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/p/ Photography

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 17:08:22 No.2604413

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Gear thread.

If you have questions about a new camera, what lenses to buy and anything related to gear or wondering about getting into photography, post it in this thread.
Do not attempt to make a new thread for your new Rabal, broken glass and being new. You have been warned!

And don't forget, be polite!

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 17:22:28 No.2604429
Best EOS film camera out there for about $25-$100? I've already got some EF glass.

Anonymous 2015-06-12 17:24:23 No.2604432
EOS3 if you can find it.
Elan7 if you can't.

Anonymous 2015-06-12 17:26:11 No.2604433



Anonymous 2015-06-12 17:31:00 No.2604438
I like to shoot outdoors (mostly landscapes and nature) in daylight. Should I get a ND or graduated ND filter and if yes what kind?

Anonymous 2015-06-12 17:34:54 No.2604442
You have to have filters if you shoot landscape. If you want to photography anything that involves the sun (dawn/dusk, sunset, sunrise) ND is a must. If you want long exposure, your camera most likely has averaging function, or you can just take 10-20 shots and average them in post.
What kind depends on the lighting and subject so I suggest you get as many as you can.

Anonymous 2015-06-12 17:35:30 No.2604443
They're very different. Which do you need? They solve specific problems. If you have the problems they solve, you know it. If you don't, you don't need either of them.

Anonymous 2015-06-12 17:40:52 No.2604451
sorry I'm just starting out so not sure exactly what you mean by the averaging function. Is it the same as bracketing? Also how do I average them?
well my sky is often too blown out that's what I thought a graduated filter might be best

Anonymous 2015-06-12 17:43:01 No.2604452
>well my sky is often too blown out that's what I thought a graduated filter might be best
Well there you go. What would you do with an ND fiilter? If you have an answer, then get one. If not, then don't.

Anonymous 2015-06-12 18:32:00 No.2604506
You need HDR.
Either you use the buolt-in HDR function (if your camera has one) or use bracketing and do it in post.

Anonymous 2015-06-12 19:12:55 No.2604531
Complete Amateur here.

So I recently acquired a Samsung NX300; good choice or no? The only complaint I really have with it is the lack of EVF.. I like it a lot so far regardless. Just wondering about any opinions on the camera, even though I only saw good reviews for it.

Anonymous 2015-06-12 19:19:52 No.2604535
You already bought it, don't expect a pat on the back for it.
Also it is an oversized point-and-shoot, hence the lack of viewfinder. If you have spent a bit more research on the whole photography thing you could've found a good DSLR with a fair price.
Buying mirrorless as a newbie is the worst decision but most people do it anyways.
Whatever, the damage is done, go out and take some damn photos!

Anonymous 2015-06-12 19:42:11 No.2604545
Makes no difference if its a DSLR or mirrorless man

Anonymous 2015-06-12 19:47:33 No.2604550
>buying big point and shoot, use it as a point and shoot
>buying a big chunky DSLR, use liveview in auto
Damn you are right

Anonymous 2015-06-12 20:26:11 No.2604570
You did good, don't listen to this idiot >>2604535 he is probably the type of guy that buys a 5dmk3 to take pictures of his pets and cousins. Somehow people think that the fact that samsung makes phones,tvs and a shit ton of other stuff makes their cameras bad, complete non-sense.

I bought the same camera and people said "omg no viewfinder, you won't be able to shoot in broad day light". Pure bullshit, I spent the whole day in the sun shooting an event today, no issues today or any other day since i bought it. I am not sure where people got this idea, the image does fade a bit if you have the sun shinning straight into the screen but it is completely visible, even with sun glasses on. Maybe they are comparing to liveview in dslrs ?

It's a very good camera, if you take into account the price, decent IQ and it's quite durable, I even had it with me during a snow storm on the top of a mount once (althought i wouldn't recommend you get cocky with it as it is not weather sealed of couse).

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:15:01 No.2604598
okay, I want full frame. I do way too much indoor photography and need the lowlight ability

any word on when pentax will finally release theirs? otherwise, d610 for $1000?

Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:19:57 No.2604604
>any word on when pentax will finally release theirs?
Late this year, probably around November. Are you already bought in to either Pentax's or Nikon's lens systems?

Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:25:29 No.2604608
What's the deal with Micro 4/3? I've seen lots of people on /p/ talk shit, obviously it has its drawbacks from full frame but I've been doing lots of wilderness work and am planning on doing 20+ mile hikes this summer with a camera.

I like that the lenses are cheaper and in terms of sharpness it seems like m4/3 is cheaper for the quality.

I've been looking at the Olympus e-m5ii but the autofocus on the e-m1 looks great for wildlife (also the 2x crop factor seems to be desirable for lightweight wildlife).

Any opinions/experiences with switching to/from m4/3 would be appreciated

Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:30:06 No.2604613
How weak are you? Damn fatties these days can't take 1kg equipment for a hike.
I weep for this generation

Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:31:44 No.2604619
So I'd like to invest in a decent film camera, just to begin with. Any recommendations?

Preferably something small, but not tiny, (basically just not huge like most DSLRs).

With your recommendation, what do you especially like about the camera?

A friend recommended the Pentax K1000, though I don't know much about film cameras enough to see if there are any better choices.


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Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:33:54 No.2604621
I went from a Pentax DSLR to m43 and am now moving to FE with the laea mirror box

it's so much easier to carry around an mft camera with a pancake that it's nuts. you can pocket an olympus pen with the bodycap lens.

depth of field is the biggest hassle. with the average lens it can be just shallow enough that you have to worry about it being oof and soft but not shallow enough to get a good deep separation when I want it. the images on some mft cameras are visibly noisy at base ISO. you can't underexpose them 3 stops and push them in post (for creamy rounded highlights) like you can with a Nikon.

I love the mirrorless method. I used my Pentax DSLR for so long that the AE and AF are drifting and it's creating overexposed and out of focus images every week. that never happens with mirrorless cameras, since they get AE and AF data straight from the sensor.

an A7 or at least APS-C mirrorless would be ideal for me to avoid the lack of flexibility from the mft cameras.

i don't love Sony APS-C, but look into Fuji x if those problems are going to bother you.

Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:34:52 No.2604623
Take a look at the Pentax ME Super, it has built-in metering

Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:37:48 No.2604627
>implying there is a difference between film cameras
>implying the difference isn't in the film

people bicker about digital because there is software and hardware differences (burst rate, read rate, sensor age/type)

Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:39:22 No.2604632
You should get an ME Super instead of a K1000. The K1000 is all-mechanical and has an actual dial for shutter speeds, which is nice. But the thing about the K1000 is that for years and years it's been used in college photo classes due to it being widely available and all-manual. On top of that demand, people buy it because they want the "cred" of that film-school camera, so you pay a Hipster Tax when you buy a K1000.

The ME Super is more compact, has the same nice viewfinder, accepts the same K-mount lenses, and is cheaper. You can get an ME Super in good condition for $50 or less, you're looking at twice that at least for a K1000. And you get aperture-priority mode, too.

Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:44:43 No.2604634
M4/3 user here.

/p/ talks shit about M4/3 because they think that the sensor is on par with cell phones, when in fact it is only about 1 1/3 - 1 2/3rds of a stop less than Sony's full frame sensors. Perhaps some of them feel threatened that their long term investment in Canikon DSLRs and lenses is losing relevancy as more and more people try to dump their DSLR collections as they switch to mirrorless, pushing down the price of used lenses.

As far as lens sharpness for price paid, M4/3 is unbeatable. Nearly every mid and high level lens is absurdly sharp, even wide open. Examples are the 25mm 1.8, 45mm 1.8, 12mm 2, 75mm 1.8, and all of the "PRO" lenses. The "PRO" zooms are a real value. the 12-40 2.8 is only $1000 new, and can be had for $600 used. Canon's is $1899. The 40-150 f/2.8 is a lens that cannot be matched. Does anyone else even make a 80-300mm f/2.8 lens? Anyway, its absurdly sharp. Just magnificent.

The E-M1 will give you better AF Tracking than the E-M5 II. If you are doing a lot of moving animals, it will be a bit better than the E-M5. For single point to point AF, the E-M5 II is just as good.

And yes, M4/3 is pretty much the perfect balance for light weight and top performance. An E-M1 or E-M5 II with the 40-150 f/2.8 and the 1.4x teleconverter would be incredible for wildlife.

For high ISO, even the smaller M4/3 sensor is so good these days that it really doesn't matter unless you want to shoot at f/8 in the dark, taking pictures of running animals. But even an A7S would have trouble with that.

I don't think you'd regret switching from Canikon DSLRs to M4/3, unless you are one of those people who LOVES shooting at f/1.2 on full frame.

Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:45:34 No.2604635
The K1000 has a meter, it just can't set the exposure itself based on it. It's a match-needle deal, the needle in the viewfinder will be horizontal when the camera reckons the exposure is right, based on what it's seeing through the lens.

carlo 2015-06-12 21:49:40 No.2604638
i currently have a 24-105 f4, 17-40 f4, and plan on getting a 70-200 f2.8 for my 5dm2

should i sell the 24-105 to help pay for the 70-200 or is the 24-105 good enough to keep for the long run?

Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:52:49 No.2604642
if I remember correctly, the 24 - 105 is one of the worst Canon lenses. If you want the 24 - 105 lens type, I would replace it with a Sigma. if not, I would replace it with a 24 - 70, or a 50 millimeter prime.

Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:57:04 No.2604644
Let's see your ISO 6400 evening shots then.

Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:57:20 No.2604645
>If you want the 24 - 105 lens type, I would replace it with a Sigma
The Sigma isn't any better than the Canon.. so save a few bucks, sell the 24-105L and get that 70-200. You're gonna love it.

Anonymous 2015-06-12 21:59:21 No.2604647
sigma no better? look again. the art 24-105 is visibly cleaner and sharper without looking at crops.

carlo 2015-06-12 22:02:05 No.2604649
my problem here is versatility. the 70-200 is big as shit and i'm torn with it. i just bought the 24-105 a few months too. i get the use for the 70-200 but i dunno. i wish i had the 24-70 and a fisheye instead of my 17-40 but $$$$$$$$$$

Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:02:39 No.2604650
though, regardless of where you stand on the matter, the 70 - 200 2.8 is an absolutely excellent lens and may be the most fun to own.I'm without one right now, and having had one in the past, I honestly don't know what to do with myself.even if it means getting rid of other lenses it's worth having

Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:09:44 No.2604653
Don't have any hand held night shots at 6400, but here is something even more challenging.

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carlo 2015-06-12 22:09:59 No.2604654
yo this is probably a local scam but.... what the fuck. i emailed immediately

Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:20:24 No.2604658
Why are people so upset the A-Mount is no longer the number 1 priority for Sony?
I can't even figure out if they are serious or if they are trolling.

It's just a bunch of old APS-C lenses as far as I can see.
If the future is with Full Frame, isn't it natural to ditch A-Mount?

Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:22:27 No.2604659
And do a touch of noise reduction and you get this.

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:23:52 No.2604660
a mount is Sony APSC, Sony full frame, and Minolta full frame. it's the death of an autofocus mount that's been around possibly as long as Canon EOS. when you include Minolta, there is an endless sea of high-quality lenses including multiple versions of everything a modern photographer uses.

Anonymous 2015-06-12 22:55:58 No.2604674
Whats the zoom on that little pentacks equivalent to?

Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:00:40 No.2604681
>people that don't like being creatively limited by their are dumb because they don't like what I like.

You don't seem to understand that people want a shallow DOF so they can isolate the subject from the background. It's not just "muh bokehball" masturbatory behavior, most people like to take portraits like that as well, people that pay for photos. If they wanted they pictures taken with everything in focus they would just use a point and shoot and take the pictures themselves.

Like in this shot >>2604659 if you had the DOF of a FF in this shot we wouldn't be seeing that guy in the backgroun and wonder if he is playing a keyboard or a turntable and notice tyhat water bottle is chopping his face , or that you made that pipe grow out of the guitarist head would probably be less evident if noticeable at all.

Not to mention that before and after your pp the picture looks like a phone jpeg, the detains in his face are completely mushy.

Anyway this has only convinced me that people that don't care about the compromises of m43 aren't decent photographers to begin with.

Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:00:41 No.2604682
Olympus OM2n is sexy though

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Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:10:35 No.2604687
I think a lot of people have old Konica Minolta gear, and like the backward compatibility. Especially if they also want to shoot film, that lets them have one set of lenses to do it with.

hey, sometimes you do find a steal there. Just demand to meet in a public place (some police stations actually have places set aside for Craigslist transactions) and demand to examine the lens and shoot some test shots with it before you buy it. >>2604642 is right, it ain't the best glass Canon's made. But for that price you might as well try it.

Anonymous 2015-06-12 23:54:05 No.2604724
Pentax Q7
Camera 12mp - $450
Pentax 560mm f5.6 - $5000

Looks from other photog wannabe's:

560mm x 4.7 = 2632mm

f 5.6 x 4.7 = f 26.32

Nice and sweet, best pro-sports combination currently available, best bang for your low light IQ buck.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 00:38:16 No.2604737
That shutter speed ring is retarded though.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 00:55:51 No.2604739
I walked around and took some pictures today in an attempt to pinpoint whatever is wrong with my camera's exposure meter. I hadn't realized that a camera nine years old could have so much dynamic range. And it makes me very curious how much the Sony sensors have improved since then.

Sunlight clouds and fully shaded land brought together with luminance masks, and no noise that I can see. Bless you, Sony.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 01:21:50 No.2604746
Even if that shot was taken at f/1.2 on full frame, the subject if far enough away that you will still clearly make out the background. And the face details look good to me.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 01:34:34 No.2604748
Okay so this doesn't quite belong in the gear thread, but there is a gear thread and there isn't a stupid questions thread, so I thought it'd be better to ask here

I need to remove some minor imperfections from some images. I need a healing brush/clone stamp sort of thing. What can/should I use to do that that isn't photoshop?

Anonymous 2015-06-13 01:35:48 No.2604750
Print out the image 8x10 on matte archival paper and use your household professional airbrushing kit to spot up the imperfections by hand.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 03:10:48 No.2604781
I would like to get an old Nikon full-frame camera, but I'm not smart enough to understand all of Nikon's deprecated model numbers and tiers. Which model(s) should be the cheapest currently?

Anonymous 2015-06-13 04:18:03 No.2604810

D700 and D3 are the oldest. The D700 should be the cheapest, but the D600 can be had for the same price, since while being a whole generation newer, it was also a tier lower than the D700.

The D700 has a better build quality, but the D600 has arguably better image quality and it shoots video. The choice is yours.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 04:42:03 No.2604819
guys, look what my mom found and gave me :3
it even smells old
>no, it's not a k1000

Anonymous 2015-06-13 04:55:22 No.2604824

My Nikon D70 is no longer turning on
It doesn't charge anymore from the USB connection to the computer or through a converter into an outlet.
It doesn't even have any kind of a display anymore, not even viewfinder, nothing.

What can I do to fix it? What can cause this?

Anonymous 2015-06-13 05:06:06 No.2604830

Put it out of its misery, bro. That thing is eleven years old at this point.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 05:33:40 No.2604836
Can anyone identify this camera's model and give me a used-value with the kit lens, the usual fittings like a battery and a bag?

Anonymous 2015-06-13 05:41:41 No.2604837
back of it. I think it's a 500D? Is that a good starter camera? I heard there was a point around 2006-7 where the sensors improved massively but I don't know if this is beyond the jump

Anonymous 2015-06-13 05:57:40 No.2604841
>hipster tax
we all pay that for film now bro
I bet m3's would be $600us by now

Anonymous 2015-06-13 06:01:11 No.2604842
I didn't know they make leather jackets in salt and pepper print

Anonymous 2015-06-13 06:05:32 No.2604844
You trollin?

Anonymous 2015-06-13 06:06:51 No.2604845
No. I can't see the model number and the seller is asleep

Anonymous 2015-06-13 06:23:35 No.2604850
I wanted to get my Minolta lenses onto my Canon system, have only seen
>adapters with glass to allow infinity focus, add magnification, cut 1 stop
>adapters without glass that act like macro tubes

In this youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fujVCCTDgi0 this guy has an adapter that sits around the Minolta lens mount, apparently reducing the flange distance by that 0.5mm and achieving infinity focus without glass between camera and lens.

Has anyone seen a place to buy this adapter? There's no branding on the thing so I figured it might be custom made, but I thought I'd ask. I messaged the guy but no responses yet.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 06:30:36 No.2604853
Oh thought it was yours that you found in somewhere and were too autistic to look at the numbers under the lens

I dunno man all those entry levels things look the same to me, just don't spend anymore than like 200 on it. look on keh first, their prices typically go for what the street price on eBay is

Anonymous 2015-06-13 06:32:55 No.2604854
And yes by the way it's good. Long as a camera has an m,a,s,and p mode on it that's all you need

Anonymous 2015-06-13 06:34:20 No.2604855
It's listed at £130 which is a little under $200 (and stuff is usually more expensive here anyway). I don't know if I should start with this or get something smaller and easier. The fact that it comes with a bag, some filters and charger etc. makes it pretty attractive to me.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 06:47:42 No.2604861
I said "for like" as in a rounding off. Some are even cheaper. These entry level cams are natorious for being beaters, people will usually use them for about 5000 shutters then either hock them for about 200 or keep it as a back up body. They're typically thrown into the back of a car or a purse and just left there for when they go to the beach and leave it out of the bag and let it lay in the sand. And on top of that you're buying it on eBay.
Pay 20 Euro more or what ever the fuck you're using and go to keh, adorama or b&h and get something for either the same price or cheaper with a warrenty and insured shipping (most eBay sellers will charge the max for shipping then skimp you and it'll take like months to get there and half the box will be missing)

Sorry for the run on I'm drunk af right now haha

Anonymous 2015-06-13 06:53:32 No.2604862
I'm buying it in person off of gumtree - on ebay they are much more expensive. I'll probably get it since if I don't like it I'm sure I'll get nearly all my money back

Anonymous 2015-06-13 06:56:37 No.2604863
Oh ok good luck then, still haggle though. Ask him stuff like what I've said and ask him to bring a lens with him so you can make sure that the focusing screen isn't fucked or the mirror isn't all jacked

Anonymous 2015-06-13 06:57:59 No.2604864
It comes with kit lens. What are the quick checks I can do and what should I be asking with regards to condition e.g. shutter count?

Anonymous 2015-06-13 07:11:50 No.2604866
Honestly don't worry about asking the shutter count, it's just something some repair people can tell and it's like the pedometer on a car; you can find a great deal on a low mileage car but if it's an 2012 Ford from Florida I can guess it has some water damage. Just run through the menus and make sure that every button does something at some point. Make sure that the battery charges, the lens mounts fine (not too much play), auto focus', you can hear the shutter, and WRITES TO A MEMORY CARD. bring one with you if you have to, you can get a shitty one at a drug store for probably 10 bucks. You want an "sd" card, but not from Sony as those are most likely the proprietary ones special for their cameras. Good luck that's actually a good price for it with a kit lens

Anonymous 2015-06-13 07:16:52 No.2604867
K thanks. Just been updated and informed it's a rebel XS (called 1000D here) which is actually a pretty cheapo camera so I'll learn more before buying since it's being sold at market price.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 07:22:47 No.2604868
Whoo that shits old, I'd try to low ball him to 80 but don't budge past 120. Remember that the cosmetics can show how much care was put into it, if it's chipped and scratched or the rubber is all worm out it's "ugly" and you should be paying the ugly price, not the first bid he shows you on eBay

Anonymous 2015-06-13 07:23:53 No.2604869
I'm looking for something newer and better now.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 07:25:24 No.2604870
Whoop I was thinking of a different camera, change that to 160-200

Anonymous 2015-06-13 07:28:46 No.2604872
Na this is what you need starting out, that said I do recromend shopping more. Lurk here some more you'll pick up the basics of how to shop. Just budget at least $300 and then make sure you budget another $50 at the least for a tripod as you next purchase. Have fun bro this is an expensive, but rewarding and possibly lucrative hobby

Anonymous 2015-06-13 07:43:24 No.2604874
Pentax K-50, K-30 or K-5II
nuff said

Anonymous 2015-06-13 08:33:17 No.2604883
no swivel screen tho. That's what's killin me

Anonymous 2015-06-13 08:51:00 No.2604888
i'll make whatever thread i want.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 08:52:05 No.2604889

Anonymous 2015-06-13 08:53:05 No.2604891
nigga probably stole it.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 08:54:44 No.2604892
get a7r ii + adapter.
what's the problem?

Anonymous 2015-06-13 09:01:07 No.2604894
>no swivel screen
Are you retarded? I've been taking photos for years and I never needed one.
I bet you buy your fridge for the color.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 09:09:18 No.2604900
that analogy made no sense

I take video at dj gigs and stuff, the camera is above my head and I need to see what im shooting.

I found a k-30 with the kit lens and 3300 clicks for $300 on craigslist though, buy?

Anonymous 2015-06-13 09:15:01 No.2604903
That's going price, point of eBay or any other non retail site is to get steep deals, not save 20 bucks

Anonymous 2015-06-13 09:20:02 No.2604904
>dj gigs
I refuse to help you any further

Anonymous 2015-06-13 09:20:37 No.2604905
going price for just the body is $300

Free lens

Anonymous 2015-06-13 09:22:05 No.2604906
nigga you werent helping anyone from the start

Anonymous 2015-06-13 09:28:01 No.2604909
He said he wanted something better than the rabal turdbucket.
I suggested models that are better.
He said the lack of swivel screen is bad.
Maybe he is better off with the turdbucket.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 10:01:43 No.2604920
Buy an NX500 or an a6000, if you have the cash the NX1 or an a7. Great cameras, which have tilt-screens

Anonymous 2015-06-13 10:20:28 No.2604931
Much better, use your phone, you can swivel it in any way you want

Anonymous 2015-06-13 11:53:10 No.2604955
Canonfag here; can't decide between buying a 5D3 or waiting for the 5D4 (and the 6D2) to come out
In your opinion, when will the 5D3's price drop?

Anonymous 2015-06-13 12:41:26 No.2604974
Has anyone fried overseas electronics when they adapted it to their own countries power outlets? I bought a film scanner from america and not quite sure how it will fare with my New Zealand plugs.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 12:58:26 No.2604976
Just use a US-NZ adapter. You'll be fine.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 13:21:54 No.2604981
I'm scared though

Anonymous 2015-06-13 13:35:12 No.2604992
There are adapters just for this kind of use. Some of them have switchable inverters. Just look for them in your local equivalent of radio shack and home depot.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 13:38:03 No.2604996
What does this look like? Hazing, fungus or coating separation? Is it salvageable?

Anonymous 2015-06-13 13:39:13 No.2604997
Another shot

Anonymous 2015-06-13 14:13:15 No.2605007
Any bro can recommend a entry level camera?. I will acquire glass later on also. Considering that:
I am still learning and okay with a future upgrade.
Flexible on budget.
80% of my photos would be landscapes and street photography.
I will be downsize all my images to less than 2 MB for online use.

I was almost decided to get the Sony a6000 or a7, but having doubts now...

Anonymous 2015-06-13 14:17:35 No.2605010
Looks like paint gun overspray. I'm sure that it ISN'T, but since I don't know what it actually is, yeah. over-spray.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 14:35:16 No.2605017
Its not a leather jacket. It literally is a cloth jacket in salt and pepper print.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 14:52:43 No.2605028
a6000 has horrible noise pattern.
I'd recommend Pentax K-50 or K-5II DSLR for entry, you get a lot more camera for your money including rugged metal body, weather sealing, pentaprism, in-body stabilization and seamless integration for cheap old manual lens.
Of course it is bigger than a mirrorless but for entry level you don't need anything to specialize for. Later you can switch for a system better suited for your needs, or just stay with the Pentax ecosystem.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 14:54:38 No.2605030
Buy if the kit lens is the DA WR. If it's not WR, don't buy.

What has you doubting an A6000? I mean, aside from the lack of native lenses. You could look at the Fuji XE2, which is similar to the A6000 but has plenty of native glass.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 14:58:41 No.2605033
but its my baby!

Anonymous 2015-06-13 15:25:25 No.2605048
I'm upgrading from a D3300 to a D750

Would you guys recommend getting a 50mm 1.4 or the 16-35mm f4? Don't want to throw too much cash about so I have to pick one

Anonymous 2015-06-13 15:29:26 No.2605052
>Recommending pentax
Go Nikon/Canon

Anonymous 2015-06-13 15:30:03 No.2605053
Which lenses you already own will strongly determine which lens is a better buy.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 15:31:09 No.2605056
>you are better off with a plastic shit body, inaccurate and dark pentamirror for more money
Yeah, no shit faglord

Anonymous 2015-06-13 15:32:15 No.2605058
Let's talk about lens selection

Anonymous 2015-06-13 15:38:31 No.2605065
Go M4/3. Best lenses. Best bodies. Best prices.

God tier.

Patrician levels.

The Master Race.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 15:43:07 No.2605068
Okay, list me any lens for Canon and Nikon according to this:
One lens for wide, around 20-28mm, prime, f/2.8 or better
One lens for standard, around 35-50mm, prime, f/2.8 or better
One telephoto lens, around 70-200mm or longer, f/4 or better, in case of 300mm or longer f/5.6 is okay
All for less than $300

Anonymous 2015-06-13 15:55:48 No.2605073
First, really great job on consistently posting pictures to backup claims about M4/3, I'm less dismissive of it because of you. But the loss of detail is very apparent here in the clothes and skin. It would look better on FF.
>Even if that shot was taken at f/1.2 on full frame, the subject if far enough away that you will still clearly make out the background
I don't think anyone is saying the background would be blurred into being unrecognizable but it'd be blurred to the point of drawing the eyes towards the subject, which is quite useful.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 16:08:38 No.2605078
I'm interested in getting into making greyscale images in stead of color images. I'm noticing that there are a lot of methods of converting data from a bayer raw file to a monochromatic image. Which do you think would be the closest to using a true monochrome digital camera? Should I be setting the white balance correctly, and then converting my channels to layers and averaging them? I imagine a photoshop action for that would be easy to make.

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Anonymous 2015-06-13 16:20:29 No.2605089
where's the pentax 70-200mm f4 for less than $300?

Anonymous 2015-06-13 16:30:08 No.2605100
He must either be talking about the 50-200 4-5.6 or the 55-300 4-5.8, both of which technically don't fall into his criteria.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 16:32:35 No.2605104
Sigma 400mm f/5.6 MF, Tokina 400mmf/5.6 AF, Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Macro, each between $100-$200
Add a Pentacon 28mm and a Helios 44M each $15-$50
You have a beginner lens spectrum good for landscape, portraiture, wildlife and astro for $300 that works with metering and focus assist OOB or with a simple adapter.
Add it to a $300 body and you have a full set you can start with.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 16:36:46 No.2605107
Wait, so by full set, you mean nothing wider than 42mm equivalent. That doesn't sound anything remotely like a full set to me.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 16:41:40 No.2605110
Full set to start with. With this set a beginner can start taking all kinds of photos and leaves room for later, if he needs wider, there is the option to do so.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 16:48:26 No.2605117
As someone who has a 28mm prime on a Pentax DSLR, it's not fun, and it's not flexible. Having nothing wider than 28mm on APS-C is tightly restricting and difficult to work with even at an early stage. Let alone a manual focus one with the confusing and largely nonfunctional focus confirm system that Pentax uses. I would say to go for an 18-55 over a 28mm manual focus lens any day of the week for any reason. The only time a 28mm prime makes sense on an APS-C camera is if you're moving from a 45mm point and shoot rangefinder or a film Pentax with the 43mm and you find yourself particular attached to that focal length while simultaneously needing to easily set hyperfocal.

I've had this type of 28mm & AF telezoom setup and it does /not/ work out the way you'd think it would.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 17:00:59 No.2605123
Are you suggesting maybe that a beginner should spend $500-$700 for a single lens, or $2000-$5000 for a telephoto/telezoom? The damn newbie is not even sure what he wants to photograph, let alone what gear to use!
My suggestion was about a good spectrum of focal lengths, yet I was the only one to list anything. I'm still waiting though

Anonymous 2015-06-13 17:05:55 No.2605124
An 18-55 and 70-300 would be fine. If you're tight on money, get a past generation body.
$200 body plus $99 kit lens and $99 tele lens would be a totally fine beginner setup. Why you go to ridiculous lengths for those mediocre-to-bad primes I don't understand. If you want fast apertures as a beginner, Pentax has a 35mm f/2.4 and a 50mm f/1.8, both of which are full frame in case you ever move up, and both of which are less than $150.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 17:11:17 No.2605126
>Helios 44
Haha, no.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 18:04:51 No.2605150
1 ) what do you shoot ?
2) Do you have a FX lens already ?

Anonymous 2015-06-13 18:06:15 No.2605151
But then you get the IQ of a canon :/

Anonymous 2015-06-13 18:18:28 No.2605152
If you want it to look like it would straight out of a monochrome sensor (or as close as you can), just set the tint/color temperature to the middle and desaturate.
The contrast will be pretty low.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 18:27:53 No.2605156
Set it to the middle relative to what? Different raw converters have different high and low max settings for kelvin

Anonymous 2015-06-13 18:40:16 No.2605162
I'm going to be making music videos for some artists and I've been renting a 70d from my school for the past year to record at shows. What's the best body I can get for $400 - $450 used that does video, but also photos. I was thinking a canon t4i with magic lantern, but it kinda sucks compared to other cameras like the k30. I'd only be buying for the ML software.

I was also thinking going m4/3 for lens prices and stuff like that, something like a g6 or olympus em5.

My life is becoming 3 letter acronyms and im starting to hate cameras, pls help. College student so not that much $$ to spend

Anonymous 2015-06-13 19:02:50 No.2605167
That's a 400d

Anonymous 2015-06-13 20:50:26 No.2605216
If you're looking to get into film photography for just the enjoyment of it (pretty much one of the only reasons to still use it), I can tell you what I got back when I was in your place and what I've learned.
Minolta camera's are super cheap and so are the lenses, they're a lot of fun to shoot with and you can pick up a couple different focal length primes & have a lot of fun with them. My first Minolta was a x-370, its very basic and didn't give me any room to grow. Later I got an x-700 and, as skeptical as I'm sure most will be, it's one of the most fun and comfortable camera's I've ever used. A lot of people will complain about battery powered camera's but the batteries in old film camera's last so long + if you just carry one spare pair you'll be completely fine for a long time. If you're interested in Minolta I can give you exact lens recommendations for your kit.
Another I've loved a lot is the Olympus om series, the om-2 is my go to camera when I want a small, great performing SLR. A lot of people love the om-1 because of the extra bit of analog parts, but either one will be very enjoyable to use and last for a long time with little/no care. Lense by Olympus were called zuiko and they're all incredibly compact with great optics. The standard starter lenses for om camera's is pretty much the 50mm 1.8 or 1.4, personally I think the 1.8 is a little sharper but if you want that extra bit of low light you may want to consider the 1.4, I have a 35mm 2.8 which is also a lot of fun to use but not incredible as a lens. The 85mm zuiko lenses are pretty legendary if I remember correctly but I've never gotten to use one. Some Olympus stuff can get a little "pricey" (an excellent condition lens and camera can be had for ~$150USD) but after you shoot with one you'll definitely be glad you did.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 20:51:24 No.2605219
In 2015 is the epl5 still a decent camera for a first mirrorless? Will be keeping my d90 for now.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 20:52:05 No.2605220
Hope this helped, I'll check back later to see if you replied with any questions, keep in mind this is almost all information from someone who was in your spot about 2-3 years ago, not a "pro", just someone who really enjoys photography.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 21:31:40 No.2605234
Dear gear-/p/, I discovered a curious phenomenon. I have an old Vivitar 2x teleconverter, matched for some 70-150mm lens. I got it to use it for my 220mm lens but at the time of purchased I didn't know what matched means. It was awful, the sharpest focusing looked like the lens was misaligned, it was a soft and blurry mess.
So I got a 400mm lens but out of curiosity tried it out with the teleconverter.
It fucking works! Sharp as fuck, perfectly usable focusing, everything is as it should be.
Why it didn't work with the 220mm lens is beyond me. Maybe the problems are still there, but my Howitzer telephoto is so good it doesn't show up.
Is it possible for a teleconverter to magically sharpen a lens image it wasn't matched for?

Anonymous 2015-06-13 22:46:40 No.2605305
>Had $600 in the bank
>Buy a camera off of ebay for $550
>Email saying thank you for your purchase blah blah blah
>2 more emails come later on, one again saying that they've took the money, the other saying the item has been dispatched
>2 days later
>Went to the bank to get my $50 out
>$600 in the bank

Am I about to get a free camera or am I just retarded?

Anonymous 2015-06-13 22:51:15 No.2605307
pretty sure ebay doesnt send the cash until it's confirmed that the package has been delivered to your door.

most likely retarded

Anonymous 2015-06-13 22:52:15 No.2605308
never mind im retarded

you got it for free, the person sending it was retarded and sent before the real confirmation

Anonymous 2015-06-13 22:54:37 No.2605310

I don't actually have it yet, but according to the tracking, it's on its way and should be here on Monday.

I've used ebay quite a bit and I've always been under the impression that once the item gets sent out, it means they've took the money.
I don't think I've ever had a single situation where it's been delivered, then the money is taken out.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 22:56:54 No.2605311
>stupid cheap "Nikola" 1200-2500mm lens.
what is this crap? sort of want to try it to take some bird shots

Anonymous 2015-06-13 23:03:03 No.2605314
Looks more like really bad dust. I've cleaned a few lenses that look like that and some alcohol wipes it right off.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 23:05:38 No.2605320
err, can't find any info on this? link?

Anonymous 2015-06-13 23:09:22 No.2605325
For me paypal always bills me much later when I get something on ebay. Usually like a week or two. The transaction says it's gone through, but I think how it works is paypal essentially fronts the money, then they take it from your bank on a particular date.

Anonymous 2015-06-13 23:21:15 No.2605331
Untraditional? Maybe. Practical? I think so. Why have the shutter dial on top of the camera, fuck that unnecessary hand movement

Anonymous 2015-06-13 23:32:47 No.2605337
I checked my paypal account as well as the "view paypal transaction" tab on ebay and it seems to list the order as "completed".

Can I celebrate now or is there still a chance I won't get it for free?

Anonymous 2015-06-13 23:36:02 No.2605339
Sorry about the mobile link, but I'm in bed http://m.ebay.com/itm/221224181123?nav=SEARCH

Anonymous 2015-06-14 00:19:15 No.2605363
I couldn't say one way or the other, but I just checked my most recent ebay transaction. I confirmed the order and paid on the 17th of May, Paypal sent me a warning on the 27th saying that they're gonna bill me soon, and then I got an email from Paypal on the 31st of May saying that they've requested the money from my bank and that it'll take three days to be debited. The email was titled something like "We're processing the payment for your purchase".

That was bang on two weeks from the time I hit submit on the payment through paypal on ebay, to when the money came out of my bank account. Keep an eye out, you don't want to get overdrawn.

Anonymous 2015-06-14 00:24:01 No.2605366
Sony a7II or Fuji X-T1?

Looking to upgrade from t4i.

Anonymous 2015-06-14 01:09:34 No.2605382
shot with my friends 6d on a 70-200 2.8

my god it was amazing

Anonymous 2015-06-14 01:16:21 No.2605388
Why is /p/ trying to trick people into buying the Pentax K-50? The image quality from it is ass compared to anything near its price range.

Anonymous 2015-06-14 01:28:28 No.2605392
point to a camera, under $300, that is comparable to the K-50

Anonymous 2015-06-14 01:29:42 No.2605393
I can point to one that is slightly above the K-50's price that is much better.
The A6000.

Anonymous 2015-06-14 01:33:31 No.2605394
Doesn't the K50 have the great K5 sensor? And weather sealing? And a better AF system than the K5? And the same or better IBIS? That seems like a lot of camera for $300. (Disclaimer: Not that I would buy one for myself)

If by slightly you mean exactly double, sure.

Anonymous 2015-06-14 01:40:46 No.2605397
All that weather sealing doesn't save it from having subpar image quality.
The A6000 on the other hand is crisp and sharp.
Oh and body only for an A6000 can be had for $350, compared to the $300 of the K-50.
No idea where you're getting double from.

Anonymous 2015-06-14 01:51:21 No.2605400
>All that weather sealing doesn't save it from having subpar image quality.
And all the image quality in the world doesn't save the A6000 from dying on impact with mild splashes. Which is why you choose the Pentax if you need the WR and a Nikon or Sony if you dont - The way it's always been.
>The A6000 on the other hand is crisp and sharp.
They're both from the same line of Sony sensors and perform nearly the same at 1:1, with the only difference being a mild increase in MP.
>Oh and body only for an A6000 can be had for $350, compared to the $300 of the K-50.
And the K50 can be hand for $150-200 in the same way.
>No idea where you're getting double from.
Current prices NIB vs NIB and used vs used.

Anonymous 2015-06-14 02:13:32 No.2605410
I'm looking to get into FF on a budget. Should I get a D700 or a7? The D700 is like seven years old now, and it's only got 12 MP. The a7 seems like it would be kinda uncomfortable, though. Anyone have anything to say about this?

Anonymous 2015-06-14 02:17:53 No.2605414
my friend (one above who shoots 6d) said he tried out an a7 recently and only had good things to say about it

of course, he's a video fag

Anonymous 2015-06-14 03:52:49 No.2605437
Im having a real hard time picking a versatile camera. Basically the only camera I own is a coolpix l820 (parents bought it), but I have worked with a d3100 from school. I just wanna take photos for fun, and don't know what to use

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