOTH sides, and its already too narrow.,,cars approching from stopsign,, i pass California plates pulling in behind me and wave,, HI!!,,,, no waveback?, ahh newbys.
,, CAger Jumps on the gaseeing me up ahead?! "HOW DARE THAT BIKE!! ill show YOU!:",
,ohh Doge,, i can JUMP in the gutter,, OR, Take my LANE and enforce the issue,,,,or,,, Execute option 66!, YA! CAGE!! LETSGO!
,, Overide ALL Saftys on Engine and Bring Reactors to 106%
,Ditched the CAGE!,, he got leary after 37 going headon to an approching truck.
,,, normaly imall about safty,, i Blame "ANVIL", spray meagain!

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 05:41:19 No.978097
>>978055
Your waifu will be ashamed of you when she finds out and afraid that all the hatred in your heart will make you forget to treat her gently.

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 12:39:15 No.978190
>>978055
Because you might get caught on a camera somewhere

Literally the only reason not to

Cops will subpoena any security camera footage to help cagers but if there is an intentional hit and run killing a cyclist they just say "oh the cyclist probably was being unsafe, hopefully the driver will come forward" and then close the case

If you have any chance to knock off mirrors or otherwise damage a cage without getting caught it's your duty to do so, but don't take any risks

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 22:10:23 No.978366
>>978055
Why not just take the whole lane to slowly ride past the double parker making it all problem for you and all the cars behind you that now have to slow done for the jack ass parked in the lane?

Don't be a bitch breaking the car. Take the high road. It is a city, assholes double park all over, deal with it.

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 22:36:58 No.978379
>>978366
Double parking does not take put cars at safety risk in the same way it does bikes.
'Deal with it' isn't appropriate.

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 22:50:11 No.978386
>>978379

Pretty true, the only way to get these douchelords to stop is if it becomes too expensive for them to continue doing it. Replacing a sideview mirror costs between 60 and 200 for most cars.

They'll huff and puff, but ultimately stop after they've sunk a couple hundred into repairing their stupid death cages.

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 23:08:31 No.978393
>>978386
Well you better stop and explain to them why you busted off their mirror. Because to most drivers parked in the lane have no idea that it is wrong or a big deal. So they are just going to think all cyclists are pieces of garbage who break their cars for no reason. When they run you over after you smash their car it won't matter if you were morally right anyway.

If you can't manage obstacles while riding in the city then you should get better at defensive riding, reading traffic and being a better and more courteous cyclist.

Stay safe out there.

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 23:10:36 No.978396
>>978190
to be fair to some city's cops, Atlanta had an intentional hit and run case of a car running over a bike rider that was investigated using residential security cameras to see the vehicle. The vehicle was found some days or weeks later and the driver was tracked down and arrested

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 23:12:27 No.978397
>>978393

Nope, they'll pick on a pretty simple pattern: park in this lane, get yer shit broken. Even the stupidest cager will realize after a couple hundo spent.

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Anonymous 2016-07-09 23:12:58 No.978398
>>978055
I only started coming on /n/ to learn about bikes because I wanted a cheap one. I've stuck round now because I thought it was a chill board like /tg/. I guess it isn't. But to answer your question, yes break the mirror. Break the mirror of every car you see. When they report it to the cops they will get ticketed for parking in the bike lane. When you get caught you will learn not to be an immature little shit. It's a win win scenario.

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BaconRider 2016-07-10 00:02:44 No.978418
>>978398
>coming on /n/ to learn about bikes because wanted a cheap one
Dontyou,, havea windsheild toclean?,,, FILTHY CAGER!!,,, o doge. Sorry Anon,,where did that come from?, im just frazed,,,"ANVIL" tothead!
,,,anyways,,, WELCOME to/n/!,,, weluvyou.

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hank trill 2016-07-10 00:58:49 No.978436
Because if you actually knew how to bike in traffic then that wouldn't bother you

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 01:07:50 No.978440
>>978055
Such entitlement...

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 01:08:48 No.978441
>>978440

>bicyclist feels entitled to bike lane

Stay retarded cager

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 02:08:23 No.978474
>>978436
This roller knows what they are talking about.

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 02:28:18 No.978487
>>978055
>Give me one reason why someone should not to break side mirrors and key cars which park in the bike lane if they can get away with it.

Hey, angst retard, do you even live in the city?

I do, with a wife and kids. Sometimes, you need to load things into the car and there are no spots, and there won't BE spots. Because you live there and you know.

So you park in the bike lane and bring the babies out in their car seats or unload groceries or WHATEVER.

You want to live in a city like NYC or similar accept the chaos that comes with it. If you can't handle going into the car lane for 10 seconds, you should not be riding you bike in the city

Here is traffic in Dehli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5g12Gpvhb8

Stop being a pussy

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 02:31:13 No.978488
I don't endorse it but I do it anyway. It's just so frustrating.

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 02:34:18 No.978490
>>978487
>stopped at the top of a big climb in the outskirts of the city
>resting for a second having a drink in a carpark on the side of the road
>guy driving comes up behind me and lays into the horn
>look behind
>he lays into the horn again and shoos me with his hand
>roll forward 10 metres into the next carpark (there's 6 and they're all empty)
>he gets out
>"Can't you see I have my daughter with me?"

>muh cheeldren
Not an excuse for anything. You're just teaching them your shitty behaviour. It's worse.

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 03:55:12 No.978543
>>978487
You could also say don't have children of you want to live in an area that isn't friendly to families. This is why suburbs exist.
In a world where some motorists actively try and fuck with cyclists, too many, this is doubly unacceptable behavior.
Putting people in danger.

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Schwalbe professional bike tires 2016-07-10 04:00:57 No.978544
>>978055
Broken mirror glass on the side of the road which could puncture tires less well build than Schwalbe professional bike tires?

Seriously tho it leaves a mess,and no-ones there to clean it up.

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 04:19:07 No.978547
>>978487
I'm bashing your baby's head in next time

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 04:44:34 No.978553
>>978072
>grow up
>rediculous

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 04:48:54 No.978556
>>978366
>do this
>cars start honking at me for taking the lane.
>>978055
The only reason I don't smash the cars is because there are other cagers always driving past that will see me. How do you get away with it?

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 11:54:19 No.978645
>>978487
you have to stop in the car lane then retard. Oh sorry, you are a pussy to fuck with other cagers. I mean, obstructing the car traffic, who would do that?
Cyclist would like to go home to their families too, retard.

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 12:28:10 No.978649
>>978645
But cyclists don't pay road tax.

Honestly you sound like one of those people who has the nerve to complain about our stroller and use four letter words within earshot of our precious little angel when we go out to the gastropub for dinner and some drinks.

You know people are entitled to having lives even after having kids? Otherwise the human race cannot continue.

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 12:49:52 No.978652
>>978649
>having kids
>going on 4chan
what's it like being a failure?

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 18:16:46 No.978736
>>978649
>But cyclists don't pay road tax.
This is the United States, neither do you.

>You know people are entitled to having lives even after having kids? Otherwise the human race cannot continue.
Hello! See >>978645
If you really need this, and what you really say is true, and you really must have kids, and you really must stay in the city, go ahead and stop in the 'car' lane. If you're not comfortable doing that, there is no reason in the world it would be acceptable to do in the bike lane, especially when they're so vulnerable, especially when there is such active malice toward cyclists, and especially when they barely have lanes to begin with, let alone what state of functionality they might be in.

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 20:34:11 No.978788
>>978055
Reason not to: You are a chill dude who doesn't let minor inconveniences get to you. You have a bit of empathy for fellow humans and hell, slowing down about 5 seconds to go around some car is no big deal anyway.

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 21:56:02 No.978827
>>978788
>empathy for fellow humans and hell
Unlike those who park in the bike lane?
Unlike those who shout GET OUTTA THE ROAD regardless of whether or not there's actually a bike lane, and regardless of whether or not some fellow dicklicker has parked there?
Unlike those who refuse to look for and pay attention to cyclists and give them their due space on the road, even though cycles have been on the road literally before cars were even invented?

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 22:39:18 No.978836
>>978487
Why is it my fault that you need to take your shitty children out of your car?
You live in the city you should know that nobody gives a fuck about the fact you need to take your stupid kids out at that time

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 23:14:50 No.978840
>>978057
>go to the police

Right, because when does that ever make anything better?

This isn't just edgy anarchist FTP shit. In most cities, at least in the US, the cops not only don't enforce a lot of cyclist-safety-relevant traffic law, they're usually some of the biggest offenders themselves.

In New York, there was even a case where a precinct took it upon themselves not only to store cars in the bike lane in front (which is standard) but to *paint over the bike and lane and turn it into marked parking spaces* without authorization from the DOT. That lasted about a week, but they still park there.

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Anonymous 2016-07-10 23:18:11 No.978841
>>978840
Anyway, if there was an organized, public campaign to key cars, escalating to breaking windows if cagers didn't get the picture after a couple weeks, this would absolutely make sense and solve the problem pretty fast.

As it stands, it's just going to piss people off.

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Anonymous 2016-07-11 01:07:36 No.978872
I was considering printing out some flyers that read something along the lines of "Please do not park in the bike lane" and just putting them in the wipers of cars I see parked in the bike lane

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Anonymous 2016-07-11 02:09:31 No.978895
>>978872
Sounds good!
They'll probably think 'Fuck this faggot' but maybe not.

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Anonymous 2016-07-11 02:11:02 No.978897
>>978840
This. NYC cops are the biggest shitheads on the planet.

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Anonymous 2016-07-11 02:17:38 No.978901
how bout you put that tard rage to work and crank out some climbs instead

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Anonymous 2016-07-11 02:17:41 No.978902
>>978897
I love how your cop cars makes this BWOOOOOOOOOOOOP noise instead of your standard cop car sound.
When I visited there, I thought fucking aliens were attacking or some shit.

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Anonymous 2016-07-11 02:58:19 No.978910
>>978836
>Damaging property does not justify what you are intending to do. You are only making "cagers" have less respect for us cyclists. I assume you follow the law precisely when you ride? Doubt it. Find another way to approach the problem.
>>978645
>>978547
>>978543
>>978490

Holy fuck I love how even the mention of having children throws the betamales here into a rage

Yes, some cyclists have wives, children, happy lives, and can afford a row-home in a major city. We are not all hippie bike punk retards who think we need to "sacrifice ourselves" (fail at life) to prevent overpopulation

Anyways, keep crying kiddies. My kids' bikes are probably better than yours, not to mention my own. And I ride harder. AND I have a couple of nice cars. Boo hoo. Go drink a piss beer at a basement punk show and see if some angry feminist will let you disappoint her with your pencil dicks

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Anonymous 2016-07-11 03:02:22 No.978912
>>978910

>muh status

Pathetic.

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Anonymous 2016-07-11 03:11:14 No.978917
>>978910
It's not the mention, it's the constant use of them to excuse shitty behavior.

>Yes, some cyclists have wives, children, happy lives, and can afford a row-home in a major city.
None of this means that you have to park in the bike lane.
If you thought you'd spend a lot of time loading and unloading shit into your car, you ought to have found an apartment with decent parking. I cannot take up residence somewhere on the first floor, because I didn't make sure my fifth floor apartment wasn't a walk up.

>We are not all hippie bike punk retards who think we need to "sacrifice ourselves" (fail at life) to prevent overpopulation
Neither are we, we're just asking you to use the roads as intended.

>Anyways, keep crying kiddies. My kids' bikes are probably better than yours, not to mention my own. And I ride harder. AND I have a couple of nice cars. Boo hoo. Go drink a piss beer at a basement punk show and see if some angry feminist will let you disappoint her with your pencil dicks
Wew, lad calm down.

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Anonymous 2016-07-11 03:13:15 No.978918
>>978910

Why do you think people wihout children are poor? Not all people like children you know? Stop being so assblasted just because you don't have all the time and money for yourself like others do.

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Anonymous 2016-07-11 03:34:01 No.978927
In my country the bike lanes say no parking during a specific time. This time is always extremely short, a couple of hours a day. Should we break their mirrors off even when they are legally parked there? As a neet I don't even ride during the two hours that they must not park there. I want to claim the lanes for bicycles 24/7.

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Anonymous 2016-07-11 04:08:10 No.978932
>>978927
You should do it as an act of protest

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 00:10:36 No.980808
>>978827
Yes.
>They act like manbabies so I should be able to also.

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 00:40:53 No.980827
>>980808
It's not acting like a man baby. At best, it's anger at a ignorance of putting me in danger. At worst, they know exactly what they're doing and they don't care.

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 02:20:05 No.980869
>>980827
That guy broke the law cause he is an asshole - well then I am going to break the law and be an asshole too cause that asshole is also breaking the law.

A car parked in the bike lane isn't a threat to your life unless they pull in suddenly and cause you to crash.

Just slow down, wait a second and go around like 99% of everyone.

If you can't handle this type of stuff maybe you are not confident and skilled enough to handle riding in traffic.

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 02:21:30 No.980870
>>980869
>A car parked in the bike lane isn't a threat to your life unless they pull in suddenly and cause you to crash.
And it's not a threat to someone in the cage lane either. So maybe the cage should park the cage lane. Wow that was complicated! I need a drink, I cage better when I'm drunk lol.

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 04:37:39 No.980917
>take my two bikes and lay them flat on the road
>cagers run them over

I just wish they'd grow up and learn to share the road like adults...

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 08:37:47 No.980994
>>978649
>and use four letter words within earshot of our precious little angel

sometimes i just want the apocalypse to arrive already

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 09:19:48 No.981005
>>980869
Shut the fuck up faggot. I don't go riding to look over my shoulder every five seconds and navigate cager obstacles.

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 20:34:15 No.981214
>>980869
>That guy broke the law cause he is an asshole - well then I am going to break the law and be an asshole too cause that asshole is also breaking the law.
Didn't advocate breaking the law, a lot of us here aren't. I just take offense to our anger as 'baby' behavior.

>A car parked in the bike lane isn't a threat to your life unless they pull in suddenly and cause you to crash.
It is. There's a great number of drivers who don't like seeing bikes in the street, and it sends them into maximum autism when they see a bike lane there. They think you're supposed to be only there.
It wouldn't matter if I mad someone mad, especially when they're dumb and wrong, but you give them the anonymity of a car, which also gives them the ability to kill me and get away, yeah, it becomes a problem for me. I've had people try and hit me with their, or at the very least, try and scare me with it.

>Just slow down, wait a second and go around like 99% of everyone.
If one of these autismos happens to be out on the road at that time, I can all but guarantee you that they will no wait, they'll pass both me and the car I'm passing at an unsafe distance.
This happens quite often when I'm making a left onto my home street, and instead of waiting behind me as they would another car, no problem, they buzz very close and lay on their horns. (And we don't even have bikes lanes around here.)

>If you can't handle this type of stuff maybe you are not confident and skilled enough to handle riding in traff
You know what? No. I see this argument quite a bit here.
People who almost back into me in parking lots, while I'm driving, can go fuck themselves just as hard. I've never been hit this way, because I'm a good driver, and a good observer. But that doesn't change the fact that those people are clueless cunts or don't give a single fuck about the safety of anyone else but themselves.

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BaconRider 2016-07-20 23:50:31 No.983526
Beer,,, stacked, by the door,,, shaped like a Tank!
,,, cartoon pilot,, guzzling ,, driveing,,,,FUN!
, :"Drive Resposibly."

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 17:44:58 No.984293
>>978649
>But cyclists don't pay road tax.
>>978736
>>But cyclists don't pay road tax.
>This is the United States, neither do you.

the COST of driving is paid by everyone and fuel and registration pay less than 40% the true burden

consider the indirect costs of driving

Accidents (government-paid cleanup, lost economic activity, etc.)

State and Local Construction, Improvements and Repair

State and Local Highway Maintenance and Operations

Parking (commercial and employer-paid, including government tax)

Waste Disposal (highway cleanup, tire and oil removal)

Air Pollution Damage (health costs, crops, trees, materials, etc.)

External Resource Consumption Costs (economic trade and natural resource use)

Road Noise (property value decrease and abatement)

CO2 Reduction

Water Pollution and Hydrologic Impacts

Barrier Effects on Pedestrians and Bicycles

Land Use Impact Costs

Roadway Land Value

Congestion Cost

To recover these costs, motor vehicles should be accessed a recover fee computed by the vehicle weight times the number of miles driven. When a 2 ton SUV that drives 25,000 miles per year pays $25,000 in "road tax", then I feel that they're paying their fare share.

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 17:46:51 No.984294
>>983526
where in the states do you live, bacon?

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 18:06:39 No.984303
>>978055
>Give me one reason why someone should not to break side mirrors and key cars which park in the bike lane if they can get away with it.
They aren't a commie faggot/nigger without any respect for property rights.

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 18:09:06 No.984304
>>984303
>without any respect
Having respect for the property of others doesn't mean there are no limits or conditions. There are meny ways to forfeir your property rights. Some informal and many even enshrined in law.
Don't be an asshole and you won't get keyed.

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 18:09:43 No.984305
>>984303
>I am an egocentric inconsiderate asshole who does not afford anyone else any respect in my actions, but you should still respect MY rights.

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 18:16:36 No.984309
>>984293
>then I feel that they're paying their fare share.
>then I feel that
>feel

>paying their fare share
>fair share
Wew lad, have you tried being less of a commie faggot?


Either be able to ride 20-25 mph in a lane and pretend you are a motorcycle like you are supposed to, or don't bike in the road at all.


>tl;dr
Have you considered that most of the problems with driving could be solved with wider lanes? Something that poor planing and/or after the fact bike lanes prevent.

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 18:27:35 No.984316
>>984305
>>984304
>>I am an egocentric inconsiderate asshole who does not afford anyone else any respect in my actions, but you should still respect MY rights.
You can disapprove of someone's actions without turning into someone from johannesburg.
Why do you think people should respect your property if you aren't willing to do the same just because someone was inconsiderate/rude?


>Having respect for the property of others doesn't mean there are no limits or conditions.
>There are meny ways to forfeir your property rights. Some informal and many even enshrined in law.
Yes, but the difference is that the informal ways are the result of someone being a cunt and/or stealing...


>>984309
To clarify, proper city planning would resolve the issues that motorists have with cyclists. Issues arise because the bike lane(s) are very often thrown in later without any regard for the impacts they would have.
There is a reason why there are more accidents in parking lots with smaller spaces. The same applies to roads, If you put more entities into the same amount of space, then there will be more accidents both between cars and bikes, and cars and cars.

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 18:39:48 No.984324
>>984316
>Why do you think people should respect your property if you aren't willing to do the same just because someone was inconsiderate/rude?
Are you implying that he expects to have his bike left alone if he parks it in the middle of the road? If not, holy false equivalency Batman!
>the issues that motorists have with cyclists
Ah, fixed cager viewpoint.

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 18:55:11 No.984328
>>978080
Replace that tire,bacon bitchboii

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 18:56:12 No.984330
>>984324
>Ah, fixed cager viewpoint.
Well, yeah... You're acting like the roads weren't built for cars.

>Are you implying that he expects to have his bike left alone if he parks it in the middle of the road?
No... Are you?

>If not, holy false equivalency Batman!
Try again.
The bike lane isn't the middle of the road, it's (next to) the curb...
If someone left his bike in the bike lane, I don't think anon would be advocating sawing off the front posts or slicing up the saddle.
I would hope against all likely hood that anon would just see a hazard and bike around it like a normal person.

And if anon left his bike in the middle of the road, it would get moved. The same thing that would happen to a car.
If anon left his bike in the bike lane, it would get moved. The same thing that would happen to a car.

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 19:02:13 No.984332
>>984330
>Well, yeah... You're acting like the roads weren't built for cars.
I'm from yorup. They weren't.
>The bike lane isn't the middle of the road
It is for bikers. Literally.
And why is it that you're comparing cars parked in the bike lane to hypothetical bikes parked ... in the bike lane? That wouldn't incanvenience cagers. If you want to see what a cager does to bike parked bicycle impeding his or her godgiven rights to the road, park a bicycle in the general purpouse lane.
If you can't bring yourself to test your stupid theories of motorist moral supremacy, please go play with your trains.

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 19:08:07 No.984336
>>984332
>It is for bikers. Literally.
Not in freedom land. The bike lane is a courtesy, like the carpool lane. You are there by choice.
Bikes are vehicles, they have to obey the same rules as everyone else. If you can't handle acting like a car and going into the street when necessary, then:
1. stop
2. go onto the sidewalk
3. walk bike around hazard
4. get back into bike lane
5. if there is no bike lane to return to, then keep walking bike until there is one

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 19:14:59 No.984339
>>984336
>The bike lane is a courtesy
See, this is the mindset that gets you hated and your car keyed. If you like your cage shiny and sparkling, stop treating other road users as guests who are only allowed transportation on your terms and by your good will. Good day, sir. Good day.

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 19:21:02 No.984340
>>984339
The thing is... it is.
Just because it's a courtesy doesn't mean I think I have a right to it. You don't drive in the carpool lane if you aren't carpooling, because it's not for you.

Just because you are eligible for the carpool lane doesn't mean you have to use it. If someone is stopped in the entrance to the carpool lane, you don't stop behind them and damage their property for inconveniencing you. You go around them like a normal person.

Just because you are eligible for the bike lane doesn't mean you have to use it. If someone is stopped in the bike lane, you don't stop behind them and damage their property for inconveniencing you. You go around them like a normal person.

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 19:24:25 No.984341
>>984340
Just like you just "go around" a bike parked in the middle of the road. Drive into the carpool lane if you have to. You don't run the bike over, you don't get out and throw it, you just drive around it. Don't you have steering wheels?

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 19:26:31 No.984344
>>984340
>im the norm and yall should just adapt to whatever and stop fussing
>cager privilege

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 19:33:43 No.984346
>>984341
I can't imagining anyone who isn't stupid or poor running over a bike.

>>984344
Again, bikes are vehicles. pedestrians always have the right of way, but that doesn't mean you j-walk or cross lights without looking both ways.
Just because you are allowed to be on the road and are considered a vehicle, doesn't mean you should act like you are.

>tl;dr
just because you are permitted or in the right doesn't mean you should blindly act like others will acknowledge that. It's always in your best interest to not do so.

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 20:05:09 No.984351
>>978055
If you do this you have my respect and good wishes OP. Cagers dont give a fuck about the lives of cyclists so they need to be treated like the human waste that they are. I cant take revenge on all the evil cagers because i have criminal convictions hanging over me, and if i fuck up again, its jail time.
Smash a mirror for me, old sport.

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 20:15:47 No.984359
There's a little bike path stretch near my house where every time I ride by there's either a car parked on it, or a bunch of broken glass shards on the ground. I avoid such path for obvious reasons, but it always brings a smile to my face.

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 20:40:47 No.984367
>>984351
>i have criminal convictions hanging over me
Gee... I can't imagine why that could be.


You guys are really painting a bad light for cyclists. The train lads just autistically like trains, they don't call for the assault of morons who vandalize trains.
The rare boat lad and plane lad just want to see some more transport.


.


I'm beginning to think that trains, planes, and automobiles (, and boats, and etc) are the true /o/ and bike threads are just for circlejerking. For fuck's sake, I thought /fit/ was full of faggotry.
To put it in perspective, they only allow ONE non-shitpost/non-circlejerk thread up at a time for actual /fit/ content.

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Anonymous 2016-07-22 21:09:04 No.984373
>>984367
>>assault of morons
>scratching property is the same as assault on the owner
>can not mentaly separate his person from his car
The cager mentality is too obvious with this one. I call troll. Or cager with good personal insight and no social inhibitions.

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Anonymous 2016-07-23 05:48:40 No.984530
>>984367
Maybe because their lives aren't daily, casually jeopardized by people tossing hunks of metal into the path of trains, boats, and airplanes?

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Anonymous 2016-07-23 06:06:18 No.984534
>>984340
You might stop behind them and be like, "yo, what's going on, can you move?" And if people blocking HOV lanes was a major social problem, then yeah, people would be justified in taking action to correct it.

Also, bike lanes, HOV lanes, and the like aren't courtesies. They're *infrastructure*. They're in place not to make people feel better but to provide for safer, more efficient, and more reliable moving of people. To accomplish that, they have to be set to their goal.

>>984530
>>978840
>>978841
here, for the record. To repeat my position:

>Anyway, if there was an organized, public campaign to key cars, escalating to breaking windows if cagers didn't get the picture after a couple weeks, this would absolutely make sense and solve the problem pretty fast.

>As it stands, it's just going to piss people off.

And to add: the actual solution is to end private car operation in all but rural areas and replace it with sensible transportation infrastructure: public transit, bikeshares, and private bicycles.

And for the record, I *like* cars, too. Going for a country drive can be as fun as going for a country bike ride. But they're cruddy as fuck, individually and infrastructure wise, for urban transportation.

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Anonymous 2016-07-23 15:28:42 No.984649
>>984367
Trainfags aren't being harassed in the street and/or having their lives purposefully put in danger just for being trainfags.
Honestly, some cagers are so fucking bad that they don't even realize they nearly took you out back there, and get fucking mad at ME!

It would be fine if it stopped there, but otherwise good motorists tend to side with the cagers, and so do the laws when you see what people get away with every day.

>>984373
This.
Is it 'right'? No.
Is vigilante justice dangerous? Yes.
Is it understandable as fuck? Certainly.

They almost have me dead, at the very least put me in a dangerous situation, and all their concerned about is cosmetic damage.

>>984534
I just want stricter law enforcement and tougher tests for the time being.

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Anonymous 2016-07-23 16:21:56 No.984662
>>984649
That's in a way even more impossible, because police departments are on the side of/are cagers, and are in most places very, very insulated against political pressure and civilian control.

Urban planning is a shitshow, but it's usually much more democratically accountable, and transportation departments are usually staffed with people who at least get our concerns.

But I also don't think enforcement matters much. Skirting and flouting rules and then shrugging off consequences – which will always be mediated by structural, social hierarchies as long as those are there – is natural, normal, how people work. How often have you heard "just a traffic ticket?" It can also create weird, fucked situations, like in China, where the peculiarities of tort law have people backing over anyone they hit to finish them off because it winds up being so much cheaper.

The only things that actually tackle social problems are direct, immediate, local action (which obviously is limited) and reshaping the structures that create them. In this case that's literal infrastructure and high modern, Robert Moses George Jetson, cager focused urban culture.

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Anonymous 2016-07-23 16:40:32 No.984664
>>978827
>that picture
Man, right in the fucking feels.

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Anonymous 2016-07-23 22:01:33 No.984775
>>978827
>tfw people steal parts off of ghost bikes where I live
Is nothing sacred?

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Anonymous 2016-08-01 09:17:14 No.988183
Bump

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Anonymous 2016-08-01 11:50:13 No.988205
Why do people want to live in big cities, this thread shows how full of human garbage they are.







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