[  3  /  a  /  adv  /  an  /  c  /  cgl  /  ck  /  cm  /  co  /  diy  /  fa  /  fit  /  g  /  i  /  ic  /  jp  /  k  /  lit  /  m  /  mlp  /  mu  /  n  /  o  /  p  /  po  /  q  /  sci  /  sp  /  tg  /  toy  /  trv  /  tv  /  v  /  vg  /  vp  /  w  /  wg  /  wsg  /  x  ]

/sci/ Science & Math

Warning: All the content of this page originally come from 4chan.org. This is only a partial archive made to avoid destruction. Some posts and images may be missing. All the messages below have been posted by anonymous users and we do not guarantee any truth of what they said.
For any illegal content, please contact me so that I can immediatly destroy it!

Anonymous 2014-10-30 05:20:16 No.6844844

[Missing image file: ]

Is post-scarcity attainable within our lifetimes?


>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 05:25:00 No.6844848
>>6844844
No.

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 05:28:39 No.6844855
>>6844844
Theoretically, yes. Realistically, fuck no.

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 05:52:26 No.6844886
>>6844844
Not within our lifetimes but maybe within a few centuries.

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 05:58:03 No.6844897
>>6844844
No. Learn the definition of scarcity first.

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 06:00:27 No.6844906
Whenever we get closer to it, the population grows as much as it can. I don't think we will ever (unfortunately) be able to limit reproduction significantly.

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 06:06:59 No.6844912
Some things are already post-scarcity, but unfortunately none of the important things are.

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 09:58:50 No.6845090
>>6844912
Once something is post scarcity, can it even be important anymore?

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 10:04:51 No.6845092
>>6844844
Possibly, depending on the development of nanotechnology.

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 10:26:20 No.6845099
>>6844906
>android body upgrades become available
>gather group of fellow androids
>set off to the stars with a set of industrial spaceships
>find a nice star system, settle down, build a magnificently beautiful ringworld
>no need for population control because everyone is a robot
>those who desire a traditional family life with offspring can jack into the local ring computer and simulate it without taking up much resources or space
>utopia

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 10:32:05 No.6845106
>>6844912
>Some things are already post-scarcity, but unfortunately none of the important things are.

Clean water is not important? Information is not important?

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 10:41:51 No.6845113
>>6845099
Sounds pretty boring, though. If people really wanted utopia we would have it by now

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 11:00:22 No.6845123
>>6845113
>If people really wanted utopia we would have it by now
People want a lot of things, but a lot of people fuck it up for everyone else.

As for boring, you'd be free to leave any time you like and return as you please - who would stop you building a zippy lil' starship to go explore the universe?

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 11:08:26 No.6845129
>>6844844
artificial scarcity is already being created in places where we are post scarcity, so no

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 11:09:27 No.6845130
>>6845106
clean water is not post scarcity

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 11:16:48 No.6845136
>>6845130
>clean water is not post scarcity
Less than 200Tb/s download speeds is not post scarcity.

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 11:24:37 No.6845142
>>6844844
No. We would need another world war to happen before anything like this to is remotely attainable.

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 11:45:24 No.6845166
>>6844844
It is technically possible but it is not compatible with human nature.

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 11:57:26 No.6845184
>>6845106
Yes it is important to almost everyone. Therefore there is money to be made and power to be had in the endeavour of restricting access to it...

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 12:00:53 No.6845191
>>6845092
Yes because of quantum mechanics and string theory.

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 13:02:02 No.6845264
>>6845106
health care is post-scarcity, but not for Amerifats because of hear disease and diabetus

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 13:06:24 No.6845271
>>6845123
Yup.

Whether it's trying to get political support for a cause or trying to get 4chan to do anything other than shitpost, there'll always be someone to come along and fuck it all up for everyone.

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 15:08:25 No.6845367
>>6845191
Are you retarded? QM as well as nanotechnology is real... unlike string theory

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 15:45:55 No.6845412
>>6844844
>Is post-scarcity attainable within our lifetimes?

It will never be obtained. You've been punch-drunk on petroleum for decades, so that you're now demented enough to speculate that such a impossible thing can even exist.

And if dirt-cheap energy sources could somehow continue to exist in vast quantities, how are you going to stop the predatory capitalist bastards from taking the vast majority of resources and then sitting on them? THAT'S ALL WE DO, as Humans. Human nature alone dictates that post-scarcity will never arrive. If one man can command the wealth of entire nations today, then he will continue to do so in the PS scenario.

> today, rich man makes you labor for 2080 hours every year so that you can have a house, eat food, and pay taxes
> in PS future, rich man makes you labor for 2080 hours every year so that you can have a house, eat food, and pay taxes

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 18:07:18 No.6845598
If ebola reduce population by 50%, we can have it in a few years!

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 18:25:58 No.6845632
>>6845412
>in PS future, rich man makes you labor for 2080 hours every year so that you can have a house, eat food, and pay taxes
Do you understand what scarcity means?

By definition, there's no such thing as a rich man in a fully PS society.

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 18:38:23 No.6845662
>>6844844
No, because standards of living will continually increase as technology increases.

If you are talking about the bare minimums of food, water, and shelter, then yes. It's probably already achievable with today's technology.
The problem is, no one will be satisfied with that.

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 18:45:19 No.6845677
>>6844844
Post-scarcity is a Socialist pipedream. We live in a universe in constant flux. We are also naturally flawed and unforgivably stupid creatures. In short, we are just too dumb to coordinate something like a post-scarcity economy. Further, though from a moral standpoint a post-scarcity economy seems the right thing to do, it would be catastrophic from an evolutionary point of view, since the stupid and weak would then have the means to multiply and dumb down our genes. The universe is a cold, impartial and highly destructive place. Boohoo, get over it lib

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 18:55:53 No.6845696
>>6844844

We don't need post-scarcity, but rather full-on automation.

That isn't going to happen anytime soon, because ludates and "muh robot uprising".

>>
Anonymous 2014-10-30 18:59:42 No.6845699
Can we make stuff from nothing? I think that answers your question OP







[  3  /  a  /  adv  /  an  /  c  /  cgl  /  ck  /  cm  /  co  /  diy  /  fa  /  fit  /  g  /  i  /  ic  /  jp  /  k  /  lit  /  m  /  mlp  /  mu  /  n  /  o  /  p  /  po  /  q  /  sci  /  sp  /  tg  /  toy  /  trv  /  tv  /  v  /  vg  /  vp  /  w  /  wg  /  wsg  /  x  ]

Contact me | All the content on this website come from 4chan.org. All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.

Dofus quêtes

Page loaded in 0.014948 seconds.