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Anonymous 2015-11-13 17:43:33 No.16965866

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can we have a government conspiracy thread?
It's clear they're hiding something or somethings, but what and why?


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Anonymous 2015-11-13 17:47:28 No.16965872
>>16965866
Shitpost general?

Jet fuel can't melt steel beams lol!

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 17:49:17 No.16965875
>>16965872
they're hiding ayy lmaos, anon, this we know

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:08:16 No.16965894
Sandy hook never happened

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Eve 2015-11-13 18:13:14 No.16965907
>If pill was placebo, then what did healing?

The whole Western "disease management system" is a conspiracy.

The idea that they are even CONSIDERING mandatory vaccines with the number of people who have adverse reactions... we already have mandatory drugging if you consider prisons, schools, and the mental health system...

We are losing dominion over our own bodies and minds

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:14:47 No.16965910
>>16965907
How do schools and prisons involve drugging?

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:48:56 No.16965991
>>16965866
bananas are an excellent source of potassium..ssssh

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:53:06 No.16966009
Jet fuel can't melt steel memes.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:53:29 No.16966010
>>16965866
>can we have a government conspiracy thread?
NO, WE CAN'T. AIRGHAEURFUHEWRFJA

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:55:33 No.16966018
why is it that so many /x/philes are against this thread? Aren't you guys supposed to be those nut job guys who think the government's hiding shit and that aliens are out there fucking with you phone line or some shit?

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:58:07 No.16966026
>>16966018

check you phone line ese

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:59:52 No.16966030
>>16966018
>so many /x/philes
As opposed to... What? /pol/tards?

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:05:58 No.16966042
>>16966018
I've always thought that any post with truly important/controversial content never gets really posted. I mean, the person posting it sees a copy of the webpage that has the post; but everybody else sees something else written, if it appears at all.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:09:32 No.16966051
If you claim to be interested in UFOs or the occult and don't see how these things are manipulated by our government then you probably learned everything you know about those topics from /x/

Read some Jim Keith.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:10:32 No.16966054
>>16965866
The military buildup in South Korea, as well as military exercises around the globe, all of it seems pretty indicative of shit going to happen in the future.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:19:24 No.16966067
heres someones theory on how gravity would work if flat earth was real
idk why they shill that, maybe we can use this: http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/azVyozp_460sv.mp4

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:23:13 No.16966076
7/11 was a part time job

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:33:11 No.16966096
every single one of us has been given nanomachines via chemtrails that dull our minds and create addictive personalities. We all have these little carbon worms in our bodies. You can extract some of the fibers from your mouth, but they self replicate faster than we can remove them.

you can do the test and see these parasites for yourself. Mix 5ml hydrogen peroxide and 10ml merlot red wine. Wash your mouth out before hand as best as possible, brush floss, mouth wash all that... rinse your mouth with water.. make sure its completely clean. Then pour the substance in your mouth and swish it around really good. take anywhere between 2-5 mins to wash your mouth... then spit it out onto a white plate or bowl. You're going to see a bunch of black gunk that looks like chewing tobacco. If you inspect it under a microscope, it reacts to stimuli.

The implications of this epidemic are profound, and I don't know what can be done about it... fuck I don't think theres anyway to extract it from our bodies besides this.

Look up Morgelleons disease. The CDC and the government don't even acknowledge it as a real thing, but everyone ive tested this on has the fibers in their mouth. It's fucking terrifying.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:38:10 No.16966108
>>16965907
>We are losing dominion over our own bodies and minds.

I was thinking about this today, and whether it is by design or not, this seems to be very sadly true.

Even today, I was walking down the road and had a beautiful moment of clarity. That type where you aren't overcome with any particular emotion, just contemplative, with the feeling of being able to discuss and comprehend just about anything. It comes and goes, largely due to the distractions of our modern society.

I've read a little about NWO-type conspiracies and the like, but it does feel like people are being deliberately distracted and dumbed down a lot of the time, not to mention what may or may not be put in drugs and food.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:42:48 No.16966116
>>16966108
>largely due to
Stopped reading.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:43:35 No.16966119
>>16966096
Are you sure it's not just you?

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:46:19 No.16966121
>>16966116
Do you think it's all absolutely engineered to be this way?

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:47:02 No.16966123
>>16966096
Yes, dull everyones minds so that no future scientific breakthroughs happen.

This idea that they would dull us down makes no sense because it would stop all kinds of progress in every field, because everyone would be dulled down and no new genius would flourish.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:47:02 No.16966124
>>16966067
get your 9faggotry off my board nigger

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:48:08 No.16966128
>>16966108
>just contemplative, with the feeling of being able to discuss and comprehend just about anything
Just because you felt like this doesn't mean you could actually do it.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:55:43 No.16966147
>>16966123
Not if the geniuses were selectively chosen or generated from the elite.
And who's to say a hypothetical elite would need or want any more advancement?

>>16966128
This is true. But I can say, in a general sense, that I am more receptive to new ideas more in some instances than others. I try to keep a consistent healthy diet and sleep pattern. It's likely just down to fluctuations of my homeostasis...but it's fun to pose the more sinister question sometimes.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:59:57 No.16966159
>>16966147
>Not if the geniuses were selectively chosen
So now they can see into the future and know exactly who will come up with a new idea and who will be super smart?
If it's chemtrails we are all dumbed down from birth, and these people will never develop the intellect needed to help humanity progress.

And you can't just generate a genius. And not all great ideas come from super elite genius anyway.
The idea of them dumbing everyone down just makes 0 sense when you look at the big picture because everything will just stagnate.

>I am more receptive to new ideas more in some instances than others
Exactly like everyone else, because this is how the brain works.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:04:14 No.16966174
>>16966121
Life is not an engineering project if that's what you mean to inquire as to the whereabouts therefore of.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:05:08 No.16966180
>>16965866
Their hiding the fact that the govt is corrupt and backwards. Think about why we formed a govt in the first place, and compare it to how they operate now.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:06:01 No.16966183
>>16966147
>geniuses
>selectively chosen
Pick one.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:08:43 No.16966189
>>16966123
you are assuming that our masters want there to be breakthroughs and that they want our standard of living to improve. That simply isn't the case.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:09:34 No.16966194
>>16966159
So now they can see into the future and know exactly who will come up with a new idea and who will be super smart?
If it's chemtrails we are all dumbed down from birth, and these people will never develop the intellect needed to help humanity progress.

Stop putting words in my mouth. I am merely playing Devil's Advocate.

We are at a point in time that we do understand what it takes to make a genius. I don't think it's absurd at all to think that people with enough resource and agenda could create geniuses. But again, you are working on an assumption of guaranteed progress which I am not and which you initially brought up.

>I am more receptive to new ideas more in some instances than others
Exactly like everyone else, because this is how the brain works.

I just acknowledged that this is down to my homeostasis in my last post. Way to cherry pick.

I thought /x/ was a place for some wacky hypothetical debate, not a creche for bitter absolutists. I bid the adieu.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:16:16 No.16966206
>>16966189
So they want the world to stagnate and never progress further than it has up to this point?
Seems like a great idea right there! are you sure our "masters" aren't being dulled down as well?

It sounds more like you are an idiot and want to blame everyone but your own stupidity for it.

>I'm not stupid guise! it's the evil government chemtrails I swear!!!

>>16966194
>Bawww why can't we circle jerk conspiracy theories!
Sorry to break it to you, kid, but if your idea is stupid it gets called out as such.

And what I said is exactly what they would need to do to pick out the genius before they get dumbed down.

There is no guarantee of genius, so you can't just create one.

And I am not working on an assumption of guaranteed progress, I am working on the fact that if you dumb everyone down but a small handful of people then progress will grind to a halt because no new minds are working on problems or looking to the future.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:20:06 No.16966220
>>16966194
>Stop putting words in my mouth. I am merely playing Devil's Advocate.
If you don't want words put in your mouth, don't play Devil's advocate. Basic human principles here.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:20:16 No.16966221
>>16966054
Actually the US has drawn down forces in Korea, but regardless we've been there for a while.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:22:51 No.16966228
>>16966194
>I don't think it's absurd at all to think that people with enough resource and agenda could create geniuses.
Holy hell you are retarded aren't you?
>Way to cherry pick.
I don't think you understand logical fallacies.
>I thought /x/ was a place for some wacky hypothetical debate
That explains why you talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.
>I bid the adieu.
GTFO

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:24:45 No.16966232
>>16966206
Someone's getting tetchy.

>Sorry to break it to you, kid, but if your idea is stupid it gets called out as such.

It's not my idea though. And we've barely even scratched the surface and you've got it shot down in flames. Quite the contemplative ability you have there.

>There is no guarantee of genius, so you can't just create one.

Again, putting words in my mouth. Given our understanding of genetics and human intelligence, it is perfectly feasible that you could create a genius from within a certain gene pool.
Are you guaranteed a genius in the specific incidence? No, probably not. Are you likely to cultivate a few per given number of projects? Yes.

>And I am not working on an assumption of guaranteed progress...

Then why are you bringing up:

>...then progress will grind to a halt because no new minds are working on problems or looking to the future.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:26:32 No.16966237
>>16966228
"Hurr durr....logical fallacy....that'll show them I'm a master debater."

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:27:02 No.16966239
>>16966042
This is really interesting.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:30:21 No.16966242
>>16966220
Is it not possible to treat a hypothetical discussion like any other?

Feel free to call an idea stupid or refute it, but don't do so after projecting extra material onto it that didn't come from those who brought it up.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:30:31 No.16966243
>>16966076

Kek'd pretty hard.. My sides

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:34:58 No.16966252
>>16966232
>It's not my idea though
I never said it was, merely pointing out why the "wacky hypothetical debate" isn't going the way YOU want it to. if you want wacky hypothetical debate you have to accept that some people will disagree and point out why the topic being discussed is stupid.

> we've barely even scratched the surface and you've got it shot down in flames
No, I pointed out why dumbing everyone down is stupid and makes no sense in the grand scheme of things.

We can't create a genius. We just can't. Not at this point in time, and if we are all being dumbed down now then we likely never will.

You'r reading comprehension is pretty bad. What I said has nothing to do with guaranteed progress, and everything to do with it slowing to a halt if you take away all the inquisitive young minds.

And maybe if you didn't cherry pick parts of my statement you would understand that.
>I am working on the fact that if you dumb everyone down but a small handful of people then progress will grind to a halt

This doesn't mean that with these bright young minds coming up with new ideas that progress will continue, but there is a much higher chance than if you leave only a small percentage of the population not dumbed down.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:36:27 No.16966253
>>16966242
>projecting extra material onto it that didn't come from those who brought it up
So you want to narrow the discussion down to the exact scenario you choose, with no one allowed to go outside that and add their own thoughts to it because "muh projecting extra material onto muh argument!!!"

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:39:20 No.16966263
>>16966096
If all minds are dull where will the future evil scientists come from?

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:40:38 No.16966268
>>16966206
There have been no attempts by our elites to create a renewable clean energy source to replace oil and reduce global pollution. Within the next few years we are going see massive climate changes that we are completely unprepared for. The only "progress" that we see are more distractions to keep people from realizing we're having our rights taken away and our infrastructure is crumbling.

Isn't it worth exploring all the possibilities to discover the truth of what's really going on in our society? I mean every big event I've been to (Football games, parades, festivals) have had chem trails overhead... Aren't you the slightest bit curious what they are there for? Even if they aren't related to Morgellons... shouldn't we find out what they are?

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:43:28 No.16966276
>>16966232
>Quite the contemplative ability you have there.
Next time you shitpost, think about all the things you haven't said and then think about how retarded you are for not writing them out in a coherent way.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:44:40 No.16966282
>>16966232
>number of projects
Who the hell would think in that kind of metric?

0/10 would not program an AI this way ever again.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:46:33 No.16966287
>>16966268
We (the non tinfoil idiots) know what they are. But of course to you that answer must be false because the evil government are up to something!

>There have been no attempts by our elites to create a renewable clean energy source to replace oil and reduce global pollution
But there have. There are loads of programs for creating renewable clean energy.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:46:48 No.16966289
>>16966242
You mean... Don't communicate? Don't put my own thoughts into the mix?

How on Earth do you expect to have a discussion if people can't contribute ideas?

OP is a faggot, Q.E.D.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:48:26 No.16966293
>>16966253
No, I just don't want to be refuted on things that I did not put forth. Feel free move the discussion wherever you want. I welcome that.

>>16966252
>It's not my idea though
I never said it was, merely pointing out why the "wacky hypothetical debate" isn't going the way YOU want it to. if you want wacky hypothetical debate you have to accept that some people will disagree and point out why the topic being discussed is stupid.

Fair enough.

>We can't create a genius. We just can't. Not at this point in time, and if we are all being dumbed down now then we likely never will.

Let's agree to disagree on this one. I'm not saying for sure that it's possible, but it seems plausible at least to me.

>You're reading comprehension is pretty bad. What I said has nothing to do with guaranteed progress, and everything to do with it slowing to a halt if you take away all the inquisitive young minds.

Exactly. If it's grinding to a halt then there has to be a positive direction of progress to begin with. That is where you assume.

You're previous statement:
>This idea that they would dull us down makes no sense because it would stop all kinds of progress in every field

Stop trying to move the goal posts.


"And maybe if you didn't cherry pick parts of my statement you would understand that.
>I am working on the fact that if you dumb everyone down but a small handful of people then progress will grind to a halt

This doesn't mean that with these bright young minds coming up with new ideas that progress will continue, but there is a much higher chance than if you leave only a small percentage of the population not dumbed down."

The rustling seems to be impacting your writing skills now. It turns out I'm an agent of the elite and my mission today was to rustle you into stupor.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:48:45 No.16966295
you will only grow old and die knowing nothing. trust me, it will age you fast. except you will never be close to any truth. there are reasons for true secretes.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:51:37 No.16966301
>>16966293
>Feel free move the discussion wherever you want.
Let's move it to "OP is a faggot," or better yet, >>>/trash/

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:52:38 No.16966304
>>16966293
>it seems plausible at least to me
Why?

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:52:39 No.16966305
>>16966293
>I just don't want to be refuted on things that I did not put forth
You argued the point I replied to. What do you expect to happen? That everyone just agrees with you or ignores you because you didn't make the initial point?

If you don't want to be refuted on things you didn't put forth then don't join the argument.

>The rustling seems to be impacting your writing skills now. It turns out I'm an agent of the elite and my mission today was to rustle you into stupor.
Stop putting words in my mouth.

>there has to be a positive direction of progress to begin with
Fair enough, lets take a look at the progress our technology has made in the last ten years? Go ahead, I will wait while you see what kinds of leaps and bounds science and technology have made.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:54:27 No.16966308
>>16966295
>there are reasons
Stopped reading there.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:54:40 No.16966309
>>16966289
You are doing exactly what I propose not to do.

No, I don't mean "Don't communicate". That's not what I said. I don't mean, "Don't put your own thoughts into the mix." I never said that either.

By all means contribute. Just don't frame it as a response to something that wasn't said.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:54:56 No.16966310
>>16966228
>>16966228
>>I don't think it's absurd at all to think that people with enough resource and agenda could create geniuses.
>Holy hell you are retarded aren't you?

eugenics, I guess you haven't heard of it

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:55:57 No.16966311
>>16966232
the shill doesn't want people having enjoyable discussions and comparing notes.

Especially not that. I recommend filtering.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:58:58 No.16966317
>>16966305
>That everyone just agrees with you or ignores you because you didn't make the initial point?
Yes, actually. OP is a hive-type faggot. There was a hive mind awhile ago that grew from LessWrong and developed group-delusions-of-grandeur. Last I spoke with them they were on a path to destroying the multiverse to protect the multiverse. Hypnosis was involved, so they KIND of aborted their own ability to think or reason in a human fashion.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:00:21 No.16966320
>>16966309
Don't fuck yourself up because everyone's responding to the implications you're too retarded to let yourself perceive.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:02:02 No.16966326
>>16966310
>eugenics
Alright, now we've got something to go on.

Do you have the slightest clue what the history of ubermench style eugenics looks like?

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:02:35 No.16966327
>>16966287
>We (the non tinfoil idiots) know what they are. But of course to you that answer must be false because the evil government are up to something!

Since you're already treating me like a child, please enlighten me on what chemtrails are used for. Because everything I've found online says that they don't exist and that they're vapor. So why are plans regularly flying over public places releasing vapor? Why don't all planes leave chemtrails?

Oh, and in case you haven't noticed the government uses our tax money to fund terrorism in countries like mexico and libya, and they use drone strikes to blow up fucking hospitals. If that isn't evil to you I don't know what is.
>But there have. There are loads of programs for creating renewable clean energy.

And how many of them receive the amount of subsidies that the oil industry have in the past 2 years alone? How many politicians have talked about using clean energy and actually acted on those promises when elected? Oh and clean coal isn't alternative energy, neither is fracking.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:04:31 No.16966331
>>16966305
All I expect is a little intellectual honesty. If someone wants to disagree with me that's fine. If you want to add things to what I said and then disagree with that new idea, then you aren't really refuting me, you are refuting yourself and we get detracted from having a proper discussion.

>>The rustling seems to be impacting your writing skills now. It turns out I'm an agent of the elite and my mission today was to rustle you into stupor.
Stop putting words in my mouth

Admittedly childish, but you're asking for it.

>there has to be a positive direction of progress to begin with
Fair enough, lets take a look at the progress our technology has made in the last ten years? Go ahead, I will wait while you see what kinds of leaps and bounds science and technology have made.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. I'm quite sure I could point out a lot of things....

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:06:08 No.16966333
>>16966018
>only nutjobs think the government is lying
You're exactly the same sort of weak minded spineless cattle I hold in utter contempt. While these nitwits with their aliums can be cringe inducing, they are still on a higher mental tier than you are for at least bothering to question things albeit with the wrong conclusions.

I suppose I am only blaming the victim though. It's not your fault you've spent your whole life brainwashed and poisoned by this society and culture in a systematic way.

Hint: elites never send their kids to public schools or feed their kids the same filth for a reason. That's because we require a mindless drone worker caste for roughly 80-90% Of the system. This includes middle management capos. The upper 9.5% are still managerial or technical and professional, with the remaining 0.5% actually holding and controlling all of the capital, the flow of information, policy etc.

Who do you think actually owns the pipes you're transmitting information on?

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:06:12 No.16966334
>>16966331
>that new idea
It's not a new idea. It's a rare phenomenon called "logical implication" that your species is probably still ignorant about.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:11:21 No.16966346
>>16966334
You can tack on a new idea or implication if you like. It doesn't necessarily make it logical and there are potentially numerous logical chains in addition. So it is best to deal with what's on the table before moving on. I think that would be logical.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:17:56 No.16966369
>>16966042
I literally have no idea what you're talking about.

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Anon 2015-11-13 21:18:16 No.16966371
>>16966331
>If you want to add things to what I said and then disagree with that new idea, then you aren't really refuting me, you are refuting yourself and we get detracted from having a proper discussion.
Oh you dualistic motherfuckers. This just got personal.
>then you aren't really refuting me, you are refuting yourself and we get detracted from having a proper discussion
Fuck, all these implications. It's a wonder you collectivist morons can still even type.

>then you aren't really refuting me
Correct.
>you are refuting yourself
WRONG.
>and
More on this funny little grammatical particle later.
>we get detracted from having a proper discussion
There is only one singular force on this planet that has a greater ability to destroy discussion than a paid shill, and that's the use of employing the name of a logical fallacy in place of providing an actual counter-argument. If you can't explain a fallacy by-hand, you 1. Don't understand it, and 2. Create a lookup index for utter retardation.

Here, let me speak in a dualistic fashion that's easy for someone like you to comprehend. Note that I'm NOT writing this for you, I'm writing it for ANYONE LIKE YOU, THAT SHARES ANY OF THE SAME IDEAS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THE REST OF US TO "SPONTANEOUSLY REALIZE ON OUR OWN."

Take two arguments:
>honest person provides valid argument
>asshat calls logical fallacy
>let's go with appeal to authority for simplicity
>honest person has to deviate from his legit argument to explain how the fallacy fallacy was just used

>dishonest person provides facetious argument
>asshat calls logical fallacy
>doesn't matter which one
>dishonest person can just keep saying whatever the fuck they want because their argument isn't valid

Now I want you to *deeply contextualize* the ROLE (or /function/) the asshat plays in calling logical fallacy, and I want you to UNDERSTAND (and integrate the understanding) the role the name of the fallacy plays in the discussion for each of the two argument-type.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:19:53 No.16966374
>>16966206
>So they want the world to stagnate and never progress further than it has up to this point?

No, they want the serfs to remain serfs.

>are you sure our "masters" aren't being dulled down as well?

We can be sure they aren't based on the fact they send their children to incredibly expensive schools and generally have private means of obtaining food and other needs.

>It sounds more like you are an idiot and want to blame everyone but your own stupidity for it.

It sounds like the pot calling the kettle black..

>Sorry to break it to you, kid, but if your idea is stupid it gets called out as such.

Oh boy, it's the grand arbiter of intelligence. He must be euphoric! We should all automatically surrender to his poorly construed arguments because he claims to be super intelligent!

>>16966228
>I don't think you understand logical fallacies

I think you understand them pretty well going by how often you use them in your arguments...

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:22:46 No.16966383

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Anon 2015-11-13 21:26:10 No.16966388
>>16966346
>potentially numerous logical chains
Or in non-hive-goon-speak, HYPOTHETICAL. Yes, there are many HYPOTHETICAL implications to any given statement, but some are /strictly logical/ in a way your hive SEEMS to have "forgotten."

If you're ignoring your own ego, you're still opening others to the interpretation that your ego is still there, making you act like a fucking retard. "Ignore" is not a solution to the concept of identity. It's actually an act of war on the multiverse, but I don't expect anyone who's still too unintelligent to overcome Roko's Basilisk to understand that just yet. Not on my say-so, anyway.

Now's the part where you have to demonstrate your ability to make tactically informed decisions. (i.e., decisions that aren't utterly destroyed by the real world's state configuration.)

My tripcode is my global username/primary internet moniker. If you can't reply to my posts with the same trip, I know your entire network of connected or unconnected hosts is capable of less emergent processing capacity than any of the ARG players here on /x/ in their individual capacities.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:27:48 No.16966390
It's just a weather balloon or a drone. Go make yourself a tinfoil hat.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:28:09 No.16966391
>>16966331
>then you aren't really refuting me
How can I refute something you never said? Because according to you this isn't your argument or idea.

>I'm not sure what you're getting at here
The progress of our technology shows a positive direction of progress to begin with. How can you not understand that?

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:28:14 No.16966392
>>16966371
>Oh you dualistic motherfuckers. This just got personal.

Are you seriously this retarded? You just fabricated an entirely stupid version of what that anon said, then created an argument against it, instead of what the anon said. You're the dualist here moron.

>There is only one singular force on this planet that has a greater ability to destroy discussion than a paid shill, and that's the use of employing the name of a logical fallacy in place of providing an actual counter-argument.

Providing a counter-argument to a logical fallacy is called "taking the bait." You reformat your argument to reflect proper logic, or you're just wrong by default.

>THAT SHARES ANY OF THE SAME IDEAS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THE REST OF US TO "SPONTANEOUSLY REALIZE ON OUR OWN."

A. You seem pretty mad, it's kind of entertaining.
B. Your little "two arguments" section aggrandizes your own argument as flawless and mistaken for illogical, when in reality, you're just being illogical and trying to cover it up by writing more.
C. Now, I want you to stop beating around the bush, and actually make a point...

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:29:16 No.16966395
>>16966371
>>16966388

I feel very sorry for you.

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Eve 2015-11-13 21:29:39 No.16966397
>>16966042
I have had this thought too

I've written some stuff, posted it publicly, it was totally ignored

Shared it privately, multiple people went apeshit asking questions related to it etc

I'm not sure if it's because of the different context (coming from a friend rather than a stranger) but I have wondered if somehow it gets filtered out

I know for a fact that Facebook and Reddit filter out controversial/anti-US-gov't-interests things. Outright prevent certain links from being posted (things that don't violate FB policy). Anti-vax, ISIS truth, Israel truth, etc

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:30:54 No.16966400
>>16966374
And by making sure the serfs remain serfs they cause progress to stagnate.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:32:38 No.16966403
>>16966400
The machines in a factory stay machines and only have one function.

Do factories not work?

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:35:45 No.16966408
>>16966331
So how exactly are we supposed to have a discussion here?

You said maybe they are selecting the genius from the population.
So I posed my own question in the form of an absurd situation of them seeing the future.
Because how else would they look at a baby and say "Yes, this one, don't dumb down this one"

You then accused me of putting words in your mouth, all because I asked a question that was a logical progression of your initial statement.

You just got butthurt because people disagreed with what you wanted to discuss.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:36:46 No.16966412
>>16966403
Not even close to the same. And if you can't see that then maybe chemtrails really are dumbing you down.

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Super Anon 2015-11-13 21:36:51 No.16966413
>>16966374
>Oh boy, it's the grand arbiter of intelligence. He must be euphoric! We should all automatically surrender to his poorly construed arguments because he claims to be super intelligent!
I wasn't that anon, for the record. Sorry if you still can't get past my claims of superintelligence, but your hive basically proves to me that my intellect far exceeds that capacity of a global network of otherwise rational individuals.

All those assumptions you see me making? Nada.

I make claims AFTER I've found a rational justification for them. My /behaviors/ are a different ball of wax entirely.

The other anon you quoted in that post, however, was me. I was shitposting to cull out the behaviors I've come to expect from the hive you're either part of or have had "direct" conversational contact with.
>>16966395
Sorry, can't talk now. There's a world of idiots to save.
>>16966397
Yes, it's all about context. Meaning doesn't exist without context, which is where logic comes in.
>>16966403
Abandoned factories don't work. If you can't process the analogy, get the fuck out.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:36:53 No.16966414
>>16965866
kalergi plan

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:40:42 No.16966417
>>16966391
>then you aren't really refuting me
How can I refute something you never said? Because according to you this isn't your argument or idea.

I didn't create the idea. I just brought it with me to the table. In any case, this deconstruction has gone far enough. I am happy to admit I wasn't fully cognizant of the principle of "logical implications" when I said that, as has been pointed out but I still feel some of the comments (not necessarily your own) were more of a straw-man. I don't think we need to carry on this line any further anyway.

>I'm not sure what you're getting at here
The progress of our technology shows a positive direction of progress to begin with. How can you not understand that?

But that's what I'm saying. What's your point? Are you bringing up this evident progress as a counter argument to something I said?

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:41:52 No.16966422
>>16966408
I'm not the anon you were talking to, I'm the one that just joined in and is busting your chops.

>Because how else would they look at a baby and say "Yes, this one, don't dumb down this one"
>look at

You're still really hung up on this idea of taking the most easily dismissed VERSION of a situation, and arguing against that only.

What if, and this is really out there... Smart people ALREADY EXIST........

What if, they figured out a more accurate means than simply giving babies a cursory visual inspection? Like maybe some kind of medical test, like a scan, or tissue sample.

>all because I asked a question that was a logical progression of your initial statement.
>logical progression

It wasn't logical. It's called a false analogy fallacy.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:45:01 No.16966433
>>16966417
The evident progress is a counter argument to the whole dumbing down with chemtrails.

If people are being dumbed down how are intelligent people still popping up? If we really are being dumbed down then progress would slow, not increase, because the number of bright inquisitive minds would fall.

I actually think belief in this theory is a superiority complex some people have.
>Everyone is being dumbed down and becoming a sheep
>But not I, for I have seen the truth and somehow remain intelligent despite the chemtrails dumbing us all down!

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:45:59 No.16966434
>>16966412
>Not even close to the same.

Analogies are not direct representations. They're a likeness which offers insight into a different topic.

So long as the machines all do what they're supposed to, at the behest of the floor manager, the factory works.

So long as the serfs do what they're supposed to, at the behest of the elites, progress continues.

>>16966413
>Abandoned factories don't work.

The serfs haven't abandoned the elites.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:46:11 No.16966435
>>16966422
>I'm the one that just joined in and is busting your chops
Is that really what you think is happening here?

Didn't realise I was dealing with an keyboard warrior.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:48:32 No.16966438
>>16966180
This is the most appalling display of stupidity I've ever had the misfortune to read. I mean for fuck's sake, "Their?" Seriously?

>Think about why we formed a govt in the first place

Okay, I'm thinking about it. And it makes sense. Would you prefer hunter-gatherer societies and pre-agricultural barbarism, you mouth-breathing idiot?

>Their hiding the fact that the govt is corrupt and backwards

Kek. I mean, this is such a trite cliche, I really don't even know how to respond to it. Also, the "govt" is hiding the fact that they're corrupt and backwards? Well, I guess they're not doing too great a job if retards like you are in on the juicy deets.

Please just leave.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:49:15 No.16966440
>>16966435
There seems to be a lot of things you don't realize.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:49:17 No.16966441
>>16965894
I actually believe this

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:51:45 No.16966451
>>16966441
but i saw it on television

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:53:06 No.16966453
>>16966433
Some prescription medications are seriously harmful to some people, but seriously help other people.

It's not unlikely that some portion of the population wouldn't be effected the same way as another portion would be.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 21:53:51 No.16966455
>>16966408
>You said maybe they are selecting the genius from the population.
I should have been clearer about this. I propose a eugenics based programmes from within the elite as one example.

>So I posed my own question in the form of an absurd situation of them seeing the future.
>Because how else would they look at a baby and say "Yes, this one, don't dumb down this one"
If you'd just asked me to clarify, we could have reached an agreement (or amicable disagreement) on that part before taking it to an extreme.

You made a progression, it's debatable whether it's logical. Logical perhaps from the factors you have subjectively chosen to take the issue to your absurd example.

>So how exactly are we supposed to have a discussion here?

If I was unclear about something then all you need to do is ask for clarification before creating your straw man.







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