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Anonymous 2012-10-25 04:24:03 No.16979698

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Old thread: >>16898625

Want to play with bros but you are already in a clan or you don't want to join the /vg/ clans? Then join the /vg/ channel!

WoT wiki. Search in this before asking stupid questions:
>http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Main_Page

Shitty outdated pastebin, read this if you're new:
>http://pastebin.com/esEnTbqx

Pastebin with mods and misc resources:
>http://pastebin.com/7T1Emiz9

Euro clan and steam group:
>http://worldoftanks.eu/community/clans/500011239-NOFUN/
>http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vgWoTEU

US clan and comms:
>http://worldoftanks.com/community/clans/1000004891-THIRD/
>mumble: tofusaur.us on default port
>IRC: #THIRD on Rizon

Tank camo tables:
>http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/147120-075-tank-camouflage-tables/

Latest MM chart:
>http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/images/7/77/MatchmakingChart.png

WoT statistics, program that keeps track of various statistics such as efficiency, individual tank stats etc:
>http://www.saais.co.za/

Other interesting shit:
http://pastebin.com/utc6UqHf
SerB's wisdom. Plenty of it, even if most of the info contained in it is outdated.

The first post of a fellow WG dev: http://archive.foolz.us/vg/thread/16035557/#q16079707
His posts he made while namefagging: http://archive.foolz.us/vg/search/username/Insider-kun/order/asc/page/1/


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Anonymous 2012-10-25 04:25:03 No.16979753
>not a fucking jew image in the OP
based OP

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 04:26:04 No.16979808
I did my first TC today with a rebought KV-1S. Farming free wins is pretty cool.

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OP 2012-10-25 04:27:18 No.16979879

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>>16979753
So based

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 04:27:37 No.16979891
>>16979808
cant farm ER

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 04:28:49 No.16979950
>>16979808
I have a 68% win rate on mine, shit is ridiculous.

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OP 2012-10-25 04:29:20 No.16979979

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Stolen Brit tonk time.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 04:30:18 No.16980026

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first good tank time

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 04:32:43 No.16980162

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>>16979950
You don't know shit about tanking until you run a 3 man KV-sport rape squad

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 04:33:07 No.16980178
>>16979950
The commander of the company I was in had an 80% ratio on his 1S. That was why I picked the company in the first place. Now my KV-1S ratio is 59% instead of 58! People wanted a break after I'd played 4 games, but apparently they won 14 and lost 2 that night.

>>16979891
You actually can farm ER in TC because you tend to sit on the cap a fair bit.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 04:35:45 No.16980304
>>16980178
Way way back I remember joining a company with a guy who had free xp elited an M18 and only used it in one long string of company battles. He had a 97% winrate.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 04:43:31 No.16980697
>>16980304
I saw some screenshots of that shit from the RU server. Guy with like an 84% overall winrate and 90%+ winrate on his 1390, etc. I just never thought such bad players would queue up to get smashed over and over in an organized fashion. So much less effort to just click the battle button at top to achieve the same result.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 04:44:47 No.16980759
how many garage slots does everyone have?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 04:49:12 No.16980961
>>16980759
21

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 04:50:03 No.16981007
>>16980759
22, 18 of them full

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 04:50:32 No.16981037
>>16980759
16 somehow

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 04:52:46 No.16981169
>>16980759
oh man hell if I know anymore.

Probably about 50, I would guess 30 or so are filled.

Dat promo code abuse man.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 04:53:35 No.16981230
>>16980759
13. Not nearly enough, should've done more of the promo events.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 04:57:31 No.16981459
Gun Rammer, Vents, and Spall Liner on the IS-3, good or bad?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:01:50 No.16981675
>>16980759

Barely scraping by with just 10, I'm feeling the pain but I'm going to buy a bunch when they're on sale again.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:02:24 No.16981702
>>16975849
>>16976752
All the codes are gone now.

Too bad, I was going to grab a few.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:02:31 No.16981707
>>16981459
Spall liner? I think you meant vertical stabilizer.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:04:25 No.16981794
>>16981707
What will I do with the controlled impact I inherited from my IS crew then.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:05:27 No.16981843
>>16981794
Change it nigger.

What kind of question is that?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:05:28 No.16981845
>>16981459
>spall liner
>increase protection from HE and ramming by 15% of the armor value of the tank
>% increase

why do people not understand what this means? it does fucking nothing for low armor values.

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OP 2012-10-25 05:05:36 No.16981858

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>>16981794
>controlled impact

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:06:31 No.16981916
>>16981843
But all dose exps

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:08:16 No.16982007
>>16981916
then use jew golds

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:09:48 No.16982096
Where can I play world of warplanes

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:10:04 No.16982106
>>16981916
Spend the dosh to change it to something more useful.

It's much better to spend the dosh and lose a few % and have something worth using.

Also, to avoid this in the future if you are going to keep up-swapping crews you should build them for the IS-7 instead.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:11:09 No.16982163
>>16982096
In my anus. Reach in for the joystick and move it around yeah?

Beta key first tho pls.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:15:58 No.16982424
>>16981702
shit, I wanted some too

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:18:30 No.16982539
>>16981794
>Controlled Impact in the IS series

I don't think you're picking the right skills.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:24:58 No.16982872

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>go uphill
>see an tank
>shoot it
>goes to cover
>second tank
>shoot it
>cover
>decide to move up
>see this
What do?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:28:33 No.16983081

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>>16980759
Six.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:32:33 No.16983305

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>>16980759
5

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:36:09 No.16983472
>>16983305
But... How is that even possible? Don't you start with six?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:38:48 No.16983594
Will we get a new free garage slot with the Brit tanks coming in?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:40:05 No.16983663
>>16983594
They gave us one when French tanks came out so I don't see why they wouldn't this time.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:40:11 No.16983667
>>16983594
God I hope so. My garage is getting cramped.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:43:22 No.16983832
>>16980759
7

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:48:29 No.16984073

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>>16983885

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:50:50 No.16984189
>>16983885
Please...
Just... no...
PLEASE ;_;

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:53:02 No.16984317

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>>16983472

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:54:12 No.16984368
>>16984317
What is this sorcery.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:54:48 No.16984398

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>>16984189

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:55:00 No.16984408
>>16984317
>Didn't do the tutorial

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OP 2012-10-25 05:55:22 No.16984426

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>>16984317
>>16982872
>blacking out name
Let us laugh at you.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:55:57 No.16984452
>>16984408
Waht?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:56:38 No.16984486
>>16984426
let me send my elite russian hacker team to rape your everything

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:57:42 No.16984537
>>16984452
You get a free tier 3 premium if you do the tutorial. Comes with a garage slot.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 05:57:45 No.16984539
>>16984317
>hiding your name

YOU BEST HIDE SON BEFORE I DESTOY YO LITTLE PINK ASS

IM COMIN FOR YA

HIDE MOTHERFUCKER HHHHHIIIIIIDEEEEEE

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:00:37 No.16984662
>>16984537
didn't they take that out?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:01:04 No.16984684
>>16982872
Sit tight and wait for your arty to finish them.
Or, if you dont have arty, just wait till your own guys come for help.
OR if you'r allies are starter derps, then you might as well sit back, relax and enjoy cozy afternoon, as that battle is going to take at least 15 mins.
Because, after all "Nee! There is a loltractor behind that rock! It's going to kill us all! Lets not move at all and stay on cover!".

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:01:35 No.16984716
>>16984537
I don't recall ever doing a tutorial and I'm certain I never had a tier III premium, but I have 6 slots. What is this sorcery? How is the tutorial accessed?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:08:07 No.16985001
>>16984662
When do you think they did that ?
If anything, I did it a month ago and still got the M3 Lee.

>>16984716
Pretty sure you can reactivate the tutorial in the settings or something.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:08:45 No.16985034
>>16984662
>>16984716

Some other guy here, I started again like a week ago and it was there, free Russian M3 Stuart.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:15:21 No.16985342
>>16985001
Erh yeah, why'd I say M3 Lee, it's a M3 Stuart.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:18:08 No.16985470
so which brit line

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:23:55 No.16985709

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>>16985470
>brit line

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:24:03 No.16985712
>>16985470
As for now, if everything doesn't change after 8.1 comes out officially, I'd say if you want fun in the grind, you should take the med line.
But if you just want your top-tier tank to be imbalance as fuck, Heavy.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:26:13 No.16985802
>>16985470
I'm gunna go both.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:26:18 No.16985808
>>16985470
>Not grinding all of them.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:30:18 No.16985985
>>16985802
>>16985808
no free slots

>>16985712
medium it is

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:46:30 No.16986658
>>16985001
How the fuck do I start the tutorial?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:51:18 No.16986853
>>16986658
New acount.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:53:24 No.16986952

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Left: T34 | Right: E-75/4502P/Maus/E-100

Explain how this is "balanced". Please. Try to justify why the $50 tank has a better cannon at tier 8 than the tanks you earn do at tier 9 and 10. Keep in mind, the 12.8cm is also the best German heavy cannon, not just a similar one to that 120mm.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:55:10 No.16987029
>>16986952
The T34 has terrible armor.
You are not going to bounce shit with its hull.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:55:17 No.16987036
>>16986952
Because the tank chassis itself is shit. If it had anything weaker it'd be completely useless.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:57:06 No.16987124
>>16987029
At tier 8? Against tier 8s? If it's angled it will still bounce shots.

And it has 279 frontal turret armor + spaced mantlet, and an abnormally robust cupola, as well as -10 gun depression.

The 4502P won't bounce anything from tier 9s, and the E100 lower plate is weaker than the E-75's plus constant frontal fires.

So don't even say shit about armor.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:58:23 No.16987171
>>16987124
>T34
>Bouncing Tier 8 rounds
Haha, you're retarded.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:59:17 No.16987218
>>16987124
>VK4502P won't bounce anything from tier 9s
That's because you are showing your fucking front.
Sidescrape and see if even the Object will pen your side.
Nobody is dumb enough to shoot a clapper tank in the turret.
The T34's hull is a fucking joke. Even KV-1S penetrates it with ease. Hell, even the Easy 8.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:59:20 No.16987220
>>16987171
>T34
>Will still bounce tier 10 TD rounds off the turret
>Even the E-100 turret will get penned by them, so will the Maus as long as you don't hit the mantlet, which is MUCH smaller than the T34's

Haha, you haven't even played tier 8s have you?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 06:59:21 No.16987223
>>16986952
Shitty chassis.

At least the Germans have the highest alpha damage at the high tiers. And aside from their shityy lower glacis weakness, pretty good all around armor.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:00:25 No.16987276

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I dare you to find a better backstory than this.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:01:43 No.16987334
>>16987220
>>16987124
>>16986952
Did I say that the T34's gun is really temperamental?
Play it and you will see. Most of the shots deal less than 350 even on paper tank like AMX 50 120, while some jump up to 500 like on VK45A's side. It happened to me last night.
And the German gun always deal at least 350.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:03:03 No.16987386
>>16987218
> Even KV-1S penetrates it with ease. Hell, even the Easy 8.
But the KV-1S has 175 pen, and the E8 has 128.

The 1S will pen any tier 8 with ease, and the E8 can pen all but the Russian ones, I mean, it might have to aim for the lower plate of the Tiger 2, but it's not like the lower plate on the Tiger 2 is larger than the entire frontal hull of a T34 or anything.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:04:52 No.16987454
>>16987334
>THINKS DAMAGE IS BASED ON ARMOR OR LOCATION HIT.
>THINKS THAT BECAUSE IT'S GERMAN IT DOES OVER 350
Maybe because the minimum on the 12.8 is 368.

Please don't try arguing if you don't even understand the DAMAGE mechanics which most people learn at tier 1.

Random is random, it's not specific to hitting 20mm of armor or 200mm of armor.

Hahahaha you're retarded.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:04:56 No.16987458
>>16987386
Name one tank that T34 can fight that has less than 128 pen.
Oh wait... you can't!

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:07:04 No.16987534
>>16987124
>At tier 8? Against tier 8s? If it's angled it will still bounce shots.

It has the T29 chassis.

>And it has 279 frontal turret armor

No. Shoot the part around the mantlet and you'll see how easy it is to pen. I'm pretty sure it's the same turret as the stock T29 actually, except with an extra rear armor plate.

>The 4502P won't bounce anything from tier 9s

The 4502B has 264mm on the upper plate and 212mm on the lower plate. With a tiny amount of angling your upper plate will bounce T10 guns and your lower plate will bounce T8 guns.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:07:42 No.16987567
>>16987223
Oh I'm sorry, please explain why 50 average damage more loses 2RPM and 20 pen.

Because the IS-7's armor is horrible, right?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:08:49 No.16987617
>>16987454
Just play and you will see.
Almost everyone I know with a T34 cry so. Its damage is too temperamental. Way too many times it deals less than 350.
And I dare you to find any tier VIII German player that deal less than 350 more than once every 10 shots.
Also, face to face, the T34 can't win any tier IX. I'd say at tier VIII it will meet its match being Tiger II and IS-3, AMX with full drum will rape it. But at tier IX, it can't win shit.

>B-but it's a team game!
Its aim time will rape it at long range, and in short range, well, good luck surviving with shitty armor.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:09:31 No.16987647
>>16987534
So your argument is a $50 tank is better than tier 9-10 german tanks because "If you get shot you take damage"

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:10:35 No.16987701
>8.1 already live on RU
>Golden Joystick to be announced on Friday
>I'm working on getting the SU-152 before 8.1 for dat sweet, sweet HEAT action, and still have a t10 to buy and a t9 when joystick promotion goes up
>I'm going to need to work down the brit med line when 8.1 is up too

Holy shit WG.
I hate you. I hate you so much.
My credits. Why can't I keep them.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:11:18 No.16987732

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T29/T34 armor scheme

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:11:23 No.16987737
>>16987386

Tiger II lower plate is 170mm counting the slope. The only way an E8 would pen is if it was waaaaaay below the Tiger II or the Tiger II was on a hill above it.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:12:21 No.16987780
Guys.

Hey guys.

So golden joystick sale is hopefully coming up, gonna buy my E50 that I finally finished my gold-free grind on.

That said, if the circuit city codes get in and my clan wars payouts keep up I should have about 11k gold when the sale goes live.

Should I get a t34, and can I train my t92 crew in the t34?

Basically I want something to grind credits with besides my lowe and since it will be on sale for less than normal I was wondering if it is worth it.

ask any other questions if you think it will help with suggesting if i should get one.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:12:24 No.16987786
>>16987617
>And I dare you to find any tier VIII German player that deal less than 350 more than once every 10 shots.
Well, considering the MAX damage a tier 8 German tank can deal is 400, with a WHOPPING 23-48 pen less than the T34, your chance of hitting over 350 is what, 15%? So About 1/10 shots will be over 350 damage.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:15:16 No.16987906
>>16987647

No, I'm saying that you are clueless about armor values.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:17:40 No.16988017
>>16987906
And you don't understand pen/bounce mechanics.

The short 10.5, which is the best cannon the 4502A can mount (Another tier 8 heavy), can go as low as 150pen. A very, very slightly angled T34 beats that and will bounce it. As well, the short 10.5 is .37 to the T34's .35 accuracy. And 320 average damage to 400.

$50 premium tank is better than three tiers worth of German heavies with the exception of the E-75 when playing against complete idiots.

Because any smart player knows that the cupola of the E-75 is auto pen and incredibly easy to hit.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:18:27 No.16988053
>>16987780
>Should I get a t34, and can I train my t92 crew in the t34?
I think you can only train heavy tank crew in the t34

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:19:04 No.16988090
>>16987617
I have a T-34 and have no idea what you're talking about. Everything seems fine here.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:19:53 No.16988130
>>16987780

You "can" grind your t92 crew in the t34.

But you'll still be hit with the different tank type penalty, you can only train like-tank crews in premiums without penalty(so heavy crew in heavy premium, med crew in med premium, etc.).

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:20:46 No.16988176
>>16987786
>23-48 pen
Says who?
If you're comparing T34 to the Maus/E75/VK/Tiger II, it's just 2 fucking pens.
Also not to mention bigger caliber means more normalization.

>>16988017
VK45A is a piece of crap. Why do you compare it to the T34?
The T34 was originally tier IX, that's why it has ridiculous gun.
And in defense of VK45A, it has fucking higher mobility than T34. Its turret turns faster, it aims faster, and certainly better RoF.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:21:02 No.16988197
>>16987737
>below the Tiger II or the Tiger II was on a hill above it.

Those are the same thing dingus.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:21:28 No.16988214
>>16988130
I would just be throwing it in for the doubles, nothing special. but as long as it lets me that is awesome.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:23:56 No.16988338
>>16987780
>Should I get a t34
No, filthy wallet warrior scum

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:24:06 No.16988345
>>16988176
You said tier 8 German tanks. Read what was green texted next time.

Oh, I'm sorry, when a tank has its tier LOWERED generally it's nerfed in some way to make it match the tier it was placed in.

But it wasn't? Oh my, that's strange, I wonder why the T34 is so ridiculous then.

Let me whip out my credit card so I can get some free win ratio.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:28:23 No.16988592
>>16988345
Alright, I fucked up a bit on the reading but here:
The T34 sure has higher pen and damage, but the German tanks tier VIII have much higher RoF and aim time. No tier VIII German reloads at 15 seconds and has 3.4 seconds of aiming time. Not to mention that Tiger II's armor is higher than the T34, and the VK45A even though doesn't have as much armor, it has much better speed and RoF, which it can use to flank people.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:29:21 No.16988646
>>16988338
>I'm poor and others shouldn't be allowed to have convenient gameplay because they have money.

Whatever you say.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:30:28 No.16988694
>>16987780
any other serious opinions, perhaps from people who own the tank? Keep in mind I have a type and lowe, its just that I want to start grinding US stuff besides arty.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:31:44 No.16988757
>>16988592
T34 doesn't have to flank people, it has the highest pen of any tier 8, as well as the highest damage.10 higher than the IS-3's BL-9, which has .3 accuracy and 225 pen by the way, compared to 248 and .35.

The fact is, the T34 is too much tank for a tier 8, and it's $50.

You don't have to work for upgrades, and it's better than even some ELITED tier 9s.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:34:49 No.16988924
>>16988694
In my opinion, the T34 is much better than the Lowe. The Lowe has non-existent armor, terrible speed and overall bad. Its gun is not as good as T34's either.
I think if you weight between T34 and Lowe, and you already owned the Lowe, I'd say you will love the T34.
That being said, if you just want something to grind credit along the Lowe and grinding crew is optional, pick the JagdTiger 88. I say it's fucking wonderful. Its gun shoots so fast it wipes the IS out in 20 seconds, and 2 of it can make even an E-75 cry river in 15.

>>16988757
It doesn't have to flank people, but it can't fight head-on either.
If it fight head-on, most certain that it can't bounce as much as Tiger II, UNLESS it is going hull-down.
The IS-3 also has better armor, as long as you don't angle it.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:36:36 No.16989002

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>grind through the despicable Pz35t, Pz38t, and Pz38nA
>finally unlock the Panzer IV
>first game tracks and engine are both taken out in one hit by a KV-1
>next game I get one hit by a KV-1 through my front armor

G-German engineering...r-right guys?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:37:42 No.16989041
>>16988924
I tried a 88 on the test server and hated it, I don't know if that is because of my love for my ISU or what, but I do love my lowe and the turret thereof although I guess I never met any good t34 drivers as I have always won in my lowe vs them.

Thats good to know though ill give the 88 another shot if the test server is still up tomorrow.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:40:06 No.16989153
Why is the tigerH so bad
why

Why did they turn the most legendary tanky into a slowass moving bunker made out of square cardboard?

Why is the engine made out of tinder?

Why is the crew so quickly dead?

How do I get past the grind of this thing?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:43:04 No.16989281

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>>16989041
The JagdTig 88 is a bit difficult to play.
You don't have the camo like other tanks, you don't have alpha damage like other TDs, but you do have a fast-shooting gun with high as hell DPM And practically it is about... 2500 DPM. With Rammer it might be even HIGHER.
That reminds me, I need to get a rammer... Although I don't think half a second is worth it...
Pic related.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:45:42 No.16989412
>>16989281
I think i have seen you in pub games.

That is pretty crazy though, I cannot fathom what the t34 was doing for those 10 shots lol.

Anyway imma hit the sack but I think i will be getting one of those two tanks for sure, the t34 gold rounds (that will be for credits) look really tempting too

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:45:47 No.16989417
>>16989281
>With Rammer it might be even HIGHER.
PERHAPS EVEN 10 PERCENT HIGHER!

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:50:05 No.16989639
>>16988757

You're an idiot. In a straight up fight, a T34 will tie with a Tiger H. That's how "OP" the T34 is.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:50:42 No.16989668

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>>16989417
That's the dumbest thing I've heard all thread. God damn you people are stupid.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:50:46 No.16989674
> Be last alive.
> Heavy on the left.
> Heavy coming from behind.
> TDs far on the left, artillery still ready to ruin me.
Why does this keep happening.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:50:58 No.16989684
>>16989412
Oh...
That T34 took 3 shots at my upper structure they all bounce off and then try to back up the hill.
I chased him and took him out. Entirely.

>>16989417
Sometimes 300 damages change the game man.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:52:05 No.16989726

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>>16989002
>drive a KV-1
>PzIVs are high priority targets for me because I know they're easy prey
>see this post
>suddenly feel shame and guilt

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:53:35 No.16989796

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>>16989002
Play the pzIV with the dome turret and derp.
Hide in bushes

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 07:57:31 No.16989976

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>>16989639
Talking out of your ass.jpg

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:04:53 No.16990279
>>16989976

First, the Tiger can just shoot the MG port or the lower plate of the T34. Guaranteed pen.

Secondly, if the Tiger is slightly lucky, 4% extra damage above average, it will kill the T34 in 6 shots, not 7. For the T34 to do that, it would have to shoot 21% over its average damage.

You are the one talking out of your ass.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:06:33 No.16990360
>>16990279
>Hey guys, if these specific conditions are met, this tank wins, therefore I am right.

/vg/ tanks threads general.

If a Maus facehugs an IS-7 and uses gold rounds and the IS-7 only shoots his gun mantlet, he'll win. Maus is the best tier 10.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:09:14 No.16990464
So I quit this game for a year or so.

Are russian tanks still superior to german tanks in every way?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:09:23 No.16990472
>>16990279
>it will kill the T34 in 6 shots

That's uh, still more shots than the T34 has to take. Which means you're dead sooner. Which means you still lose.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:09:55 No.16990497
>>16990464
yes, and the french can still fuck up a russian pretty bad too.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:11:17 No.16990547
>>16990472
His specific situation is that both tanks are sitting there, the Tiger is penning a very small weak spot in the front of the T34 every single shot for free and the T34 is shooting him wherever because it doesn't matter he'll pen everywhere.

And they are just sitting there in the open shooting, while the Tiger is allowed to hit for over his average but the T34 is not.

Thus, the Tiger wins because that is going to happen ever.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:12:42 No.16990598

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>>16986952
>"Better" cannon
>only advantages are that it has 2 more pen and is lighter

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:13:49 No.16990642
>>16990598
>Pen
>Accuracy
>Rate of fire is higher than the tier 9 version and barely lower than the tier 10 version
>"All it has is 2 pen lol"

One is a tier 8 cannon, the other is a tier 10 cannon.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:19:30 No.16990872
>>16990547
>The Tiger wins but only if the stars align and he rolls for the highest damage every time while the T34 rolls for the lowest everytime!

Yeah OK. You still lose though.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:19:44 No.16990884
>>16990642
No, one is a tier 9 gun. Look at the Roman numerals.

And as people have said before, the rest of T34 is extremely lackluster to make up for that gun. You've got the gun, and you've got the frontal+rear plates on the turret. That's it. It's slow, its hull armor is a joke, and its turret traverse is actually slower than the E-100's.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:21:58 No.16990993
>>16990547

Lower plate is a very small weak spot? Stay bad.

Also, if both hit for average damage, both will die at the same time.

If both hit for 1-3% above their average damage, same result.

If both hit for 4%-20% above their average damage, Tiger wins.

If both hit for 21-24% above their average damage, T34 wins.

If both hit for 25% above their average damage, Tiger wins.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:25:33 No.16991164
>>16990872

That guy you're assuming is also assuming the Tiger rolls for its lowest pen every time as well.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:26:16 No.16991215
>>16989796
>implying the pzIV still has the vader and derp

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:26:18 No.16991217
>>16991164
guy that you're quoting*

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:32:45 No.16991540

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It's times like this that make me regret ever making the NA-to-SEA switch.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:37:49 No.16991783

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Had to be careful not to fall of it.
But I peppered the IS-6 from above.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:38:25 No.16991821
Was Abbey modified in 8.1 ?
I don't have exact numbers like some of you do, but it seems to me that if you spawn in the north, you'll win.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:42:36 No.16992006

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>>16991783
>1
>8
>F
>P
>S
>1024x768

Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:43:45 No.16992060
>>16992006
18 is actually pretty high for me.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:44:23 No.16992084
>>16991821
> Actually spawn North.
> Lose.
Okay, nevermind. I don't think I've ever seen anyone spawning there losing on this map.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:47:34 No.16992239
>>16992060
What's wrong with you? Movies aren't even that low. How can you stand playing like that? Not only does it look like ass, but it's just going to make you slower to react to things on screen. At that point a normal rational person would deem the game unplayable.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:49:12 No.16992305
>>16992239

If you think his FPS is bad, you would go insane over my FPS when I was playing on my laptop with Intel integrated graphics.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:49:17 No.16992309
>>16991540
You're not the only one.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:49:44 No.16992334
>>16992239
It's doable.

And it is less trouble in higher tier where guns reload slower.

In lower tiers if somebody with an autocannon was shooting me my framerate would drop even more.
That was unplayable.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:53:47 No.16992524

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>>16992334
It's time to upgrade. Your tech is shit and your game is just going to suffer because of it. Even the lowest end gaming PCs today are more capable than your piece of crap.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:55:12 No.16992584
>>16992309
I didn't get a screenshot of what happened next, but yeah. It's pretty much what you'd expect. A cloud of red came down on me, and most of the heavies camping south stood still, waiting for fucking nothing.

I swear man.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:56:23 No.16992629
>>16992524
You better take your words back.
My Easynote LJ71 is my true laptop, 3 gb ram, 2 dual core processor.
The only problems it has is a nasty memory leak and the cooling doesn't work anymore. (I have a big tower fan planted on it's side behind my laptop)

And the sound of the fan doesn't bother me anymore.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:58:11 No.16992710

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>>16992629
Disgusting.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 08:58:50 No.16992756
>>16992629
>implying memory leaks have anything to do with hardware

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 09:00:20 No.16992819
>>16992756
No, but I don't know what is causing it.

But I know when to restart as I can't play WoT anymore. (starts crashing at the loading screen)

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 09:08:22 No.16993171
>>16992584
I honestly don't know how it's possible that the SEA server pubbies are worse than NA pubs.

Oh wait, I do asian-niggers.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 09:11:38 No.16993342
>>16993171
> asia
> niggers
So, contrary to popular belief, there IS white genoci-... multiculturalism in Asia ?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 09:13:55 No.16993451
>>16993342
No, phillipinos.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 09:32:15 No.16994302
>>16993171
Oh and I forgot, indians and indonesians too.

captcha: analsac

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 09:49:57 No.16995229

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>>16992629

>playing games on laptops

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 10:45:53 No.16997573

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Jesus christ why was this so hard to ace.
Seriously this was stupid as fuck.

Oh well. only 7k to go to SU-152.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 10:48:36 No.16997683
>>16997573
Probably a lot of people still playing it to unlock new TDs, so the required percentile is higher.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 10:55:26 No.16997985
I've been away for a while, is it easier to tell if you yourself have spotted someone yet? Or are scouts still everyone's bitches.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 10:56:54 No.16998048
>>16997985
you can see the amount of damage you spotted for in the ending scores panel

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 10:59:37 No.16998161
>>16997683

That isn't actually that high of a threshold to get ace.

SU-100 just cannot into high XP or something, it's horrible.
It also just had weird thresholds anyway. I had tons of 1200~1300xp games, couldn't get first class, I have the magical ace tanker game and just completely skipped it.

God I hate this tank. So much.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:01:53 No.16998268

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This tank is just great sometimes.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:06:53 No.16998502
> driving my M18
> go around a corner
> see a JPIV overlooking a cliff
> decide to push him off the cliff because it would be funny
> ram his ass and he barely moves an inch, my fucking hellcat cannot push him at all
> constantly back up and ramming again and again hoping I can push him off somehow
> I anal rammed him to death, he never even fell off the cliff

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:07:13 No.16998517
>>16998268
>Optics & Binocs

Make up your mind already man

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:10:19 No.16998638
>>16998517
What do you mean? One increases range constantly while the other does it while you are stopped. They add together.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:13:21 No.16998757
>>16997573
Also, it's actually a good vehicle for T6, with a very good selection of guns and fuck-you-I'm-a-klingon camo values.

That means people don't just grind through to get a better vehicle.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:13:30 No.16998761
>>16998638
They do not stack, if that's what you're saying. Only one or the other works.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:13:31 No.16998762
>>16998517
Optics for active scouting, binos for bush camping. It's not like there's anything more useful to put there.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:17:21 No.16998920
>>16998761

Optics is always active, so you have a static 10%.

When bushcamping, binocs is active and it goes to 25%.

Binocs/Optics on the same tank is pretty common, especially on scouts(my 13 90 was optics+binocs, and my chaffee would be too if it couldn't vert stab).

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:22:23 No.16999157
>40-30 FPS
>get into forest
>sniper mode
>5 FPS

>download stuff that removes the bushes and makes trees empty stumps
>20 FPS

Well, at least I'm not a liability anymore...

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:27:05 No.16999390
>>16998920
The 10% from optics and the 25% from binocs don't stack together when binocs become active is what I was saying. Wasn't sure if that's what you meant or not.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:35:03 No.16999756
>Optics and Binocs
Why not get both, even if they don't stack? And a camo net for the third slot to switch from active to passive scouting and viceversa at will.
It's not like you were going to actually fight, and if you did it would only be against the enemy arty.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:44:21 No.17000196

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Today we scout.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:46:25 No.17000275
>>16998268
So what is the advantage of getting that tank over a luchs?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:52:49 No.17000553

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It's just one of those days again.

Goddamnit, SEA pubs.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:53:04 No.17000567
Question!
If I research something on my current tank that the next tank from it will have, will it make researching the next tank cheaper?
Say, an engine with the VK3061H which the Tiger has aswell, or the 8,8cm? If I get those with the VK will the Tiger be cheaper to research?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:54:41 No.17000648
>>17000567
...well, yes. Researching parts that carry over to the next tier is ideal. That's one less part to research, after all.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:55:17 No.17000672
>>17000553
>Playing SEA
What's your excuse?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:55:55 No.17000713
>>17000567
>>17000648
OH, wait, do you mean the overall EXP requirement in unlocking the next tier tank? If that's the case, then no. They stay the same regardless.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:56:06 No.17000719
>>17000553
Since the game modes require a little more thinking and tactics than standard battles you should probably untick them for pub matches, especially in SEA.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:56:44 No.17000751
>>17000672
Better ping. I get around 150-200 on NA. Jumped ship and it gives me 50-90.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:57:22 No.17000780
>>17000275
Better acceleration, lower profile, higher radio and view range. Luchs has a better gun if you mount the top turret though.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 11:59:36 No.17000879
>>17000275
As I understand it, it's a bit more durable and has a better gun (not in terms of damage, but in terms of not having a retarded aim time) in exchange for some maneuverability.

>>17000780
Hard to make good use of that top gun on the Luchs though, that fucking aim time.

Luchs is a better scout with the other turret and autocannon, if it's good enough for a Pz II, it's good enough for me! (I run the same gun on the Leopard too)

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:01:04 No.17000956
8.1 when

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:02:55 No.17001030
>>17000956
It's already live on the RU server and they have the final update note as a news thing so I'd say today/tommorow couple days at the latest.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:13:15 No.17001484
>>16988017
>The short 10.5, which is the best cannon the 4502A
88/L71 is way better you scrub

>A very, very slightly angled T34 beats that and will bounce it
So an angled T34 has a slight chance of bouncing the worst pen of a gun that has subpar penetration for T8...

And let's compare the two tanks a bit further:
VK4502A has
- great mobility, can run with meds
- better overall armor, bounces meds of same tier and most lower tier heavies/TDs
- beter DPS

T34 has
- 127mm front turret armor
- 279mm mantlet that sometimes stacks with the front turret armor
- shit armor everywhere else
- mobility of a beached whale
- worst on the move accuracy in game
- gun with high pen and accuracy, but it takes several geological eras to stabilize enough to be accurate

tl,dr: T34 cannot win against any other T8 heavy, unless it's in a hull-down position that is also safe from arty.

BTW, the Lowe also has an excellent turret mantlet. Last night I (T34) was trading shots with a Lowe, both of us hull-down. Neither one of us could pen the other (I bounced 5-6 his shots, he bounced 3 of mine)

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:13:59 No.17001527

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So, how should I spend my 750,000 credits when 8.1 goes live, which tanks is it best spent on?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:15:35 No.17001634
>>17001527
You mean from those tanks or the brits?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:16:21 No.17001674
>>17001634
I'm an idiot: I'm supposed to be referring to gold rounds.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:19:43 No.17001841
>>17001674
>>17001527
JagdTiger all day erryday.
Imagine penning everything at ridiculous rate, and gradually plinking off their every little HP.
Or E-75. Definitely E-75. The proud son of the Fatherland.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:20:40 No.17001896

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I wonder how many noobs will be left totally out of credits due massive spending on gold ammo...

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:24:01 No.17002073
>KV-2 derp hopped up on gold

I can feel it.

I'm going to have some fun once 8.1 comes out.

Or not. The derp's inaccuracy is legendary.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:24:33 No.17002105
>>17001896
Then they'll buy gold to have credits?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:24:36 No.17002109
>>17001841
I've only got the stock gun on the E-75, but honestly, it doesn't really need it.

JT88 might be amusing though.

What about the VK2801, I heard that'd benefit a lot. I was also wondering how amusing and cost effective it might be to stock up on autocannon rounds for the PzII, Luchs and Leopard.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:24:43 No.17002115
>>17000567
Once you unlock a tank, any previously unlocked modules that are also on the tech tree for the new tank will be automatically unlocked. Researching upgrades for your next tank on lower tiers is almost always a good idea.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:26:36 No.17002202
>>17001484
Don't forget the worst RPM of any tier 8 (4)

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:26:51 No.17002212
Honestly don't think I'll play world of tanks for a couple days after 8.1. I think I'll wait until everyone has calmed down on the whole WE GOLD AMMO NOW shit.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:27:16 No.17002234
>>17001674
VK 2801, Hetzer, maybe Hummel.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:27:50 No.17002269
>>17002109
Never played 2801 myself so I don't really know how it works, but with the stat I am sure it's just not wort-
>HEAT round on 150
>150 pen
>350 damage
GOLD ROUND INSTA-BUY!

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:27:53 No.17002274
8.1 patch notes:

>Fixed rare issue which caused player be placed into game modes they previously excluded.

God damn it, no one believed me when I said I had assault unchecked and I kept fucking getting it anyway. Thank god WG fixed it.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:28:15 No.17002298
>>17002234
I could afford WAY more rounds for the Bison than the Hummel...

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:31:14 No.17002425

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>>17002274

happened to me too.

>8.0
>fuck year no more assault crap for me
>3rd battle
>assault

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:31:45 No.17002451
>>17002269
Now as I gather, no normalization, so I'd still be wanting to get to the flanks and find favourable spots to hit, on tanks between tiers 6-8, right?

I've learned how tough tanks are relative to the guns I use, rather than actually learning penetration values and armour thickness, like a blind man checking how tough a tank is by firing 88mm rounds at it.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:34:26 No.17002582

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>>17002105

>buy gold to have credits

yes,YES!

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:37:25 No.17002714
>be tier 5
>worthless tier 6 screw up the games
>be tier 6
>worthless tier 8 screw up the games
>be tier 1 pubstomping for the lulz
>worthless tier 2 screw up the games

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:39:38 No.17002783
>>17002714
Because a tier 10 tank can TOTALLY carry the match.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:49:13 No.17003170
So what do you guys think will be some low-tier (2-3) 'fun'/pubstomping tanks that can get a nice boost from premium ammo?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:50:52 No.17003224
So which tanks are able to drift through turns?

Aside from the obvious T-50/T-50-2, the only other 2 tanks I've managed to get drifting are the AMX 13 90, and the M18 (the M18 was going down hill, somehow I got it drift, can't reproduce consistently).

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:51:48 No.17003261
>>17002783
thats endgame the balance completely changed

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:52:07 No.17003272

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39 matches with a 70% w/l and 31559xp later, I'm finally done with SU-100 and will never have to play this piece of shit ever again.

Have I mentioned I hate the SU-100?
Because I really fucking hate it.

Now 8.1 needs to come out so I can spam HEAT out of the 152.
Oh god that will be so glorious.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:52:33 No.17003287
>>17003224
VK2801 and Luchs do quite often, usually if you crest a small bump or head downhill and turn rather than constantly like the T-50-2.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:53:44 No.17003327
>>17003170
luchs or pz2 with autocannon.

>>17003224
Definitely luchs. I've also done it with the ELC and like you the 13 90.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 12:59:33 No.17003548
>>17003287
>>17003327

I'll have to rebuy the Luchs and play around with it, I was done with it before physics, looking forward to VK2801 physics, though it might be a while since the Leopard is just.... why?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 13:01:48 No.17003635
>>17003548
Yeah, camo net, binocs, sit in a bush and alt-tab if you're particularly lazy.

VK2801 isn't particularly special with physics anyway, the Luchs is more fun to drive IMO.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 13:02:51 No.17003671
>>17003548
Make sure you use the stock turret and autocannon for maximum drifting goodness.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 13:07:20 No.17003854
>>17003635

Normally I look down on suicide scouts, but with the Leopard I can't help but really do that myself since it's so bad. I play out tier 4 games, and try to play out 5 and 6, but 7+ is just RR new tank time.

Is the VK2801 worth the pain of the Leopard?

>>17003671

Then so it shall be.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 13:12:32 No.17004030
>>17003854
The VK2801 can be amazing, the gun is very nice, but it's a bit of a brick sometimes, you really do need to learn the maps carefully to be able to maintain your speed, it's a great raider and scout-scounter as well as being pretty decent in a pure scouting role.

If you have any interest in scouting, make sure to read Tazilon's scouting guide in the pastebin, it vastly improved my performance in it and all the other scouts.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 13:12:50 No.17004042
>>17003170
M2 MT with the 75mm derp.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 13:29:24 No.17004642
http://forum.worldoftanks-sea.com/index.php?/topic/6356-tanks-reanimation-submissions/

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 13:45:43 No.17005195
I'm actually afraid to ask this, since it's one of my favorite tank;

How is the M10 Wolverine in the game?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 13:50:39 No.17005384
>>17005195
It's a decent T5 tonk

bigger and better armoured than the T49 I love, same decent gun, but a little slower than my hellcat-lite

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 13:52:25 No.17005451

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>>17005384

Cool.

As long as it's not utter shit, I'm fine with it.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 13:54:13 No.17005527
>>17005384

It can actually use the 76mm M1A2, so it fires slightly faster, with a slightly better accuracy, and I believe also slightly better aim time.

But yeah it's a great tank and I've kept mine. The 105mm can also provide an alternate style of play for it, I find both fun and switch back and forth.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 13:54:58 No.17005542
>>17005195
Hated it at first, got used to it then started enjoying it when I started winning ending with 60% ratio by the time I moved on from it.

I didn't like it at first because it
a) Had a gun no more powerful than the previous T40,
b) Handled like a brick
c) Did nothing better than my favorite the PzIII/IV except for having a high ROF gun once upgraded.

So I suppose it is like any other tank, mostly absolute crap until upgraded and you've gotten used to using.

This was just my experience with it, yours may vary.
Still trying to get to the 90mm in the Hellcat, right now I can damage hardly anything unless I am the highest tier.
>T6 as damaging as a T4

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 13:56:32 No.17005601
>>17005384

It's not the same gun.
Why I've heard it repeated that it is multiple times now I have no fucking idea.

M10=M1A2
T49=M1A1

The difference is a gigantic RoF bump.

Anyway, M10 is arguably second best T5 TD, retards obsessed with GOTTA GO FAST will say T49 is better, it's not(same syndrome of people claim E8 is gods gift from WG and is infinitely better than the E2 when it's arguably horrible and can't fulfill its proper role well at all unless it's top tier).

Only TD that tops it in its tier is S-35CA, due to still having an absolutely ridiculous gun, but M10 beats it in DPM, mobility, depression and that it has a turret - so M10 is a much better field TD while S-35CA ends up a better bush TD.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 14:00:20 No.17005703
>>17005601
Don't forget the M10 also has a rather bouncy turret.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 14:07:33 No.17005974
>>17005601

Yeah the E2/E8 thing is amusing to me, since the E8 is literally just a slightly better in every way M4 but with more hitpoints. Which means it's great as long as you're not seeing T8s, because you're seeing everything a standard M4 would see except you're better, the problem comes when you see T8s which seems to be about every other battle.

The E2 with the stock turret and the 105 is a pretty solid tank, in my opinion. Not exactly the best, and still a bit inadequate against T8s, but just really solid.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 14:25:24 No.17006758

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>>17004642
That second post.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 14:28:28 No.17006890
>>17003272
Yeah, I hated it too don't know why exactly.
It does good alpha damage for its tier, so what's the catch with that thing?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 14:33:06 No.17007061
>>17004642
What the fuck.
WHAT THE FUCK.
WHAAAAAAAAT THE FUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKK.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 14:35:45 No.17007190

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Hey guys.
Possessing the JagdTiger 88.
Should I get the Vent and Toolbox or Vent and GLD?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 14:38:22 No.17007310
>>17007190
You don't need a GLD, toolbox might be nice, but I suggest you try out some binoculars, gives you a seriously intimidating view range.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 14:39:09 No.17007343
>>17007310
I suppose I don't need GLD too. Shit turns so slow GLD would barely make a difference.
So that's Rammer/Vent/Binoc?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 14:42:31 No.17007494
What are the best tank destroyers or SPGs in the early classes. Up to tier 4.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 14:42:41 No.17007503
>>17007343
That's what I run on mine, toolbox would be useful, but personally I find a lot of use for that massive view range.

But yeah, so very very slow, you really need to plan your initial movements carefully and keep your distance from the fight.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 14:43:25 No.17007540
>>17007343
Sounds good

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 14:46:50 No.17007702
>>17003272
Just what the hell are you doing with that thing?
I loved it when I was still a scrub I sniped with it

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 14:48:32 No.17007786
>>17007494
Best arty: Tier 3 SU-26 (Soviet)
Best TD: Tier 3 Marder II (German)

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 14:50:44 No.17007880
>>17007494
SPGs: SU-26 hands down (USSR Tier 3)
TDs: T18 (US Tier 2), Marder II (even after all the nerfs; German Tier 3), FCM36 Pak 40 (French Tier 3 premium)

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 14:50:55 No.17007890

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>>17007786
>Best arty: Tier 3 SU-26 (Soviet)
YOU GET THE FUCK OUT NOW!

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 14:51:59 No.17007939
>>17007786
>Best TD
>Anything but the T82
Do you even oneshot?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 14:56:19 No.17008147
>never paid attention to premium tank costs
>buy 5500 gold
>wow, wonder if I should get a nice high tier premium with this or what!
>T34 12k gold
all of my what

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 14:58:22 No.17008250
>>17008147
Just grab another 2000 or 4500 and get yourself the SP (7500) or the JagdTig 88 (10000).
Those two alone will make you shitloadsa dosh.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:00:28 No.17008352
>>17007786
Thanks man. Just bought the German tank des and sniped through the game.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:01:56 No.17008426
>>17008250
Get the sp unless you love sniping from a brick,

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:04:58 No.17008585
>>17007890
It's even the best arty for its tier in the game period

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:06:00 No.17008641
>>17008250
>>17008426
I'm reeeeally tempted to get the JgTiger88, but thinking of all that premium account time I could get with the gold....Is it really worth it?

Super pershing's stats seem pretty underwhelming to me. Too slow for a medium and the armor isn't that great either? I'm currently trying to get a T20 which seems amazing.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:07:51 No.17008750

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In case some doubted Insider-kun, if he says the truth.

Here's the first leaked picture of a Chinese Tank.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:09:01 No.17008810

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>>17008750
ITS HAPPENING

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:09:34 No.17008846
>>17008641
It's got a great gun with great stats, penetration is a little low and the damage is lacklustre for it's tier, but with a decent crew you fire every 5 seconds and it's fucking accurate.

Downside is, you're a very large very slow lump with a lot of weakspots on the lower hull, terrible turning speed (Far lower than the stated stats) and you're about as fast as a Slowe. Oh, and your sides are paper.

I make about 35K on average in mine, for a decent match win, without premium.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:09:48 No.17008856
>>17007939
Meh. It's a very cool tank, but much less reliable than the Marder II. It relies on quickly dealing the killing blow. If it fails, it's dead.

Meanwhile the Marder can safely keep back and snipe suckas left and right.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:11:37 No.17008953
>>17008856
But the T82 can do that with the 57mm and it's fast enough to relocate and avoid arty fire unlike the Marder.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:13:07 No.17009029
>>17008641

The Super Pershings listed armour values do not include the spaced armour, which is pretty fucking high in the front (there is none on the side or rears).

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:19:57 No.17009417
>>17008641
Premium tanks are for people who suck too much to make profits with all tiers.

Dont do it.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:24:31 No.17009632
>>17009417
Now that I think of it, using the gold for premium on weekends (which is when I mostly play) will probably get me more profit. I mostly play T5 / T6 tanks anyway.

Would still love to have the JgTiger though, just because it looks so awesome. I'm about to buy JgPzIV and haven't heard many good things about it.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:24:41 No.17009643
>>17008750
Time to train a few crews to 100% on the Type, I guess.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:26:15 No.17009743
>>17009632
It's not that bad, especially after the buff.

>>17009417
Or people who don't want to have to buy premium to play their tier 9 tanks.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:27:07 No.17009778
>>17008641
>and the armor isn't that great either
you're crazy, i'm grinding steel wall awards on it

the thing is basically a tier 8 AMX 40, if you don't like that tank don't bother with SP

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:27:48 No.17009813
>>17009743
spend money so you can spend time grinding a tank you arent wanting to play to play a tank you do want to play

or

Spend money to play a tank you want to play.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:28:46 No.17009867
>>17009417
you should try playing tier IX without a premium account bro

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:28:45 No.17009868

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>>17009417
enjoy your eternal tier 5-6 grind to get those 6mil, faggot.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:30:02 No.17009932
>>17009778
It's great if you can hide the lower glacis, on an open map though...

>>17009813
A one time purchase I can grind cash on forever or a subscription for x amount of time.

Besides, they're nice for training crews in and some of them are very enjoyable to play, no one ever bought a Pz38H735 to grind dosh.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:33:33 No.17010117
>>17006890

It has the META cannon, and it's got a 10.something second reload on 100% crew/vents/rammer, it's just...
I don't even know.
It straddles the fine line of being accurate but not being able to hit the broad side of a barn.

I don't even know how many times where I've taken multiple shots only for each one to stray into a pen no damage. I just happened all the fucking time. The 175 pen also kind of sucks when you're forced into t8 matches 80% of the time; as does the zero armor.

>>17007702
The SU-152?
I'm going to rape machine on it with gold rounds.
It actually will be a mix of sniping with a .5 accuracy cannon and giggling like a little school girl when I shave 700hp off of someone, a mix of 1-shotting random scouts that stray too close, and being a semi-close quarters "stay the fuck away from me" gun.
With gold rounds, the 152 is basically a slightly lower alpha, lower pen BL-10 that's a bit more inaccurate.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:34:49 No.17010185
>>17009868
>implying i did not have money to buy my e100 saved up by the time i finished the grind to it.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:37:06 No.17010313
>>17009778
>>17009932
Speaking of, how does the thing hold up against gold rounds?

Do they make any difference at all against that spaced armor or are weak spots still the only way to pen the front?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:39:06 No.17010412
>>17010313
No idea, upper superstructure is 250mm at the front and barely sloped, so I'm sure you can work out who can get through that.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:45:05 No.17010749
>>17010412
>superstructure
Are we still talking about the Super Pershing?

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:50:39 No.17011027
8.1 when

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:54:13 No.17011215
PzIII/IV's gun is making me upset.

FUCKING PENETRATE THAT KV YOU FUCKER

FUCK YEAH PENETRATION

FUCK NO 0 DAMAGE BECAUSE 80% OF THE KV IS NOTHING BUT TRACKS

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:54:58 No.17011254
>>17011215
to add, my latest match

16 hits
8 penetrations
200 damage

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:56:03 No.17011310
>>17010749
No, that's how you refer to the large box like structures built onto the chassis to house the big guns on vehicles like the Jagdtiger and Ferdinand.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 15:57:28 No.17011384

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>>17008750
>A tier 7 T-34

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 16:03:47 No.17011693
>>16989153
>regularly goes up against tanks that could have kicked its ass six ways from Sunday
>complains when they do

Yeah, let's satisfy the wishes of the germanophiles by pitting the Tiger against nothing stronger than early model Shermans and T-34s so they can stroke their schnitzel.

Play it as a sniper and 80% of those problems will be mitigated.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 16:03:59 No.17011701

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>doing German TDs
>get to Hetzer
>It's fucking awful. Slow as shit, never pens anything
>Unlock derp gun
>mfw

I think I definitely prefer big slow HE guns to small fast AP ones.

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Anonymous 2012-10-25 16:05:08 No.17011754
>>17011310
Yes, hence my confusion

My question was about the SP's spaced armor and gold rounds, nothing to do with the JT etc.







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