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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:01:27 No.20928971

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Congratulations.

I think this may very well be one of the WORST Megas. Inner Focus is fucking useless, and don't give me that "b-b-but muh Fake Out" bullshit, you know it's gonna get a reverse stat swap of Gardevoir meaning it'll get high Attack, high SpD and okay Speed and still have piss poor garbage Defense. Meaning that even if it can take a Fake Out, so fucking what? Your opponent will know not to use Fake Out on it. It is essentially a useless, worthless ability. Mega Medicham has this thing outclassed by a long shot.

This Pokemon is an unstylish fucking disgrace.


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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:02:53 No.20928989
>>20928971
We already have one thread about how wrong you are go bitch about it there instead of clogging up the feed with this.

We have no idea what stats or ORAS move tutors will do for it.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:04:42 No.20929008
>>20928989
It has a useless ability. Face the fact.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:05:05 No.20929015
>>20928971
blah blah blah Inner Focus is bad blah blah blah it will have Gardevoir's stats blah blah blah

We fucking know already. It won't be tippy top rank OU but it will at least be good in UU. Be happy it got a mega at all.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:06:56 No.20929035
>>20928971
>comparing Gallade to Medicham just because they have the same typing
Anyway, it's not like everything needs a good ability to be good. But most things with useless abilities can hold items, so never mind.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:07:35 No.20929040
>>20928971
>unstylish fucking disgrace

I suppose HE is

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:08:23 No.20929052
>>20929008
>ability means everything


oh man how could we have all been so blind up until this point

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:08:33 No.20929055
>>20929008
Not my fucking point.

>Useless ability =/= It's shit and no one will use it

Look at Keldeo, completely shit ability but stats, typing, movepool all allow it to be very capable in OU.

We have no clue what is on the way besides it can no longer flinch.

I don't even care that much about Gallade or Mega Gallade, I'm tired of shit threads like these

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:13:57 No.20929142
I'm disappointed, but I'm glad he got a mega with a decent design anyway.

At this point I can only reason why he was given inner focus was because of some kind of flavorful thing similar to Mewtwo, since they both are Psychic/Fighting types and maintaining perfect focus is a trait common to the philosophy of both psychic and fighting types. Or something like that.

They went for theme rather than usability. There's still the slight possibility of it having a different stat spread from Gardevoir. Though that is also admittedly a slim proposition.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:15:47 No.20929163
>>20928971
I feel like Inner Focus should be good in VGC, due to how good Fake Out is there, but tbh nothing with Inner Focus is that great there. Dragonite is still usually Multiscale, and then there are things like Crobat that are surprisingly good, but still ultimately gimmicks...

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:16:45 No.20929180
>>20929163
And even then, all it basically says is for your opponent not to hit it with Fake Out. Even THEN, Gallade has terrible Defense.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:18:10 No.20929193
>>20929163
VGC probably won't be Fake Out spam next season anyway with the rise of Mega Salamence. Kangaskhan will still be used, but Salamence will dethrone it as the flavor of the month.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:19:07 No.20929209
>>20928971
XY introduced a lot of singles Megas. ORAS is introducing a lot of doubles Megas; MGallade could be very useful in VGC and other doubles formats. He could work very well with Guard Swap Shuckle - getting enough bulk to have the survivability to sweep away the opposing side.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:19:17 No.20929212
>>20929055
Keldeo doesn't take a mega slot and has pretty obscene power, and options (specs, calm mind, scarf)

What people are forgetting is that other tiers outside of OU exist.

If this thing gets even somewhat decent stats it'll be entirely usable in UU, especially with Heracross gone and shit.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:50:35 No.20929631
>mfw galladite gets banned to BL2 while the base form never breaks out of RU
>mfw it will be like mega gallade doesn't even exist outside of ELO hell and shitters on cart

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:51:44 No.20929661
>>20929212
>entirely usable in UU

Why would I ever run Gallade over this in UU?

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:53:30 No.20929682
Mega Houndoom 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:54:46 No.20929692
>>20929682
Mega Houndoom had a good design, at least.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:56:44 No.20929713
>>20929661
Why would you ever sacrifice your mega stone that could be used on Aerodactyl or Blastoise to have a worse version of Mienshao?

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 21:59:40 No.20929754
>>20929713
>I compare pokemon because they share a typing
>I compare them even though I don't know the stats of the second one
stop

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:01:35 No.20929783
>>20928989
No, you have a thread thinking that but being disproven.

Abilities matters a shit ton. Sure, there's a lot of pokemon that are succesful without it, but they're also:
-Well versed in every other department (stats, movepool, typing)
-Able to use items
-More importantly, not outclassed

You use Keldo as an exampe, but it has everything else going for it. Nothing that does it's job better, awesome ability to use items, hits hard as fuck. The hypothetical stats might LOOK good, but they're way less in practice. Remember, M-Luke only outpowers his Life Orb'd base form after fucking Adaptability. WIth non-STAB he's weaker.

Mega-Gallade would be an okay (not great, but okay) if Medicham didn't exist. Medicham serves the same exact role but does it stronger. That's instant dismissal for a pokemon.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:01:39 No.20929786
>>20929713
I don't even know where to start with you

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:03:13 No.20929817
>>20929783
To add, look at it this way:

Gallade has a shit ability. An only okay typing, poor defensively. A good movepool. Bad stat layout (assuming it is as we think).

1 shit, 2 bad and 1 good doesnt add up to equal good.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:05:10 No.20929842
>>20929209
>MGallade could be very useful in VGC and other doubles formats
It could have gotten an ability that wasn't extremely circumstantial and be even more useful.

The issue isn't that Inner Focus has no purpose and that Gallade won't have some sort of niche, the issue is that who will waste their mega slot just to have a flinch-immune pokemon, when instead you can have a balls-to-the-walls powerhouse like Mom, Y-zard, Mawile, Lucario, etc.?

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:06:27 No.20929856
>>20929754
He was originally comparing Lopunny to Gallade, which is 100% offensive in nature, so I compared Lopunny to Mienshao, which is significantly better than Lopunny will ever hope to be offenisvely in UU. What will set Lopunny apart is its support capabilities, not its offensive presence.

Fucking screencap this. Healing Wish/HJK/Return/Quick Attack MegaLop will be run alongside another sweeper on HO teams in UU, but it won't be as common as Mienshao because other megas in UU are more worthy of the mega slot, particularly Aerodactyl.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:07:49 No.20929883
>>20929856
Oh okay, it was an analogy.

Lopunny will be great. Healing Wish is clutch.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:08:03 No.20929886
>>20929055
>"Look at Keldeo-"
>comparing a Legendary (with a great typing) against Gallade

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:09:24 No.20929904
>>20929209
>ORAS is introducing a lot of doubles Megas
Audino is going to be terrible
Gallade could go either way

Everything else can function just fine in singles. We have a good six megas whose ability is just a straight up % increase to damage, and then a Swift Swim user and a pokemon with unresisted dual STABs.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:11:27 No.20929928
>>20929856
Bro lopunny is gonna be based. Uoeno

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:13:42 No.20929949
I think Skill Swap will be the only way to redeem it.

Stupid Inner Focus!

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:14:20 No.20929955
>>20929928
Read my post. Lopunny is going to be good for its ability to support other sweepers on HO teams, but it isn't going to be hitting nearly as hard as Mienshao. LO Regenerator is 2stronk.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:23:42 No.20930053
>mewtwo is shit because of pressure

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:28:19 No.20930112
I like it....

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:29:35 No.20930125
>>20930053
>I dont like to read the thread, and instead prefer to make an ass out of myself

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:30:36 No.20930134
>implying mega banette is any better
>hurr muh destiny bond

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:31:08 No.20930143
>awful looking pokemon gets awful looking and terrible mega

shit pokemon continues to be shit. oh fucking well.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:32:57 No.20930164
>>20930125
>I don't like it when people won't agree with me

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:36:07 No.20930198
agreed, unfortunately

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:36:40 No.20930202
>>20930164
Let me make this easier for you.

>>20929886
>>20929783
>>20929212

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:40:00 No.20930237
>>20928971
Not every mega is supposed to be OP. Gallade is weaker then Lucario in the first place, so it makes sense that Mega Gallade is weaker then Mega Lucario.

Also I hardly believe it will be more useless then Mega Ampharos and Mega Gardevoire (that is even less used then normal Gardevoire)

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:41:37 No.20930257
>>20930237
This.
Many Pokémon are just not made for competitive.
There are weak Pokémon that are needed for weak trainers. There is competitive battling and story mode.

Are you going to complain about Dedenne now?

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:42:05 No.20930262
>>20930257
Dedenne isn't a fucking mega evolution

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:43:01 No.20930275
>tfw gamefreak hates the same pokemon as you

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:43:29 No.20930284
>>20928971
You shouls wait for the stats. Mega Mewtwo has a shitty trait too.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:44:23 No.20930296
>>20930275
It feels good.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:44:29 No.20930300
>>20928971
Did you want another monster like Big Mom and MLuke?

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:45:06 No.20930303
>>20930257
Megas are, by purpose, meant to be more powerful versions. Literally every other was an attempt at making them viable.

Sure, some failed, but they were at least attempts, and they looked viable on paper. Gallade, however, just got shit on. I'm not even a Gallade fan.. don't really care at all about the thing, and I'm pissed. The sheer incompetence that went behind doing that.

EVERY other mega has a good ability, or, once again, an attempt at one (barring Mewtwo I guess, but its fucking Uber already). Why did they decide to shit it up now?

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:45:56 No.20930311
>>20930262
>what is an analogy?
Not my point. Dedenne is a weak Pokémon, so?
Ampharos (and maybe Gallade) has a weak Mega. So?

You simply fail at getting Pokémon.
Not every mega is supposed to be OP as Lucario.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:46:10 No.20930313
>>20928971
But does he have a funny face?

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:48:53 No.20930359
>>20930311
They don't need to be fucking OP to be viable. God damn. Why does eveyrthing have to be so black and white with you people?

We're not asking for Huge Power+ Parental Bond and Speed Boost all on the same pokemon. It'd be nice if he wasn't complete trash though.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:50:23 No.20930382
>>20930303
How can you possibly know this one is going to fail? People said that Mega mewtwo was going to be useless because Mewtwo @ Life Orb was better. Guess what? They were wrong. Also about the fact that Mewtwo X is more used then Y.

Also some Mega are not supposed to be better, but just different, in order to make use of the form switch during the battle, as Mega Gyarados, that can create good strategies but Mega is not "better" then normal.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:51:58 No.20930398
>>20930359
Yes you do (unless Smogon bans the OP ones, but I don't play Smogon Online, I play Pokémon). You can only use 1 Mega, and I would fucking choose a good one over a "viable one".

That's the reason nobody used M Gardevoire in VGC and instead used Gardevoire and saved the mega slot for Kanga/Luke/Mawile/Charizard/Gyarados

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:55:48 No.20930439
I only play Pokemon for the single player and collecting/trading, so I give absolutely zero fucks how viable anything is for this fucking autistic wreck you call a "meta game", and it would be awesome if game freak removed or broke it permanently so this series could refocus on capturing cute monsters and waifus and I wouldn't have to hide fifty smogin threads on every goddamn page

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 22:57:00 No.20930455
>>20930439
>waah people enjoy videogames in a different way than I do!

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 23:00:48 No.20930492
>>20929713

Maybe because some people choose not to use Pokemon's whose design they don't like. I don't care how fucking powerful it is. If I don't like it's design it will never be on my team. Plus scrappy high jump kicking/fake out on ghosts is something Mienshao can't do. She can also switch into a para before mega evolving giving her a free switch. Something else Mienshao can't do.

Good luck crashing into the wall and missing fake outs when they predict you and switch a ghost in.

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 23:04:13 No.20930509
>>20930275
>>20930296

>tfw gamefreak loves the same pokemon as you

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 23:06:40 No.20930531
>>20929040
I also suppose HE has a funny face

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Anonymous 2014-09-11 23:30:58 No.20930818
>>20930492
The only relevant ghost in UU is Chandelure, and that is extremely niche as an anti-meta against stall. Besides, Mienshao gets Knock Off, which fucks Chandelure and Trevenant (which is significantly worse than Chandelure and should drop to RU).

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Anonymous 2014-09-12 00:01:40 No.20931139
>>20929783
this.







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