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Anonymous 2013-11-15 08:52:05 No.13716444

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Does anybody have an explanation for stigmata? Or any other explanation for this?


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Anonymous 2013-11-15 08:55:31 No.13716453
Yes, gullible idiots believing practical attention-whores.

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Anonymous 2013-11-15 08:57:36 No.13716460
>>13716453
So you think it is self-harm?

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V 2013-11-15 08:57:52 No.13716463
>>13716444

Why are her eyes bleeding?

>>13716453

There are some fairly well-documented incidents involving religious-y stuff. Like holy water curing people and such. I don't remember any of them, and obviously not well-documented enough to remember.

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V 2013-11-15 08:58:54 No.13716466
>>13716460

Talk about a specific case, otherwise there is no point in discussion.

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The cats 2013-11-15 09:00:28 No.13716470
I'm pretty sure that along with bleeding statues and preserved bodies of saints it has been shown to have questionable circumstances and a fair share of hoaxes, yes?

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Anonymous 2013-11-15 09:00:39 No.13716471
>>13716466
Let's talk about the first stigmata case, his name was the holy Fransiscus and he had diffrent wounds on his hand and feet.

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V 2013-11-15 09:09:05 No.13716487
>>13716471

I was looking over it briefly since I barely remember any of these incidents. Anyway, here you have to consider just how old this event is. Take Giordano Bruno, who was fairly well known in the 1500s - nobody even knows how tall he was.

Here we are looking at 400 years later and a diary of some priest as evidence. Sure, other people saw it after, but we have absolutely no way to determine the nature of the wounds.

Logic goes that a rational person wouldn't inflict it on himself, but what if he had the eye infection and was like "well fuck this shit," just as an exampke.

>>13716470

As far as I know, but again, you would have to look at it case by case, which no one here is willing to do, because it's boring as shit.

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HospitalCowboy 2013-11-15 09:09:35 No.13716489
>>13716444
Well I see some limited cases, "TRUE" stigmatics like Francis of Assisi and Padre Pio, as the manifestation of extreme faith and potentially a gift from the divine that mechanically occurs through intense psychosomatic conditioning because in both cases the body itself did not have wounds but would instead leak blood through the skin (with the exception of Francis' side). For other cases I would say it varies from self injury and delusion to straight up con artists. But too few people realize that having an actual explanation for a phenomenon does not discredit the "why" behind it.

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Anonymous 2013-11-15 09:11:32 No.13716492
>>13716460
Usually when they test the liquid they find it isn't blood.

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Anonymous 2013-11-15 09:16:21 No.13716504
>>13716492
Wow, didn't know that.

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Anonymous 2013-11-15 14:34:40 No.13717011
>>13716489
But what about the woman on the picture? Her name is in the image file.

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Anonymous 2013-11-15 14:46:15 No.13717025
>>13717011

IN the picture.

learn2preposition.

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Anonymous 2013-11-16 01:59:05 No.13718497
>>13716492
No kidding? I'm interested in stigmata but don't want to do my own research because the pics make me uncomfortable.







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