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Anonymous 2013-11-18 16:50:36 No.13729448

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I'm an edgy athiest trying to advance form tier 3 to tier 4. What do?

I already believe that every human has the potential for enlightenment and that "interdimensional"(not a big deal, we perceive them that way. Technically heat, the amout of light hitting a material, time, movement... Are all extra dimensions) aliens exist but I don't think that "death is not the end".

U posted threads asking you guys to prove that there is an afterlife/soul before and all I got was
>hurr durr le edgy
>hurr durr grow up
>hurrdurr bible said so
>meditate(good advice and I've been doing vissapanna mediation for a few months now but if anything it made me more skeptic about an afterlife)


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Anonymous 2013-11-18 16:52:30 No.13729458
>>13729448
Also
>inb4 drugs
I did shrooms, acid and DmT plenty of times already.

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 16:57:51 No.13729471
>>13729448
You must experience gnosis.

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 16:58:38 No.13729472
>>13729471
What's that?

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 17:04:29 No.13729492
>>13729448
join an occult order

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 17:17:49 No.13729527
>>13729492
But I don't believe in that shit. Do they accept non-believers and will they show me tangible proof, like summoning a deamon or levitating and shit like that

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Frater K 2013-11-18 17:27:37 No.13729557
>>13729527
>Do they accept non-believers
If you take an initiation, you'll be oathed or obligated. For the first degree in any group, it's kind of an introduction, so it's not like they expect full commitment out of you (usually).
>will they show me tangible proof, like summoning a deamon or levitating and shit like that
Depends on the group; OTO doesn't give one shit about teaching. Martinists, however, give instruction on things like angel evocation. Others are somewhere in between.

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Canada 2013-11-18 17:28:05 No.13729560
Accept that there's a lot of shit you don't know, but also that everything, INCLUDING religion is subjective, no matter how much they try to twist nature to their belief's.

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 17:33:03 No.13729573
>>13729527
well maybe start with the Theosophical Society they have only three rules and have libraries with a good selection of books which anyone can browse

1 .To form a nucleus of the universal brotherhood of humanity without distinction of race, creed, sex, caste, or colour.
2. To encourage the study of comparative religion, philosophy, and science.
3. To investigate the unexplained laws of nature and the powers latent in man.

http://www.theosophical.org/

Else if you up for a bit more in depth study of the mysteries maybe the Rosicrucians, their only prerequisite is "Will you consider with an open mind new ideas regarding yourself and the universe in which you live?"

http://www.rosicrucian.org/home.html

There are lots of orders, if you research them you'll eventually find one you like

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 17:38:15 No.13729586
>>13729557
Which Martinist order do you think is the best or are they pretty much them same? Traditional Martinist Order, Ancient Martinist Order or Ordre Reaux Croix

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 17:39:43 No.13729591
Go exploring and shit OP. Explore your mind, dreams, and your consciousness on drugs. But do all of that sincerely, man. Don't doubt what you're experiencing just try to entertain these ideas for a while, cause putting filters on your mind will not help you get anywhere. Afterwards you can analyze when you're awake or sober or whatever.

Try salvia. That was like going from tier 3 to tier 6 instantly. But look up how to hit it properly before you do it if you wanna really know what all this shit is about. One strong trip of salvia instantly helped me with my 2 year long existential crisis/ depression.

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 17:41:16 No.13729597
>shamanism
>witch
>nothing is banal

eat shit disinfo

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 17:52:33 No.13729629
>>13729591
salvia can't turn you into an alchemist, while you are under the influence you may think you are but to be a real alchemist takes time and study

all entheogens are will only awaken, which you could say is a low level state of enlightenment, true enlightenment takes a lot of work and time

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 17:56:21 No.13729635
>>13729591
Did you read my post. I already meditate and I did all kinds of drugs. I never found the slightest hint of a soul.

I'm probably gonna try to join an occult group like th other anons suggested. Are there any factions in colorado?

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 17:57:45 No.13729641
>>13729629
So... You have to be enlightened to turn stuff into gold? Wtf do alchemists do anyway?

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 18:04:38 No.13729670
>>13729641
his some wiki pasta

Transmutation of lead into gold is presented as an analogy for personal transmutation, purification, and perfection.

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 18:13:29 No.13729706
>>13729635
http://www.theosophical.org/membership/local-groups/western-district

https://sites.google.com/a/amorc.rosicrucian.org/coloradorosicrucians/

http://www.esotericgoldendawn.com/testimonials.htm

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 18:13:51 No.13729707
>>13729448
Interesting. According to the chart, I'm close toTier 6. neat

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 18:14:41 No.13729709
>>13729641
Alchemists are lame white people who misuse terminology they don't understand

Alchemy==chemistry nerds stop being faggots.

OP's steps are completely insane

Get your head checked all of you

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 18:18:53 No.13729722
>>13729709
>Alchemists are lame white people who misuse terminology they don't understand

by that logic you're an alchemist

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 18:19:26 No.13729724
>>13729709
Congratulations! You've reached Level 99 Shilling

faggot

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 18:32:13 No.13729757
>>13729724
Everythign you believe is a sham and you worship false gods and you think everything is a conspiracy so you look over your shoulder and you live in constant fear so you will do nothing with your life and you will die looking over your shoulder for people who aren't there and as you meet your maker before you're judged you'll probably have everything you ever did or believed dissected and you'll see for yourself how gay you were before you're sent back to try again or into the loving embrace of death.

alchemy, shamanism, 'spiritual' drug use, lmao jesus christ you people are sad and weird.

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 18:46:02 No.13729805
>>13729757

>worship false gods

>claim others are immediately insane and fearful

>start going on about death and meeting your maker for not believing in what i believe


>doesn't know what alchemy is

>doesn't know what shamanism is

>doesn't understand spiritual drug use


Why the fuck are on /x/ if you this fucking scared of reality?

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:02:48 No.13729874
>>13729757
What is the real God?

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:04:42 No.13729881
>>13729757
FYI the comma is next to the letter M on the keyboard and the full stop is next to the comma.

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:09:59 No.13729895

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>>13729881
lol autistm

>>13729805
comment too long click here to lol didn't read

>>13729874
YHWH duh

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:12:00 No.13729900
>>13729895
You goyim got trolled hard

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:22:20 No.13729926
>>13729895
How do you know it is YHWH?

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:26:08 No.13729936
op you can only grow to level 4 or gain wizard status by completing 30 years as a virgin. it is the highest achievement of the order.

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:29:51 No.13729939

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>>13729926
i saw some shit

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:33:50 No.13729949

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>>13729939
translation: "I want it to be"

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:35:11 No.13729952
>>13729949
lol no i'd be a pretty happy atheist

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:37:32 No.13729955
>>13729952
>I'm unhappy because of my beliefs
>ignorance is bliss, the truth of yawah is so hard to bear

Are you even trying? You obviously believe it because you want it to be true.

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:39:21 No.13729959

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>>13729949
>Bacon

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:43:21 No.13729973
>>13729955
what point are you even trying to make? no seriously fucking come out with you moron.

i saw some shit that was either a group hallucination induced without drugs or was real and all signs point to the latter, and the signs given point to God.

Sorry about the faggy shmanism and the "everything is a mass conspiracy" shit but it's fake stupid shit you could really only believe on lots of drugs

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:44:40 No.13729976
>>13729973
>i saw some shit that was either a group hallucination induced without drugs or was real and all signs point to the latter, and the signs given point to God.

You're an imbecile.

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:45:46 No.13729981

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>>13729955
might just be a coward who only believes cause they're afraid of Satan

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The cats 2013-11-18 19:45:49 No.13729982
>>13729973
Why is it unsurprising a christian would deny powerful groups of people colluding to decieve the masses?

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:46:16 No.13729985
>>13729973
Not him but hey faggot why don't you tell us about le spooky incident? Oh let me guess you can't say beacuse you took a le forbbiden oath for forbbiden knowledge.

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:47:33 No.13729988
>>13729982
cause Christians can't deal with the fact their religion was created by groups like that to keep them from truth so they are easier to control

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:47:43 No.13729990
>>13729982
there is real evil out there and I guess a broken clock can be right twice a day but pointing at every organized group and going AHHH THATS EVIL is fucking hilarious and crazy sorry dude

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:49:24 No.13729995
>>13729973
What did you see?

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:49:59 No.13729997
OP here, still waiting for an answer. Or some kind of proof.

Not surprisingly this thread turned into a circle jerk of who believes in weirder, imaginary shit.

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:53:29 No.13730001

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>>13729985
>>13729995
le sorry, le forbidden to le talk about le it

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 19:57:39 No.13730015
>>13730001
how convenient, lying faggot

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Anonymous 2013-11-18 21:02:20 No.13730195
>>13729629
Never claimed I was an actual alchemist, didn't think people would take OP's picture as literal. It's more about states of mind than actually sitting down and trying some queer ritual or whatever IMHO. OP just wants to overcome his atheism not become an internet wizard.

>>13729635
You mentioned LSD, DMT, shrooms, and acid. So that's why I said to try salvia because it was left out of your explorations. But if you wanna join a group rather than figure it out on your own then go for it.

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Anonymous 2013-11-19 05:26:41 No.13731767
>>13729757
shh... pay your taxes

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Anonymous 2013-11-19 05:42:46 No.13731795
All you need is will, an objective, patience and focus. The universe will handle the rest, try not to get in God's way on your way to becoming one.
Trust the fucking process, there aren't shortcuts, only necessary steps.

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Anonymous 2013-11-19 05:56:42 No.13731824
I'm an edgy athiest trying to advance form tier 3 to tier 4. What do?

Continue in your exercises to increase self awareness.

Everyone's path is unique, trust yourself and whatever else you'd prefer.

Do as you will

Possible evidence death is not the end (take it as you will):

http://www.victorzammit.com/

I personally prefer to believe the human personality lives on after death. A sort of transformation in light of the situation would take place though, like how someone might act different after an intense DMT trip. A change in personality would occur but the personality would live on.

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Anonymous 2013-11-19 18:45:03 No.13733607
Bump

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Anonymous 2013-11-19 18:49:38 No.13733624

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Anonymous 2013-11-19 18:52:41 No.13733634

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>>13733607

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Anonymous 2013-11-19 19:19:57 No.13733752
tier 5 here.

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Anonymous 2013-11-19 19:50:54 No.13733858
Tier 7 reporting in. It's overrated.







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