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Anonymous 2015-11-13 14:44:14 No.16965526

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>found out a few days ago that there's an actual cult of Cthulhu
>like, not just people LARPing or having a giggle or fucking with census data, an actual cult who actually believe Lovecraft's works are prophetic and pray for the rise of a dormant god from another dimension to usher in an era of chaos and darkness
>mfw there's a chapter in my town

Anyone want to tell me what the fuck this shits about? There is almost zero information on the Internet besides a general overview of their beliefs


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Anonymous 2015-11-13 15:09:05 No.16965580
Retardation, anon. Clearly that shit isnt real

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 15:18:41 No.16965620
>mfw seein all these heretics who are not part of Jedi Church

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 16:10:03 No.16965734
OP says he lives near "an actual cult of Cthulhu" wants /x/ to tell him about them because he is too much of a wuss to walk up to them and ask what's going on.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 16:14:10 No.16965744
>>16965734

They don't give out info unless you want to join

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 16:17:29 No.16965750
>>16965744

You didn't even try.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 16:19:49 No.16965755
>Be a /tg/fag
>Go to a /tg/ trade show held in my city every year
>Expect to see fun, new, innovative games
>HAY GUYS YOU KNOW WHAT'S COOL AND INTERESTING? CTHULU!
>BUY CTHULU WARS
>BUY CTHULU DICE
>BUY CTHULU CARD GAME
>YOU WANT CTHULU ROLE PLAYING? GURPS? D20? SR? WE HAVE IT ALL!
>HERE'S A GAME WHERE YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS PLAY CUTE CTHULUS DRIVING AROUND A TRACK
>LOOK AT OUR CTHULU MASCOT COSTUME FURSUIT
>About 10% is anything with a new setting or a new concept
>The rest is zombies
>Now I find out people are so invested they think this mediocre Lovecraft schlock is legitimate

Apocalypse when

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 16:31:51 No.16965788
>>16965755
are you me?

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 17:28:04 No.16965850
>>16965526
it's all roleplayers

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 17:47:23 No.16965871
>>16965755
i feel your pain, lovecraft is neat but its becoming the next zombies. cant wait for the moves tho they might be good.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:00:20 No.16965888
Actually, I think Cthulhu was an existing piece of mythology before Lovecraft came along. I'm pretty sure it has existed for a very very long time in a certain pagan subculture, but with it all being so long ago, it's a little difficult for me to figure out which came first. I believe Cthulhu has been a pagan deity of destruction for centuries though.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:01:40 No.16965891
>>16965888

This is such a load of horseshit

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:17:00 No.16965914
>>16965888

No. No he hasn't. I'm pretty sure you're a literal retard.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:20:54 No.16965920
>>16965850

ur a roleplayer

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:24:30 No.16965928
>>16965888
No it wasn't. Stop fucking lying.

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Tomoko 2015-11-13 18:27:43 No.16965938
>>16965755
SOON.

I'm kidding. Actually I think these things started to exist right now because I just re-made my Tumblr:
http://causeofcause.tumblr.com/

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:29:16 No.16965944
>>16965891
>>16965914
>>16965928
fucking fedora, basement dwelling, neckbearded faggots!!!
he said >'I believe'
That shit is personal. He's in no way, shap or form trying to convince you of something.
God, you inbreed retards

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:31:49 No.16965953
>>16965944
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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:33:52 No.16965957
>>16965944

If he "believes" that Cthulhu was a figure in any mythology before Lovecraft, then he's a retard.

Also, he should really watch his potty mouth and try not to get so upset when he's called out for being a retard.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:34:13 No.16965959
>>16965944
Top quality samefagging

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:34:56 No.16965960
>>16965944
He says he thinks something and tried to pass it off as a fact. So fuck off, he is still wrong and lying. There's enough bull shit here we don't need more.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:36:08 No.16965962
>>16965888

What a waste of trips.

Lovecraft wrote into his stories that ancient pagan cultures worshipped Cthulhu but that's about it. There's a theory floating around that Lovecraft loosely derived the R'lyehian language from ancient Sumerian, but there's some debate about that. However, there's no evidence to suggest that any culture worshipped anything called Cthulhu before Lovecraft's works were published.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:39:30 No.16965970
>>16965888
Assuming you're not legitimately retarded, you could be thinking of Dagon.
Lovecraft used him as an old one in a story, but homie was a old fuckin fish god back in the day.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:41:19 No.16965975
>>16965962
Cthulhu is bullshit. He did base shot on Sumerian and other Mesopotamian cultures. But there are legit Dagon worshipers out there. Moloch too.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 18:56:38 No.16966023
>>16965526
Be wary of nautical-looking negroes.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:01:26 No.16966033
>>16965975

Yeah, not many but they're out there. I guess they have a temple in Detroit now too?

Anyway, the stuff I found clearly stated Cthulhu worship. There are a few articles about it, and I guess there's a big "cult" that worships the idea of Cthulhu--in short, while they don't believe there's a giant dude with a tentacle face sitting at the bottom of the ocean waiting to wake up and shit unholy fury over the entire world, they do believe that chaos and entropy are the only constants in the universe, and therefore anything that adheres to and advances those laws is considered praiseworthy. This bigger cult could be interchangeable with many elements of Satanism, which in general views the idea of Satan as more powerful and real than a horned red guy sitting in the pits of hell; some people even go so far as to say that the cult is just Satanism with a Lovecraftian flair to make things entertaining. This cult has maybe a few thousand members worldwide.

Then there's a much smaller cult within this larger cult, composed of hard-liners who believe in (and worship) Cthulhu as an actual god, praying for his return. As you can imagine, there arent many adherents of this latter cult; I think the most generous estimate I've seen is 300.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:04:26 No.16966039
>>16966023

Around Deep Ones, load up your guns

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:10:23 No.16966052
Jedi is now recognized as a religion, and even most Satanists don't literally believe in Satan.

I even found a website eons ago about legitimate, earnest worship towards Mothra, the author claiming that "I believe in my heart that Mothra will arise to destroy mankind one day."

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:12:45 No.16966058
>>16966033

>there are 300 people out there who genuinely believe in and worship a character that is clearly stated as fictional

I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or yawn in utter lack of surprise.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:16:01 No.16966061
>>16966058

Considering how many people there are, that's pretty small all things considered. I mean there are probably more people than that who dress up as Freddy Fazbear in a diaper and sodomize small animals.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:19:30 No.16966068
>>16966052
>tfw you can literally believe whatever you want
>tfw belief has no meaning

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:29:04 No.16966088
>>16966068
No, you can believe what you want, but that doesn't magically make all beliefs equal. Some beliefs are closer to truth than others.

Just like some opinions are shittier than others.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:33:21 No.16966097
>>16966088
What do you call a function that maps structured input to completely random, meaningless output?

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:37:39 No.16966107
>>16966097
The output being our reception of reality, you can't say that it is completely random and meaningless. It's merely small.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:38:27 No.16966109
>>16966097
Artificial intelligence

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:40:40 No.16966114
>>16966109
kek
>>16966107
>The output being
No, the output being meaningless, random "data."

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 19:47:00 No.16966122
>>16966114
>No, the output being meaningless, random "data."
So you mean beliefs. All beliefs are meaningless, and therefore all equal. Is that what you're getting at?

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:01:08 No.16966162
>>16966122
>and therefore all equal
Remove that part.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:04:37 No.16966179
>>16966162
Okay, better. But beliefs have meaning so far as they effect the person who holds the beliefs, and so far that those beliefs effect others, and so far as they effect the greater world. Meaning is subjective.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:09:26 No.16966192
>>16965755
>mediocre Lovecraft
Get out.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:14:14 No.16966203
>>16966179
>Meaning is subjective.
There you go.

This subjectivity means that the meaning generated by the act of belief is, itself, subjective. Tracing backwards through your post and its intended meaning, we instantly see that there are two kinds of beliefs: Those that affect our behaviors and those that can't.

99% of all beliefs are irrelevant to 99% of our behaviors. To use a multiplicative analogy, the Fibonacci series collapses when you seed it with two zeroes. These two zeroes add up to zero to add more zeroes to add to zero, zeroing the entire set of numbers that normally create a convergence on the golden ratio.

Is any of this making sense to you? Because if it doesn't make sense to you, it has no real meaning.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:19:13 No.16966215
>>16966203
I don't think that's quite the best analogy, but I understand you.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:24:08 No.16966229
Cthulu is an actual being, that's why. You know the "bloop" sound that they captured?

Guess who's sleeping.

Even if it woke up, it wouldn't bring a generation of shit all. We would throw a few missile at it and it would be dead for good. It's nothing but an ancient gargantuan squid.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:30:44 No.16966244
>>16966229

youre talking out of your ass.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:37:47 No.16966258
>You know the "bloop" sound that they captured?
>talking out of your ass.

Rather disrespectful way to talk about Cthulhu

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:38:44 No.16966261
>>16966215
Yeah it's a completely unrelated analogy. It's not even a real analogy, it's just random mathematics. I threw it in there because I detected a disjoint sort of thought process on your last post so I sought to set the record straight by running a counter-disjoint psudeo-analogy through your metaphorical belief mind.

Point is, if beliefs don't stem from experiences, they can quite literally be whatever you want them to be. >>16966068
>tfw belief has no meaning
Basically I was saying that both subjectively to me under my unique method of comprehension and in actual reality, belief has no objective meaning.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:43:22 No.16966275
>>16966261
But all beliefs stem from experiences. Everything does. Nobody except the most rarest of Yogins can look at the world completely divorced from their experiences in it.

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Anonymous 2015-11-13 20:44:17 No.16966280
>>16966039

Kek

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Anon 2015-11-13 21:50:59 No.16966445
>>16966275
>But all beliefs stem from experiences. Everything does. Nobody except the most rarest of Yogins can look at the world completely divorced from their experiences in it.
Alright, you're wrong on all three points, and I'mma be nice about it and explain why that is.

>all beliefs
This is an incoherent category, but more than that, it describes EVERY type of belief. That means if I make up a belief in lava monsters guiding the elite ruling class towards victory over the Nebians, it's a valid belief insofar as it is an actual belief I hold.
>stem from experiences
And in that same moment, we can see that beliefs can come from pure imagination. We can make up literally anything we want and cherry-pick reason to believe in it. So no, there are two types of belief that come from wildly different realms of concept.

>Everything does.
Hunger doesn't stem from experience. Fear doesn't stem from experience. Cheese doesn't stem from experience. Your THOUGHTS on the CONCEPTS of hunger, fear, and cheese, come from some manner of experience, but the things on the other side of the boundary of perception are really there beyond your perception of them. Fear, hunger, and cheese exist regardless of anyone's experiences or thoughts about those experiences.

>Nobody except the most rarest of Yogis
This is just plain false. No explanation necessary.







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