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General Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo 2016-07-13 07:37:41 No.2882104

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Film General Thread, aka FGT.
>PICTURE EDITION
Hey kids, this time we're going to post pics.
NO posting without a film pic attached.
Lets make the FGT great again.

>just posting in the FGT doesn't make you gay, unless you use mercury intensifier

This is the thread for all of your stupid film questions, and to post your film snapshits without flushing them down the RPToilet.
It's OK to ask about film gear in this thread.

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IG@35mmBandit 2016-07-13 08:04:56 No.2882109
Added a Mamiya 6 to my kit.

Notes:
The meter appears to be pretty accurate (for automatic exposure).
It's very solid (doesn't feel plasticky at all).

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IG@35mmBandit 2016-07-13 08:09:26 No.2882113
>>2882109
Shot a test roll with it (Portra 400)

1/3

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IG@35mmBandit 2016-07-13 08:10:48 No.2882116
>>2882113
2/3

Excuse the shitty scans (quick and dirty test roll).

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IG@35mmBandit 2016-07-13 08:13:09 No.2882117
>>2882116
3/3

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 08:54:54 No.2882129
>>2882109
Nice man! I found the meter to be extremely accurate. Bear in mind the metering area is pretty close to where the 150mm framelines are in the viewfinder. If you remember that you should be able to even meter for E6 accurately with the camera. I recommend coping the 50mm if you get the chance. The 50mm/75mm make it a killer travel kit.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 09:27:41 No.2882141
>>2882109
Now you can throw that hasselblad in the trash.
>>2882117
>>2882116
>>2882113
The same place where those snapshits belong.

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IG@35mmBandit 2016-07-13 09:56:06 No.2882147
>>2882129
Hmm, slide film seems risky but I'll definitely give it a try. The 50mm is next on the list. Have heard great things about it.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 10:40:53 No.2882158


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Anonymous 2016-07-13 10:42:56 No.2882161


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Anonymous 2016-07-13 10:55:14 No.2882165
First roll of Portra 400. Finally (unfortunately) depleted my NC/VC stock.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 11:13:35 No.2882180
>>2881922
>>2882016

Thanks guys. Fujicas sure look like great bodies.

I have a hard time to focus with my Spotmatic's micro-prism especially with the Jupiters.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 11:52:03 No.2882194
Do you guys have some sort of sticky for film or a beginner's guide on how to get started?

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 12:18:38 No.2882202
>>2882194
Buy a film camera, learn shutter speed, aperture and ISO, learn how to focus, you're good to go

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 12:54:26 No.2882218
>>2882194
Doesn't matter what camera you get at first. If you already have a digital camera with interchangeable lenses it'd be smart to buy into a 35mm that can use those lenses.

A big chunk of film photos looking good on the computer comes down to scanning techniques. Film labs generally don't do a good job at scanning (and are oftentimes expensive). Buying yourself a scanner or using a good quality DSLR is usually the more common route.

Unrelated, but I can't get these damn colors right at all.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 13:06:06 No.2882228
>>2882165
>>2882218
One more cause I'm a whore.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 13:21:59 No.2882234
anyone scan prints? any advice on papers to use, techniques, etc

I have a flatbed scanner that can't handle transparent things e.g. negatives, but holds up pretty well when I scan drawings. I figure if I make an 8x10 print or larger, scan it high resolution, then downsize it in post, I can get "pretty close" to the actual detail of the negative right?

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 13:23:23 No.2882235
>>2882218
better?

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 14:06:26 No.2882248
>>2882180
microprisms are a bitch in optimal lighting, impossible in anything darker. I feel you man, split prism 4 life.

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General Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo 2016-07-13 14:06:33 No.2882249
>>2882109
>>2882158
>>2882165
>>2882218
thx for doing
>>PICTURE EDITION
right.
>M
>/fgt/
>G
>A

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Catsby 2016-07-13 15:19:20 No.2882282
I'm looking for a scanner that does both 35mm and medium format well.
I realize I'll get what I pay for, but would prefer not to go bankrupt in buying it.
Any tips?
Not interested in DSLR scanning, but would like to get one which does a decent job.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 15:51:21 No.2882288
>>2882282
I've used a V700 but from what I'm seen and heard, it's a waste to use it on 35mm. You only really get the benefit from large MF and LF.

As usual upwards of 2000dpi isn't going to get much special. As it is, it'll miss much of the detail camera scanning or (well done) optical printing will give you.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 16:00:46 No.2882292
>>2882234
Apologies for the double post

Don't count on it. Optical printing loses a lot of the detail from the negative, or so the theory goes (this is why theory testers will tell you that 5x4 will give you 400MP and tests consistently put it between 80 and 200) anyhow.

As an artistic choice it's not unheard of. Keep it flat (I hold the scanner roof down with something) and scan at a high DPI. If you make adjustments bear in mind that the border - should you include it - is taken into acct by the auto exposure "app".

Some people have talked about "wet scanning" but honestly Idk about it

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 16:47:40 No.2882304
This may sound like a stupid question, but can I use the same fixer for B&W and C41 or do I have to use separate ones?

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 17:01:35 No.2882306
>>2882304
separate ones

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 17:58:00 No.2882346
>>2882306
I see. As far as I understood it, I can reuse the Fixer for B&W, contrary to the developer which I mix when I need it right?

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 18:06:06 No.2882356
Is the Olympus Trip 35 a good starting point for a pleb to get into film point and shoot?

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 18:25:21 No.2882379
Stupid film question: Is is the case that all film of a specific type is the same across all formats of that film? For example, is Ilford Delta 100 the same in 35mm, 120, and 4x5?

I ask because I want to do my own push/pull testing and it would be easier to do it on a sheet by sheet basis (4x5) than wasting an entire roll of 120 even though I will use the results from the test to shoot 120 film.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 18:25:59 No.2882380
>>2882356
yes, but you may as well just get an slr with a program/auto mode

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 19:07:46 No.2882396
>mf vs 35mm tonality differences are a made-up meme
>the only difference is size of enlargements
>more grains per image surface don't change anything

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 19:13:19 No.2882401
>>2882396
top looks a lot better though

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 19:14:11 No.2882402
>>2882396
>>2882396
What comparison is being made in that image?

look at the direction of the shadows, the light is all different in both images.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 19:14:49 No.2882403
>>2882401

uh, of course it does. That's the fucking point.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 19:15:16 No.2882404
>>2882402
Also how is that scanned?

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 19:15:22 No.2882405
>>2882403
but i thought the point was there is no difference?

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 19:18:00 No.2882407
>>2882379
The emulsion will be the same but the film base substrate might differ. So yes, freely test development variations between formats.
>>2882356
Its selenium lightmeter is prone to deterioration and giving bad readings. Look for autofocus cameras with a CdS/silicon lightmetering element (small tiny window instead of a large area like the one around the oly trip's lens, always require batteries) If you want to have some control and room to improve and learn more I strongly suggest a p&s rangefinder like a yashica electro 35, ricoh 500g etc.
>>2882346
Fixer is reusable several times (until it visibly stops fixing, usually between 7-12 rolls), different developers behave differently - some are "one shot" and are discarded after you develop a roll, some can be replenished by adding a bit more after each roll (when developing several rolls in one session, not days between), some by extending developing time for each consecutive roll etc. It's down to your developer of choice.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 19:19:19 No.2882408
>>2882405

then why would he use sarcastic meme arrows? are you new to 4chin?

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 19:21:42 No.2882410
>>2882408
oh, sorry im not as cool as you

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 19:24:54 No.2882411
>>2882402
solely comparison in resolving power by format and tonality, given different times of day and optical elements in either image.
>>2882404
shittily on a joke of a flatbed with horrible inconsistent post
>>2882405
the point is mf and 35mm are extremely different in many noticeable regards and people arguing otherwise are totally entitled to their opinion but also fucking retards.

Now please stop posting about this, we already had the last thread ruined by this argument. I wouldnt have posted this if I hadnt just finished scanning my halfframe iso400 negs with the same testshot scene as a 6x9 folder test I did earlier.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 19:30:45 No.2882416
>>2882396
that's what tonality means you retard, god you're thick

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 19:34:05 No.2882419
>>2882410

You're demonstrably the least cool person on this board. Lurk more, learn the culture, then go fuck yourself.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 19:34:19 No.2882420
>>2882411
>solely comparison in resolving power by format and tonality, given different times of day and optical elements in either image.

does this not rely on the resolving power of the scanner more than the photo negative?
I mean, I get your point
but also
on 35mm
the results I get from my flatbed and the scans I get back from a local photo lab scanner guy are totally different.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 19:39:26 No.2882424
>>2882420
>does this not rely on the resolving power of the scanner more than the photo negative?

No, because the size of the film grains are the same for both formats. Whatever extra detail you would pull out of the 35mm frame, you would also pull out of the MF frame. Granted, the 35mm lens is probably sharper given the demands of the format, but it's not 2 or 3 times sharper (while MF film is 2 or 3 or 5 times biggeR), and it's probably outresolving the film anyway.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 19:44:58 No.2882429
>>2882416
>I honestly and seriously value and respect your opinion and you are a very intelligent and redeemable human being
>>2882420
not in this case, because the film grain's resolving power with this film ends before the scanner's resolving power does, as shit as it demonstrably is. Both these images are crops (to cover same scene as much as possible) of, respectively, a 6x9cm neg (105mm focal) and a halfframe 18x24mm neg (28mm focal) and they are really bad scans. I'm sure both you and the lab do a better job. The difference is still visible and relevant.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 20:02:01 No.2882435
>>2882396
I'm not convinced by your "comparison"

>supposedly comparing tonality
>taken at different times of day
completely idiotic. you might as well have not posted a picture

also
>using different enlargements
that pretty much ruins the point because the argument was never about the size of enlargements

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 20:02:42 No.2882438
How old is too old for

400tx
100tmax
Fijichrome 64

Assume it was stored in a basement

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 20:06:19 No.2882442
>>2882416
>>2882419

Sure is angry in here

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 20:17:06 No.2882454
>>2882438 #
there is no universal ballpark figure.
c41? anything older than 90' has a high chance of looking irredeemably bad (grain, colour shift, loss of speed)
e6 slides? you might as well go play the lottery, anything goes
bw film? depends on speed. high iso degrades faster, 400 probably passable up to 70', tmax ditto (was it even made back then), bracket first 3-4 testshots, meter accordingly afterwards. speed loss, pronounced grain and fogging to be expected. colour film gets it worst.
>>2882435 #
you enlargemented my peepee
>>2882442
fuck off to your hugbox echochamber leddit and kill yourself you retard etc~

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 20:26:51 No.2882459


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Anonymous 2016-07-13 20:36:36 No.2882463
>>2882396
>only shots he ever posts are snapshit """"test"""" shots
lmao kys my man

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 21:00:07 No.2882476
>>2882463
dw girl I've got more where that came from, i.e. this red filter testshot :^)

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 21:05:54 No.2882480
or this uv-pass filter testshot

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 22:00:17 No.2882509
Don't know much about film but I am going to Tampa FL for a week and bought some Fuji 400 disposable cameras just for shits.
I've gotten film developed and scanned before at Walgreens and it was the worst quality I have ever seen, never again.
What would be the best option to develop a few rolls and get some good (not the absolute best) scans?

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 22:17:48 No.2882522
any reccomendations on what film to use when first starting out?

i got a bunch of gear just dno what film to get/use

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 22:21:05 No.2882526
>>2882522
You'll eventually learn what film to use and when but for now just get relatively cheap stuff like superia 200

If you want to go a little higher I'd recommend shooting portra 160 and ektar 100 as they're very forgiving for color

For black and white it's a little dicier but I'd recommend starting off with tmax 100 or tri-x 400

You can get quite a lot of those at around 5 dollars a roll and then once you're familiar with stuff and have a couple favorites try getting into slide film

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 22:32:23 No.2882531
>>2882526
aight, i'll have a look around, thanks

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 22:35:56 No.2882533
>>2882509
>bought some Fuji 400 disposable cameras
>I've gotten film developed and scanned before at Walgreens and it was the worst quality I have ever seen

Disposable cameras always give horrible quality. I developed my film at Walgreens for a few years and never had problems. Never got their scans though. You'll find most places that offer scans offer sub-par resolution for pretty high prices. People who get good lab scans for <$10/roll have found a needle in a haystack.

>>2882235
Looks like you peed on it. Think I just need to try rescanning that one. Something seems to have gotten messed up with it.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 22:41:35 No.2882539
>>2882526
tmax is kind of a bad choice for a beginner, its really responsive to overexposure and overdevelopment

tri-x and hp5 are good because you can literally be a monkey and still come out with decent negatives

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 22:47:52 No.2882543
>>2882454
Does "might as well play the lottery" mean that its a slim chance it will work? The lottery is a billion to one odd right?

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 23:31:47 No.2882563
>>2882539
>tfw tmax, delta and acros are easy to use for me
>tfw never, ever, ever gonna get HP5 to look good EVER
Just doesn't work at all m8,

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 23:34:56 No.2882564
>>2882563
That's because HP5 is a garbage fucking film. I love pretty much everything else Ilford makes, but HP5 is just Tri-X except with disgusting clumpy grain.

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 23:38:42 No.2882567
>>2882563
>>2882564
I agree, its ugly as sin, but for a beginner its very hard to shoot a roll of hp5 or tri-x and come out with black, radically overexposed, blown-out, etc., otherwise fucked up negatives

tmax and delta are much nicer but have steeper learning curves because you have to be careful with development

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Anonymous 2016-07-13 23:58:53 No.2882584
>>2882567

>tmax and delta are much nicer

Highly debatable if t-grain films are better than traditional emulsions.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 00:15:05 No.2882587
>>2882584
I was saying they're nicer than hp5

and that's not debateable :-)

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 00:16:05 No.2882588
>>2882564

HP5+ looks different than Tri-X. HP5+ has very smooth skin tones. Tri-X has that gritty documentary look. Both are great films. It comes down to what you want your photos to look like.

Ilford Pan 400 is also a great film. It's only sold in certain countries but looks excactly like HP5+.

It's my go to iso 400 film now. I buy it from ebay for 15 € three rolls

This picture is Pan 400 developed in Rodinal 1+50.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 00:18:40 No.2882590
>>2882587

And Acros is much better than tmax or delta.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 00:27:01 No.2882593
>>2882590
>Anonymous 07/14/16(Thu)01:16:05 No.2882588
And only available as ISO 100 now ;__;

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 00:27:50 No.2882594
>>2882588
>Tri-X has that gritty documentary look
>this meme again
this isn't 1970. emulsion is different

source: I've done side by side comparisons with hp5 and tri-x (I always shot tri-x but hp5 is cheaper here so I decided to compare). only discernible difference so far has been the grain structure. maybe a tiny tiny jump in contrast

it depends more on the developer than the film, anyway

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 00:32:30 No.2882598
>>2882593
You could always pick up some Neopan 400 off ebay

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 00:33:10 No.2882599
Question

If I am wanting to take a long exposure on 35mm using a 10stop ND filter, can I copy the desired settings from a DSLR that has just captured the shot I want? Or will the settings be different for film?

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 00:37:19 No.2882601
>>2882564
>>2882563
>>2882567
>garbage film
Remember, this is the PICTURE EDITION kids.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 00:41:16 No.2882604
>>2882601
>so I heard you like grain

it is fun being able to shoot handheld at night, tho

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 00:41:53 No.2882605
>>2882141
damn

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 00:44:00 No.2882608
>>2882601
Have a snapshit to make up for it fgt
>>2882598
Yeah, but I'm still sad to see it go since I'd still love to shoot it in 10 or 20 years.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 00:44:38 No.2882610
>>2882604
>fast color film
absolutely disgusting.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 00:45:39 No.2882611
>>2882610
One more. Both are Fuji Acros pushed to 400, by the way.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 00:55:38 No.2882613
>>2882610
>>2882611
like i said, its fun

still looks better than those overcooked turds tho :)

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 01:03:46 No.2882618
>>2882613
mm thats tasty

what setup/film?

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 01:20:57 No.2882625

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 01:21:47 No.2882626
>>2882594

Shoot people and compare the skin tones. HP5+ has really smooth skin tones. Tri-X shows blemisesh etc. better.

See my point?

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 01:26:07 No.2882628
>>2882610
>>2882611

This high contrast meme is terrible. Your pictures are awful.

Acros has so beautiful tonality and you rape it like this. Fuck you.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 01:42:26 No.2882642
>>2882618
cinestill 800 (so kodak 500t cross-processed in c41)

I like it because its the cheapest and most easily available tungsten based film around anymore, but damn is it grainy

I would honestly expose it at 320 or lower

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 01:52:25 No.2882648
>>2882628
>Dictating how people shoot film
You don't like it it when your food touches, don't you

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 03:55:41 No.2882707
>>2882601
>>2882564
>>2882563
>>2882567
>garbage film

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 04:00:36 No.2882708
>>2882707
>garbage film

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 04:04:04 No.2882710
>>2882708
>garbage film

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 04:05:03 No.2882711
>>2882707
>>2882708
yeah, it is
the grain is unpleasant compared to other 400 speed films

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 04:05:18 No.2882712
>>2882710
>garbage film

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 04:06:45 No.2882713
>>2882711
also those tones are gross. flat and dull, man what are you doing?

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 04:09:25 No.2882716
>>2882712
>>2882711
Sorry, can't hear you over the sound of all this
>garbage film

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 04:15:07 No.2882721
>>2882716
Don't forget the garbage image, too

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 04:33:58 No.2882735
>>2882721
>>2882713
>>2882711
All of YOUR pictures are really proving your point, aren't they?

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 04:40:33 No.2882737
>>2882735
why would I post shitty hp5 pictures, when you're already doing that for me

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 04:48:30 No.2882738
>>2882716
>>2882710
>>2882735
>>2882712
hp5 always seems to have great texture

anyone shoot pan f 50?

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 04:54:42 No.2882741
>>2882738
Just a roll of 120. For me it's ok. but really not fine grained enough to justify the slow speed.
Something like FP4 is just as sharp, but a whole stop faster, and gives you massive latitude.
For a slow film I prefer Rollei Retro 80S or Ortho 25.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 04:58:19 No.2882744
>>2882741
I'm guessing the case is the same for 35mm?

>tfw no 120 yet

I'd shoot portra 160 all day if I had something that could shoot 120 though

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BJDrew 2016-07-14 05:14:18 No.2882757
Found some old scans - I believe this is Portra NC 160

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 05:45:20 No.2882772
>>2882599
no.
google reciprocity failure and look up data for your film. it might turn out you won't need such a strong nd filter for your desired exposure time, too.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 06:45:54 No.2882793
I feel so happy cause I never knew how little 500/el's cost compared to regular 500s or even compared to the focal plane bodies

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 09:48:25 No.2882841
>>2882757
>static subject in daylight
>shoots wide open
>misses focus
4/10 for the on fleek 80's qt slut on hog meme

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BJDrew 2016-07-14 10:00:56 No.2882842
>>2882841
>>2882841
Wide open? Missed focus? What are you

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 10:12:46 No.2882848
>>2882842
All that softness and LoCA on the chrome. The focus appears to be on her top hand.
Sorry, if that's stopped down and still abberating like that, I feel bad for you son. I assumed it was some f/4.5 memeya prime. Maybe it has focus shift too. Shoot better lenses.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 10:35:57 No.2882864
>>2882842
Drew, drew... it's like you don't know anyone online can tell everything about your camera, optics, settings, digitising method, postprocessing steps and diameter of your left thigh solely by looking at your web resize photo. It's like your new here. Sweet socks in that photo, shame about that parking ticket in your backpocket and that coffee stain on your jeans, tho.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 11:01:55 No.2882868
>>2882864
Slav, slav, it's like you don't know that when optical defects are plainly visible in the web-resized photo you took with professional equipment in the context of a professional shoot, you probably just fucked up.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 11:16:53 No.2882871
>>2882610
>>2882611
Is that really what it looks like pushed, or is there some heavy editing involved too? What developer?

Acros in Rodinal is one of my favorite combos.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 11:19:44 No.2882872
>>2882871

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 13:25:37 No.2882937
>>2882871
HC-110, and no there wasn't much processing there they were just high contrast scenes to begin with.

Personally I like the look sometimes, it's not for everything though and I haven't been pushing film as much anymore because I've been printing more and making decent prints from those negatives is hell. They scan fine, though.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 13:34:23 No.2882940
Why film when you can get a Fuji XT-2?

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 13:43:49 No.2882945
>>2882940
This, with the filters provided within Fuji bodies and superior Leica-like lenses made by Fuji, there is literally no reason to shoot film in this day and age.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 13:59:58 No.2882954
>>2882945
>>2882940
>samefagging this hard
>not posting pictures
Come back when Fuji can even come close to emulating ITS OWN FILM IN ITS OWN CAMERAS

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 14:13:05 No.2882967
>>2882954
We have light room for that, dummy. Get with the times.

INB4 "that's an extra step you have to take" well at least I don't have to wait hours to develop a single roll.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 14:14:59 No.2882968
>>2882940
>Buys a digital camera that tries to look like a film camera, has ergonomics similar to a film camera, has a sensor design "inspired by the natural random arrangement of fine silver halide grains in film", and uses processing to try to imitate film
>Y-you don't need f-fucking film

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 14:26:55 No.2882978
>>2882968
Well why not spend the money and get film quality, straight to digital, no fuzz or process, and lots post processing capabilities?

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 14:38:16 No.2882987
>>2882978
Because I don't want straight to digital, I want to hold negatives in my hands and spend long hours hunched over trays of smelly chemicals in a dimly red lighted room making wet prints from them because that's something that gives me satisfaction and results that I like. Before you came to this thread to shit on film and start proclaiming THERE'S LITERALLY NO REASON TO SHOOT FILM because it's not what you want, did it occur to you that other people may have their own reasons for liking it?

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 14:44:15 No.2882988
>>2882987
Wow, sniffing all those chemicals really messed you up. I'm glad I went Fuji

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 14:49:44 No.2882991
>>2882988
See OP, I'm glad I went Fuji too.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 15:32:17 No.2883022
I found a Canon Snappy S and a Pentax Espio 738 among my parent's old shit. Are these any good or just rubbish?

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 15:38:15 No.2883025
>>2883022
It's rubbish. buy a fuji instead.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 15:40:18 No.2883028
>>2883025
I'm looking into a L35AF or Electro 35 or both.

Though I'd give them a whip before purchasing those.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 15:42:32 No.2883030
>>2883028
Not what i meant, i meant get a fuji digital camera. don't bother with film.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 15:42:47 No.2883031


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Anonymous 2016-07-14 15:44:43 No.2883034


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Anonymous 2016-07-14 15:49:33 No.2883038


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Anonymous 2016-07-14 17:44:34 No.2883102
Best price on higher speed color film?

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 18:22:53 No.2883123
>>2882396
I know where you live, chuju jebany

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 18:46:02 No.2883131
>>2883123
finally someone satisfyingly stalky to check the visible street address in google maps with the characteristic street/building layout in a couple major cities, good grief that took a while. Yeah, my secret's out, I live on the topmost flight of stairs by the window :c

Here's your prize rodaku

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Vlodo 2016-07-14 19:13:43 No.2883146
>>2883131
too bad the context of this photo is understandable only for a polak
since it's /fgt/ I'm posting a photo too, focusing with Rollei 35 is fun and shit at the same time

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 19:29:42 No.2883161
>>2883146
>literal mysterious shadowy figure

Yeah, I sometimes regret some of the passable stuff I do isn't suitable for an international audience.

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BJDrew 2016-07-14 20:11:41 No.2883179
>>2882848
Given there is no region of great sharpness and camera shake wasn't in play, I would more likely assume defect in the (shitty, consumer grade) scan.

I am pretty certain this is f4-5.6, and it is a Bronica kit lens. Not surprised at the purple fringing.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 20:17:15 No.2883180
>>2883179
>Bronica kit lens
ETRS?
The 80mm on the SQ is absolutely perfect. Not entirely sure how much worse a 6x4.5 would be, unless you were absolutely crazy and owned a GS

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 20:18:19 No.2883181
Bronica or Mamiya?

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 20:18:59 No.2883182
>>2883181
What negative size? What focal lengths? What features do you need?

Just buy a fucking Bronica.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 20:20:14 No.2883183
Drying marks on my negatives are driving me insane.

I have no access to distilled water. Will battery water help?

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 20:22:32 No.2883184
>>2883181

Pentax 645.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 20:25:41 No.2883186
>>2883182
120/220

The two I'd most need would be a short tele and something a bit wide like something with a 75 degree fov like a 24-28mm 35mm equivalent

>What features do you need?

I'd like it to have a built in meter but it's not completely necessary

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 20:27:06 No.2883187
>>2883183
add two drops of dishwashing liquid to final rinse. or any other non-viscous detergent. distilled water is sold everywhere people use steam irons, strange you've no access. Ice from your freezer smell aside is literally condensed moisture, without any groundwater ions - it's a poor man's distilled water in a pinch.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 20:30:06 No.2883191
>>2883183
Deionised water works fine. Photoflo or tiny amount of dishwashing liquid (like dilute 1/10 and use 1 drop, if it foams its too much) may also help.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 20:32:12 No.2883192
>>2883186
>120/220
Yeah, that was assumed. Are you wanting to shoot 6x4.5, 6x6, 6x7 or 135 pano?

You can get finders for some systems with a meter if you REALLY needed it.
Priority features on MF are things like what finder you can use, shutter speed, leaf/focal plane shutter, mirror lock up or different backs (like 135 pano).

As for a wide lens, you'll be able to get your hands on fairly wide lenses like the 35mm f3.5 for M645 or 40mm f4 for the Bronica SQ system which are about 22-24mm (135 eqv).

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 20:34:08 No.2883194
>>2883187
>>2883191

Dishwashing liquid doesn't help. I still get terrible drying marks.

Distilled water is only sold in pharmacies on my country and is very expensive.

I try deionized water. Battery water at least is cheap to try.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 20:37:20 No.2883196
>>2883194
A really, really silly question. Have you tried your supermarket or a car store if you have one?
As for drying marks, I sometimes get them even with photoflo/washing up liquid. Usually depends on the temperature in my house and how humid it is.

During summer like now where the average temp inside is 22-24c it happens all the time. So much that I need to switch my dehumidifier off while drying film.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 20:38:36 No.2883198
>>2883192
Thanks

I'd love a 6x4.5 and 6x7 back which it appears I can get along with an sq-a real cheap

Is there anywhere that I can read about the different models easily? Like what's the difference between the sq-a, sq-b, and etrs

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 20:47:21 No.2883203
>>2883196

Yep I've checked. They only sell deionized water and not distilled.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 20:53:29 No.2883209
I got skimpy and bought Fomapan 100 instead of Acros.

Terrible film. Unsharp, coarse grain for an iso 100 film and very gray tonality.

And I bough 5 rolls of that shit.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 21:03:44 No.2883215
>>2883209
>bad workman, tools, blame, etc~
foma can only justify its emulsions with their price, and even then by a slim margin.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 21:10:16 No.2883221
>>2883198
Places like camera wiki or camerapedia have some info, searching model numbers will give you sometimes older html pages with a wealth of info.

A note, Smaller bodies like the M645, ETRS, SQ etc will only shoot that format or smaller. For 6x7 you need to move up to something like the RB/RZ67 or GS-1.
Bronica SQ will shoot 6x6, 135 (36x24) and 135 pano all with different backs.
Mamiya 645 will shoot 6x4.5 and 135 (36x24)

Another thing I forgot to mention regarding features is the availability of a grip/motor drive. since MF SLR's are more of a box shape, if you prefer shooting like a 35mm/DSLR you may want to pick up a grip and prism finder, both of which will add a good bit of weight onto the rig.

Butkus.org has manuals for a variety of cameras and accessories. Don't be scared to read through 'em for a few days before settling for a camera.
If focal length multipliers confuse you then use this site: https://www.pointsinfocus.com/tools/depth-of-field-and-equivalent-lens-calculator/

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 21:24:37 No.2883226
>>2883209
I have a few untouched rolls of Foma 100 in my fridge.

I shoot F400 regularly though because it's cheap. It's my official snapshit emulsion.

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BJDrew 2016-07-14 21:34:04 No.2883238
>>2883180
My phrasing was bad. It's an ETRS. The lens is a fine design, but my scanning workflow has always been shit and shows all kinds of weird stuff.

Wide open at f2.8, this image would look very different, and given that the whole image is mushy, I guess I was wondering what would make someone conclude it was a focus issue. I might learn something.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 21:51:53 No.2883242
>>2883238
m8, you're reading too far into it.
It is a focus issue. the plane of focus is sharp, it's just behind the front of the bike.
Look at the kickstand and the bitumen around it, you can see the plane of focus.
And like i said, her hand and face are sharp too.
And even then, it wouldn't have been AS much of an issue if it wasn't for the subject matter being 90% polished chrome, which is the absolute best way to show longitudinal chromabs. If you'd just rocked back on your heels 10cm, that pinkish glow on your highlights would be gone, and Kim Wilde would have still been plenty sharp.
Remember your DOF extends further behind the plane of focus than it does in front.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 21:57:18 No.2883246
>>2883242
>breaking my own thread rules
PICTURE EDITION

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 21:58:45 No.2883247
>>2882161
lol

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 22:01:43 No.2883248
>>2882438
I dont think you can develop fujichrome anymore?

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 22:06:17 No.2883250
>>2883246
absolute ASS

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 22:07:12 No.2883251
>>2883248
I don't think you should post when you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

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Anonymous 2016-07-14 22:17:19 No.2883255
>>2883248
You can't develop kodachrome you dongus.

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 02:51:37 No.2883394
>>2883184
Ever thought of people wanting to be able to swap out viewfinders and backs and even shoot the camera without a grip attached?

I'm looking at getting a Bronica, in this case I'm eyeing up either the GS-1 and the S2a

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 03:07:04 No.2883399
>>2883394
Fall for the square format meme instead.

How do all the different Bronica systems compare, anyway? I really like my SQ but I always wondered what the others are like, it seems like they just made a bunch of very similar square brick bodies but each with its own format and set of lenses.

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 03:08:06 No.2883401
>>2883250
:^)
glad you like it then

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 03:19:38 No.2883408
>>2883399
I wouldn't mind a GS-1 tbqh with a 6x4.5 and 6x6 back or two. The only problem is the lack of 35mm pano back and wide lenses.

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 03:43:03 No.2883421
>>2883399
I said S2, not SQ. The S2/S2a are older focal plane bodies, they're entirely mechanical as well.

The S2 focal plane also had interchangeable focusing helicoids and its lenses were mostly Nikkor glass

>>2883408
I want a GS-1 mainly because I want to shoot 6x7 but I want a body that's small and compact. And the GS-1 seems to be the smallest and most compact 6x7 slr out there

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 03:51:47 No.2883425
>>2883421
I was focusing on the GS-1 you mentioned. Why would you want an S2 over an SQ anyway though? Focal plane is inferior to leaf shutters, mechanical is inferior to electronic, the Nikkor lenses aren't really any better than the Bronica lenses. The SQ system is pretty much better in every way.

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 03:59:44 No.2883430
>>2883425
It's not that much better. sure it's got more electronics and leaf shutters but leaf shutters are only good for flash sync. the S2a goes up to 1/1000. As well because of the interchangeable helicoids you can make your own lenses and there was even adapter so that you could attach lenses designed for Nikon's reflex housing lenses. There is an electronic version, the EC-TL, which besides being electronic also has TTL metering built into the camera body. THe only benefit of leaf shutters besides the flash sync is them being quieter which with an SLR like the SQ or even a hasselblad isn't going to make much of a difference as it's still oging to be quite loud because of the sound of the mirror flipping up and down. As well with the S2a the mirror is in two pieces that both flip back when firing the shutter which allows for lenses that recess deeper into the body without the need for mirror lockup. And since the shutter isn't in the lens lenses were made by third party manufacturers as well

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 05:22:21 No.2883453
>>2883194
>>2883203
make your own distilled water

inb4
>it is very hard to find stove in my country

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 06:43:53 No.2883482
does film "self-correct"?

I developed my very first film and one thing that got me was how well exposed every single shot was. I am using an all-manual camera and I'm pretty sure I must've been off on some of my shots, especially some of the low-light indoor shots that I pretty much guessed the shutter speed at 3 seconds.

did I get really fucking lucky, or does film have some tendency to develop towards some normal exposure?

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 06:58:26 No.2883501
>>2883482
well if you had a lab develop it then they probably adjusted the scans/prints

but yeah film has an amazing exposure latitude when compared to digital, its the only reason i shoot is, well that and the cameras are cooler

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 07:00:40 No.2883504
why are you guys so obsessed with scanning and film emulsions, it's all the same shit.

no one cares how sharp your photos are, it's all about the content

using a fucking drum scanner isn't going to turn your mf photo of a tractor in the desert into gold

you guys are worse than pixel peeping digi fags

i love film tho

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 07:09:09 No.2883513
>>2883501
I developed and scanned it myself. It's quite impressive, very forgiving. Another reason not to miss the chimp

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 07:09:39 No.2883515
>>2883504

>Not pixel peeping Adox to shame digifags.

>>2883474

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 07:14:20 No.2883523
>>2883504
I'm really concerned with your post. You don't seem to own a keyboard with a shift key. You do however have access to some punctuation.

Now this is where it gets really crazy. You just have no respect for fullstops at all. Used on the first sentence only after you used a comma. Then no more. It's all about the comma and apostrophe.

How the fuck are you still alive?

I don't give a fuck about scanning, I do care about properties of the film though. I care about lattitude, grain and ease of development. I care about content too much, to the point of not posting.

i love digital tho

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 07:35:29 No.2883537
>>2883523
>haha! a spelling error! now i don't have to respond to the argument!

also it's called a period you fucking bong .

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 07:39:02 No.2883538
>>2883537
I responded to your post. I really need to know how you're still alive as you seem to be legally blind too or have no reading comprehension. Tell me how you have not drunk a quart of bleach yet?

I'm not sure you're also aware of what an argument is; you certainly have issues with reading comprehension.

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 07:58:30 No.2883539
>>2883430
One of the best parts about the leaf shutters in the SQ is the glorious T-mode. Makes long exposures an absolute joy to do. No stupid cable releases or anything needed.

>>2883504
>no one cares how sharp your photos are, it's all about the content

Agreed. But there is a certain quality benchmark that should be reached. Otherwise you're leaving out qualities that will make a great photo even better.

People talking about lines per mm are lame as fuck, but wanting to get decent scans of your images is totally reasonable.

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 08:05:48 No.2883541
>>2883539
is this a moonlight long exposure or a night+early dawn combo?

also; pls dont diss lpm, not everyone has the luxury of being picky ;<

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 08:31:38 No.2883550
>>2883541
Moonlight + dying campfire (hence the slightly red light on the tree bark). Exposure time ~10-15 minutes I think (though part of me wants to say it was closer to 30).

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 10:51:25 No.2883571
>>2883539
Seeing as you mentioned sharpness, Why is yours so unsharp?
Is it because the camera moved and the slide is not sharp, or because you don't know how to sharpen?

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 11:16:40 No.2883583
>>2883571
The tree bark is pretty sharp. From what I remember the slide was sharp.

Bottom of the frame is soft because this is shot at f3.5 and focused on the tree. Top of the tree is soft because the branches were blowing in the wind.

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 11:42:21 No.2883593
Anyone has experience shooting this kawaii film?

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 11:45:57 No.2883594
>>2883593

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 12:20:10 No.2883603
>>2883593
>>2883594
It's rebranded discontinued film stock if I remember correctly. Probably something like Fujicolor C200 or one of the ceased Agfa stocks.

I don't think any Chinese companies make their own emulsions these days

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 12:24:25 No.2883605
>>2883593
>>2883594
Seems to be balanced for quite orange light so if you shoot it outdoors or in most situations it comes out quite blue. There's not a whole lot of information about it on the internet. Just shoot and see what happens

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Anonymous 2016-07-15 12:36:07 No.2883612
Probably seen this a thousand times, but I finally decided to buy a decent camera and got an a6000, although pictures are great, I'm a bit more interested in shooting video and it only does 1080 which is slightly worrying from what I've seen.

The a6300 is 500 bucks more, which is money I just don't have right now.
Did I fuck up? I want to learn how to use a camera before spending a thousand bucks on something, am I a retard?







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